**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Aug 10 03:00:02 2017 Aug 10 06:28:04 NeKit : for a start, take a tiny peace of RTCOM framework. Like, smilies. Or HTML for IMs and SMS. Write a detailed documentation for it. And see if a developer shows up to write replacement software, based on documentation. Aug 10 06:31:51 or, wait fmg to hit part of rtcom FW and RE it :) Aug 10 07:58:28 What is exactly in rootfs image and in eMMC. Thinking of making my own flashable image... Aug 10 08:00:06 I mean if I make an rootfs image, that leaves an empty /home/opt, right? Aug 10 08:41:13 yes Aug 10 08:42:06 well, /opt gets populated by optification process on first-boot after flashing rootfs Aug 10 08:42:15 iirc Aug 10 09:00:03 Well that way I could cheat a bit. Place some files in rootfs image that get moved on first-boot Aug 10 09:05:34 CSSU doesn't place files in opt then? If that's all true I could make an image with kp53, cssu-thumb and some keyboard mods. I am however a bit scared what happens if an update is pushed to the repos... Aug 10 09:07:06 Will it be picked up as it's not really installed as package... (The metapackage for the whole system) Aug 10 10:27:19 how can I disable dialer app auto-rotation to portrait by editing config? Aug 10 10:39:19 Phone > Turning Control ? Aug 10 10:41:51 yes, I mean how to edit this without lauching UI Aug 10 10:51:22 NotKit: lemme dig up the gconf for that Aug 10 11:05:40 NotKit: It's not there :/ Wonder where it is stored then... Aug 10 11:07:56 thank you anyway Aug 10 11:11:38 Phone is as closed as it gets... Could it be stored on cal? Aug 10 11:13:04 If you using cssu as base you could blacklist rotation in transitions.ini ;) Aug 10 11:15:16 iirc dialer/phone is a bit different Aug 10 11:22:56 NotKit: https://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools#no_autorotating maybe this is what you want? Aug 10 11:23:59 it says it still allows dialer to switch to portrait Aug 10 11:25:34 it's not ui_can_rotate Aug 10 11:25:51 ohwell, I guess I could just try and diff the gconftool dumps Aug 10 11:27:19 NotKit: looks like it's not stored in gconf Aug 10 11:28:02 fun fact though, keyboard slider status is stored in gconf (and changed everytime slider is opened/closed) Aug 10 11:28:43 maybe look status-area-orientationlock-applet - Hildon Status Menu plugin to control orientation lock. Aug 10 11:29:02 if there is source for it and so on Aug 10 11:35:09 Problem is, like bencoh said, that phone app is bit different. Aug 10 11:39:14 The only other way I know to force it landscape is by blacklisting it Aug 10 11:39:36 rtcom-call-ui Aug 10 11:51:11 wiki.maemo.org/Dialer might give some clues Aug 10 11:52:07 orientation setting Aug 10 11:52:08 stored in key file group_name rotation key orientation. Also file call-portrait-override is related to this. Aug 10 11:54:07 found it ~/.osso/call-ui.ini Aug 10 11:54:11 yeah :) Aug 10 11:55:02 If you read that wiki, it also explains why slide open is in gconf Aug 10 11:55:14 Phone app makes use of it Aug 10 11:55:44 is it cheaper to lookup gconf than the gpio switch? Aug 10 11:56:24 Seems still bit weird to me Aug 10 11:57:48 could you paste ~/.osso/call-ui-ini? Aug 10 12:01:17 aah pastebinit on N900 is too old :/ Aug 10 12:03:55 is python3 really required for pastebinit? Aug 10 12:15:15 hmm project for other time :/ Aug 10 12:15:59 ~/.osso $ cat call-ui.ini Aug 10 12:16:12 Aug 10 12:16:24 [rotation] Aug 10 12:16:35 orientation=2 Aug 10 12:16:46 ~/.osso $ Aug 10 12:17:11 2 = landscape only Aug 10 12:17:30 eh I mean automatic Aug 10 12:17:38 1 = landscape only Aug 10 12:23:07 UI can be displayed now, nice Aug 10 12:25:12 :) Aug 10 12:30:26 Mr_Pingu> is python3 really required for pastebinit? NO :) Aug 10 12:31:38 works with python2.7 Aug 10 12:31:52 should test it with default maemo 2.5 too Aug 10 12:55:14 happy times. Found weather service that actually works on n900. www.yr.no Aug 10 13:02:01 omweather (generic app) still had a working weather service provider back a few months ago as well ... I suppose it still works Aug 10 13:08:53 oh. Didn't try any apps besides foreca app which used to work, but haven't tested it in like two years Aug 10 13:09:36 instead i wanted a working service in browser Aug 10 13:31:06 Used to have weather widget in QBW which was awesome Aug 10 13:31:20 but then yahoo broke it :( Aug 10 15:14:58 omweather WFM Aug 10 15:17:25 I had allsorts of magical QBW widgets years ago... Aug 10 15:18:24 and your battery magically reached 0 by mid day? :) Aug 10 15:21:55 I had them on manual refresh IIRC. I removed loads of stuff when I was trying to diagnose h-d hanging and never reinstalled it. Aug 10 15:27:07 Vajb: Nice site, only can't change language in browser Aug 10 15:28:11 If you only had refresh on click and per 3 hour refresh it was good :) Aug 10 15:28:43 Now I don't have any widgets, and only 1 desktop :P Aug 10 15:29:18 My Desktops where beautiful back then, tho Aug 10 15:29:43 Loved that thread on TMO, show us your maemo5 screenshot Aug 10 15:43:31 Mr_Pingu: i could change lang. I choosed mobile. Then changed nb part of url to en and hit refresh. It whined that page not found. I click the link provided and magically it was english :) Aug 10 15:44:31 Old school TMO Aug 10 15:47:35 btw it would be nice feature on OMP to be able to find exact path of the file. Aug 10 15:51:13 oh and i've been meaning to ask, if it is possible to disable screen rotation just in incoming call? It is annoying since there is a bit lag and caller is waiting while my phone reorientates itself... Aug 10 15:57:32 I believe that's only controlled with phone app settings, I seem to prefer locked to portrait as if keyboard is open it switches landscape anyway. Aug 10 15:59:06 same here Aug 10 15:59:29 hmm let me see. I think last that i try it had no effect. Aug 10 16:53:22 im thinking of ordering usb hhd from aliexpress. Any suggestion of reliable brand? Aug 10 16:53:35 looking for 1tb storage Aug 10 16:53:37 toshiba, samsung Aug 10 16:53:38 ;) Aug 10 16:53:51 but seriously, buy locally Aug 10 16:55:50 hmm maybe i browse stores here also, but mostly prices are like double Aug 10 16:56:09 even second hand hdd would be better than chines noname Aug 10 17:05:26 toshiba 1tb is same price online as sandisk 64gb locally :) Aug 10 17:05:44 you meant ssd? Aug 10 17:05:58 dont even try chinese brands Aug 10 17:06:00 external Aug 10 17:06:15 doesn't have to be ssd Aug 10 17:06:15 they are cheap for a reason Aug 10 17:06:55 just normal 2.5" hdd i can plug in for backup copies Aug 10 17:15:11 KotCzarny: Not everything is bad from china. bought a china powerback, opened it up and it had real panasonic 18650 cells :) Aug 10 17:15:42 yeah, there are some good products Aug 10 17:15:48 but also whole sea of scams Aug 10 17:16:41 Funny thing was, the powerbank was cheaper than just the cells Aug 10 17:16:46 true Aug 10 17:17:35 there are also plain fakes too Aug 10 17:17:46 did you test those cells for capacity? Aug 10 17:18:13 Yep, genuine NCR18650B :) Aug 10 17:19:24 Also bought bunch of usb-cable, they were so bad that all of them died after 5 times of using xD Aug 10 17:20:08 i have bought a lot of electronic accessories and tools, so far so good Aug 10 17:25:30 Reliable HDD companies are the ones I look at, the USB->Sata Controller and Case on them is pretty generic. I have a Verbatim one which I believe have Samsung drives in. Aug 10 17:26:26 when looking for usb ones, it's best to search by chip used, not brand. jms578 is one of the good ones (trim, uasp, etc) Aug 10 17:28:35 toshiba canvio connect 2 is available locally and rather good price imo Aug 10 17:50:04 freemangordon, did you ever see this on Devuan? Aug 10 17:50:06 hd-render-manager.c:3409:46: error: 'HdRenderManagerPrivate {aka struct _HdRenderManagerPrivate}' has no member named 'zoomed'; did you mean 'home'? Aug 10 17:50:06 g_return_if_fail (!render_manager->priv->zoomed); Aug 10 17:50:26 the problem is that struct actually doesn't have member "zoomed" Aug 10 17:50:43 I remember it before and I simply commented out that line Aug 10 19:03:53 NotKit: can't remember seeing such an error Aug 10 19:04:53 could be some remnant from "zoom" patches which were removed iirc Aug 10 19:15:29 what were they for? Aug 10 19:18:14 zooming the desktop Aug 10 19:18:19 again, iirc **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Aug 10 19:21:32 2017 Aug 10 19:21:42 NotKit: see https://github.com/community-ssu/hildon-desktop/commit/3961b5b16d9fda0379a35dbfc5366e173d213e50 Aug 10 19:22:57 and https://github.com/community-ssu/hildon-desktop/commit/c4a8177d5ee36b6a1ee0d02b081a2c14895767aa Aug 10 19:23:21 It could be that I missed some leftovers Aug 10 19:23:42 https://github.com/community-ssu/hildon-desktop/blob/master/src/home/hd-render-manager.c#L3400 Aug 10 19:23:49 this is surely leftover then Aug 10 19:24:04 but I wonder why it compiles finely on other platforms? Aug 10 19:24:30 I guess glibc macros Aug 10 19:24:42 If G_DISABLE_CHECKS is defined then the check is not performed. You should therefore not depend on any side effects of expr . Aug 10 19:24:52 :nod: Aug 10 19:25:38 NotKit: could you please open an issue against h-d, so /me to fix it someday Aug 10 19:26:09 I suspect the whole hd_render_manager_press_effect function is not needed Aug 10 19:26:29 ...or not Aug 10 19:27:06 removing that line is sufficient to let it compile though Aug 10 19:27:56 but there are other unused things, such as ZOOM_INCREMENT Aug 10 19:35:46 you can make pull request as well, I am fine either ways as long as we don;t forget to fix that **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Aug 11 03:00:01 2017