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Aug 12 09:53:31 <Vajb> Mr_Pingu: my box is still building git clone :D 38h and im at 70% building deltas. So don't hold your breath at least yet.
Aug 12 09:55:35 <KotCzarny> vajb: told you to use --depth 1 
Aug 12 09:56:08 <KotCzarny> vajb: a lot fewer items to compare
Aug 12 10:45:58 <Vajb> KotCzarny: well u did, but machine was already on it so :/
Aug 12 10:46:35 <KotCzarny> still, for funsies you can do it in another dir for comparison, once the current clone finishes
Aug 12 10:46:55 <Vajb> btw i set the limits "kernel-config limits 250 250", but conky shows that cpu is at 500Mhz
Aug 12 10:48:03 <Vajb> i know it adds to that, but i thought first that it was lowest and highest frequency
Aug 12 10:49:11 <Vajb> KotCzarny: maybe i give it a go. I think that around 48 hours it should finnish. I should have done it via ssh tho since process completely stalls my pc...
Aug 12 10:49:43 <KotCzarny> what is the command?
Aug 12 10:50:27 <Vajb> look wiki devuan on n900
Aug 12 10:50:32 <Vajb> first command
Aug 12 10:51:05 <KotCzarny> this one?  git --work-tree=../linux-4.10.8 checkout linux-4.10.y -- .
Aug 12 10:51:58 <KotCzarny> ahm no.
Aug 12 10:52:06 <KotCzarny> this? git clone https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-stable.git
Aug 12 10:54:16 <KotCzarny> https://pastebin.com/raw/AvV73u1s
Aug 12 10:54:22 <KotCzarny> took whole 88s
Aug 12 10:54:23 <KotCzarny> ;)
Aug 12 10:55:39 <Vajb> haha
Aug 12 10:55:53 <Vajb> things surely have changed a bit
Aug 12 10:56:02 <KotCzarny> linux has a long history, and without --depth you are checking WHOLE history
Aug 12 10:56:33 <Vajb> so u did it with ur hint setting?
Aug 12 10:56:40 <KotCzarny> see pastebin
Aug 12 10:57:27 <Vajb> yes seems so
Aug 12 10:57:33 <Vajb> 170ish mb
Aug 12 10:59:11 <Maxdamantus> Seems like it shouldn't take 38h though, unless you're running it on an N900 or something.
Aug 12 10:59:31 <KotCzarny> he said 'pc'
Aug 12 10:59:44 <Maxdamantus> Yeah, I noticed.
Aug 12 10:59:54 <KotCzarny> lets see what is the clone size with all history
Aug 12 11:00:11 <Vajb> well it is 1.3ghz athlon tb
Aug 12 11:00:12 <Maxdamantus> It should be 2 GB or so.
Aug 12 11:00:29 <Maxdamantus> or maybe 3
Aug 12 11:00:32 <Vajb> so it is like two n900 connected hehe
Aug 12 11:00:52 <KotCzarny> nah, x86 beats arm performance wise
Aug 12 11:00:54 <KotCzarny> a lot
Aug 12 11:01:19 <KotCzarny> 6mln objects vs 64k objects
Aug 12 11:01:29 <KotCzarny> 100x more
Aug 12 11:02:01 <Vajb> ye
Aug 12 11:02:18 <KotCzarny> for funsies i'm running full command too
Aug 12 11:02:18 <Maxdamantus> That doesn't mean it'll take 100x longer.
Aug 12 11:02:32 <KotCzarny> maxd: checking 6 mln files could take a while
Aug 12 11:02:46 <Maxdamantus> It shouldn't be checking 6 mln files.
Aug 12 11:02:48 <Vajb> well pc has time and i've planned that long time so im not in a rush
Aug 12 11:02:59 <Maxdamantus> It should be checking a couple of pack/idx files.
Aug 12 11:03:10 <KotCzarny> vajb: dont you have that shine new/old thinkpad?
Aug 12 11:03:30 <KotCzarny> *shiny
Aug 12 11:03:37 <Vajb> yup it's my daily machine with win 7
Aug 12 11:03:44 <KotCzarny> run virtualbox on it?
Aug 12 11:03:47 <Vajb> this is just my storage with new devuan os
Aug 12 11:03:49 <KotCzarny> with linux inside
Aug 12 11:03:55 <Maxdamantus> and maybe a couple of hundred or so small objects that have been added since the last gc
Aug 12 11:04:46 <Vajb> i was thinking of running live distro on it, but haven't got that far yet
Aug 12 11:05:02 <KotCzarny> nah, just install normal linux in vbox
Aug 12 11:05:17 <Vajb> well this says it has received 1.24GiB
Aug 12 11:05:18 <KotCzarny> upgrade memory to the max and have some fun
Aug 12 11:05:33 <KotCzarny> i'm doing it on mine
Aug 12 11:05:48 <Vajb> it has 8gb mem. Should be enough?
Aug 12 11:06:00 <KotCzarny> 2 gigs for win7, and 6 for jessie64 for my android builds
Aug 12 11:06:16 <KotCzarny> yeah, 8 is plenty
Aug 12 11:06:35 <KotCzarny> unless you start cloning vms like rabbits ;)
Aug 12 11:06:52 <Vajb> could u provide any recommend "virtualbox for dummies" link?
Aug 12 11:07:03 <KotCzarny> um, it's VERY simple app
Aug 12 11:07:08 <KotCzarny> really, just download and install
Aug 12 11:07:16 <Vajb> ah so it is an app
Aug 12 11:07:31 <KotCzarny> yup, windows style app, clicky clicky
Aug 12 11:10:11 <KotCzarny> fun, that git command eats ~1GB of mem during deltas resolve
Aug 12 11:10:20 <KotCzarny> most likely your pc is swapping like hell
Aug 12 11:12:34 <Maxdamantus> That could explain it.
Aug 12 11:13:23 <KotCzarny> yay, took whole 12:45 minutes
Aug 12 11:13:43 <KotCzarny> https://pastebin.com/raw/4kS0hqng
Aug 12 11:14:05 <Vajb> yes probably. It has like .7Gb of memory...
Aug 12 11:14:13 <KotCzarny> i've cheated a bit by doing it on tmpfs
Aug 12 11:14:24 <Maxdamantus> Which is a lot less than 100× 1:28 minutes
Aug 12 11:14:37 <KotCzarny> but it's similar laptop to yours, t500, 8GB mem, core2duo@2.4ghz
Aug 12 11:14:44 <Vajb> oh well it'll be done before year end :)
Aug 12 11:15:12 <KotCzarny> setup vbox on win7, install debian64, work there ;)
Aug 12 11:15:21 <KotCzarny> give it 6gb of ram for a good measure
Aug 12 11:15:22 <Vajb> hoho mine seems to pack a bit more punch ;)
Aug 12 11:15:31 <KotCzarny> core i5?
Aug 12 11:15:34 <KotCzarny> even better
Aug 12 11:15:44 <Vajb> i5 yes
Aug 12 11:16:00 <Vajb> 2540 i beleive
Aug 12 11:16:01 <KotCzarny> you probably finish faster on it than poor athlon
Aug 12 11:16:30 <Vajb> shame im on a rush so can't get on to it today...
Aug 12 11:17:13 <Vajb> but it is getting all more likely that i'll have to retire him soon. Athlon i mean...
Aug 12 11:17:41 <KotCzarny> yup, even electricity wise that laptop uses fraction of pc watts
Aug 12 11:18:06 <KotCzarny> if you need screen estate connect external monitor
Aug 12 11:18:28 <Vajb> oh yeah that reminds. Are there any power batteries for sale for thinkpads?
Aug 12 11:18:40 <KotCzarny> what's power battery?
Aug 12 11:18:59 <Vajb> the one which had juice for 8h for example
Aug 12 11:19:05 <Vajb> has*
Aug 12 11:19:05 <KotCzarny> hmm
Aug 12 11:19:12 <KotCzarny> is your 8cell or smaller?
Aug 12 11:19:25 <Vajb> i think 8cell
Aug 12 11:19:49 <KotCzarny> is it old? what does thinkpad battery monitor say?
Aug 12 11:21:48 <KotCzarny> though in normal office work laptop uses ~20-25Watt
Aug 12 11:21:57 <KotCzarny> and 8 cell is ~60-70Wh
Aug 12 11:22:46 <KotCzarny> erm. 84Wh
Aug 12 11:23:14 <KotCzarny> 6 cell is ~56Wh
Aug 12 11:24:44 <KotCzarny> i guess you could get some external powerbank for laptops
Aug 12 11:25:35 <Vajb> monitor says it is at good health
Aug 12 11:26:21 <KotCzarny> you can also try finding 30W solar panel ;)
Aug 12 11:26:28 <KotCzarny> 30W@20V
Aug 12 11:26:35 <KotCzarny> but it could be quite big
Aug 12 11:27:20 <KotCzarny> or... just get car accu and some voltage regulator ;)
Aug 12 11:28:26 <KotCzarny> 60Ah@12V means ~720Wh
Aug 12 11:30:06 <KotCzarny> drat
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Aug 12 14:14:35 <Vajb> hah @ solar panel. Would work neatly inside :p
Aug 12 14:15:01 <KotCzarny> how about mobile wind turbine then? :P
Aug 12 14:16:28 <Vajb> lol
Aug 12 14:16:41 <Vajb> i hope ac is over the top then
Aug 12 15:33:19 <freemangordon> anybody can help with glib signal/marshallers? as I think I found a nasty bug in hildon-plugins-notify-sv, but I need confirmation
Aug 12 15:34:15 <freemangordon> there is a dbus service nsv-decoder-service, which has gobject of type NsvDecoderService
Aug 12 15:34:31 <freemangordon> in its clas init function it registers 2 signals
Aug 12 15:34:35 <freemangordon> *class
Aug 12 15:34:57 <freemangordon> "decoded" and "error-decoding"
Aug 12 15:35:35 <freemangordon> see https://pastebin.com/kD5urRzy
Aug 12 15:36:48 <freemangordon> now, the first signal has 2 parameters of type G_TYPE_STRING and returns void, but the marshaller is nsv_marshal_VOID__STRING_STRING_STRING. similar for the second signal
Aug 12 15:37:10 <freemangordon> Pali: ^^^?
Aug 12 15:42:47 <DocScrutinizer05> how I hate it >:-(  every second website rises such shite lately  http://wstaw.org/m/2017/08/12/plasma-desktopkJ2346.png
Aug 12 15:43:36 <Pali> do not know
Aug 12 15:44:22 <freemangordon> I asked on #gtk+, lets see
Aug 12 15:44:30 <DocScrutinizer05> BS website X embeds even worse BS SSL ads with expired cert
Aug 12 15:44:38 <freemangordon> however, if anybody here knows the answer :)...
Aug 12 15:46:55 <DocScrutinizer05> freemangordon: simple yes/no answer. Is this mashalling stuff about dbus proxy that loads and runs the real receiving process only when some signal or message on dbus is addressed towards receiver?
Aug 12 15:48:43 <freemangordon> no. it is "definition" of a signal of a GObjectClass successor
Aug 12 15:49:02 <freemangordon> тхоугх дбус проьъ хас марсхаллинг стуфф ас велл
Aug 12 15:49:06 <freemangordon> sorry
Aug 12 15:49:19 <freemangordon> though dbus proxy has marshalling stuff as well
Aug 12 15:49:22 <DocScrutinizer05> btw same above pastebin URL also made konqueror allocate ~6GB RAM and counting with 100% CPU, until I killed it
Aug 12 15:49:36 <freemangordon> fix your browser
Aug 12 15:49:51 <DocScrutinizer05> JS bullshit in ads
Aug 12 15:50:10 <freemangordon> mozilla with uBlock origin has no problems with it
Aug 12 15:50:16 <DocScrutinizer05> sure
Aug 12 15:51:11 <DocScrutinizer05> konqueror JS is old crap. However it's way too easy to write shite in JS that does such rogue stuff unless the JS engine and hosting browser takes special care to avoid it
Aug 12 15:51:35 <freemangordon> yeah, web 2, you know :(
Aug 12 15:51:41 <DocScrutinizer05> indeed
Aug 12 15:51:59 <freemangordon> trash clients' browsers, who cares
Aug 12 15:52:14 <freemangordon> put all the nodejs and whatnot shit on it
Aug 12 15:55:32 <DocScrutinizer05> they didn't think one second about safeguards of any kind in their JS definition, and they should get shot with owl dung because they didn't
Aug 12 15:58:18 <DocScrutinizer05> "open new windows, sure let's implement that, sounds great" - this sort of brainfart. Everybody with one working ganglion vould see you want limit that in a few reasonable ways, like "not more than 5 per instance. Not allowed for subprocesses that already are a window opened by that function" or whatever
Aug 12 16:00:00 <DocScrutinizer05> they didn't and the result was fun with a bazillion advertisment windows spammed over your desktop, you couldn't close them as fast as they open
Aug 12 16:00:31 <DocScrutinizer05> then they wend "oh, we might want to add something to stop that" - and failed again, in some other way
Aug 12 19:21:40 <sixwheeledbeast^> I switched to using uBlock/uMatrix recently. Pretty impressed
Aug 12 19:32:01 <NeKit> pushed to git current PKGBUILDs I used for Arch chroot, if anyone is interested: https://github.com/NotKit/archlinux-maemo
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