**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Aug 24 03:00:01 2017 Aug 24 04:40:43 sunshavi: I guess that different parts of the software/firmware used in the N900 running a specific OS, presumably Maemo 5, have different stack sizes, assuming you mean stack as in the call stack data structure? Aug 24 04:42:04 For example, the stack size used in the kernel may be different than in userspace. DocScrutinizer05 may know some specifics. Aug 24 04:47:20 Incidentally: Is it ironic to have a high-performance car with a spark-ignition engine that is at least as acoustically noisy as an old diesel car, such as the 1998 TDI car (Volkswagen New Beetle) I had? If I want an acoustically noisy car, why choose one that uses lots of energy and has a short range (sports car with spark-ignition engine) when I could have a diesel car that uses little energy and has a long range? Aug 24 04:57:11 I do not understand the attraction of intentionally having an acoustically noisy vehicle, such as with little to no muffling of the exhaust from the engine. When I am disturbed by the intentionally dramatically increased acoustic noise from a vehicle, I am not impressed, I am irritated at being disturbed by unnecessary noise pollution. Aug 24 05:09:50 brolin_empey: thanks. I am having a problem with emacs-master. It seems an stackoverflow Aug 24 05:14:09 I was away from home and work, wanted to use my N900 to access the contact manager of the Google Mail Web interface to get contact information for someone who was not in my contacts on my N900 because I first met this person after I retired my N900 (in 2014). Fennec said it cannot load https://mail.google.com/ because of a TLS error, something about no commonality between the cyphers supported by the client and the server. Opera silently exited (crashed, I Aug 24 05:14:09 guess?) while loading Google Mail. I did not try MicroB but I guess it is even older than Fennec. Aug 24 05:23:22 My N900 is so slow that, after I slide the switch on the side to unlock the computer, I can see the LCD backlighting a blank/black screen before the screen is drawn. I do not notice that on my Galaxy Note 3 but I guess that is partly because it has an LED display. ;-) Aug 24 05:26:41 mine has no issue with mail.google.com Aug 24 05:27:18 Apparently at least one model of computer in the Samsung Galaxy series even uses a TI OMAP SoC. It seems strange that Samsung has their own line of ARM SoCs but still uses SoCs from other companies in Samsung-branded products. Aug 24 05:29:00 microb, that is Aug 24 05:31:48 It seems usual for a company designing a product to use a part from a different company when the company designing the product does not have their own part for that purpose but it seems surprising when a company has their own product for a purpose but still uses a part from a different company. I guess it probably makes sense in practice even if only for a business reason, not a technical reason. Aug 24 05:37:51 sicelo: Heh, http://mail.google.com/ loads in MicroB for me too. Aug 24 05:39:53 Well, the text has apparently loaded. Apparently no inline images have loaded but the cellular Internet connectivity on the N900 is usually very slow in Canada, at least in Metro Vancouver. Aug 24 06:04:09 Samsung uses a wide variety of SoC even across the same model of phone Aug 24 06:14:41 sicelo: Yes, the Galaxy Note 3 model literally has twenty variants. Aug 24 06:15:41 I mean twenty variants of the model of computer, not twenty variants of the SoC. Aug 24 06:16:00 which really sucks, as fixes for the one don't necessarily work on the opther Aug 24 06:16:02 :-( Aug 24 06:17:16 i have an S4 that somehow lost its IMEI .. there's so much info & help available for the Snapdragon S4, but none of it is applicable to the Exynos (which i have). near to no info for the exynos too. just sucks Aug 24 06:42:44 sicelo: Have you tried using the specific systematic model name, such as SM-N900W8, instead of the marketing name, such as Galaxy Note 3? Aug 24 09:23:44  Aug 24 09:30:24  looks extremely funny Aug 24 09:32:42 http://wstaw.org/m/2017/08/24/plasma-desktopZg2346.png Aug 24 09:33:56 typing after that char sequence is more funny yet. every second char, what you type vanishes Aug 24 10:55:00 yes brolin_empey .. i've used its model name, i9500 and also codename, ja3g(xx) Aug 24 11:58:42 and sorry about that weird character. n900 bad network :) Aug 25 02:08:52 sicelo: OK. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Aug 25 03:00:02 2017