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Aug 31 03:44:55 <bgl_> hello
Aug 31 03:45:22 <bgl_> does somebody using double power battery on n900?
Aug 31 04:08:44 <sunshavi> Oksana: libc 2.5.1 on my device
Aug 31 04:10:16 <Oksana> gLibc and libc are the same thing? Then yes, it's a dependency problem, too
Aug 31 04:10:32 <Oksana> bgl_ : not me
Aug 31 04:12:13 <bgl_> how many days your phone will last with one charge ? Oksana 
Aug 31 04:16:40 <Oksana> Usually one day, recently lasted two days on one charged battery
Aug 31 04:18:56 <bgl_> with normal usage or mostly idle ?
Aug 31 04:21:33 <Oksana> Normal usage. As in, about one or two phone calls a day, half of the time connected to WiFi, checking email, browsing the web about an hour per day, cellular on all the time...
Aug 31 04:23:39 <Oksana> And it's not the best uptime it's possible to get. I am sure that my huge (60MB el-v1.db) database of calls-and-SMS-and-IRC  plus 3k of images plus 600+ of photographs use a lot of RAM and make tracker fairly slow?
Aug 31 04:23:56 <Oksana> 600+ of audio files * ^
Aug 31 04:24:08 <Oksana> 3k of images (including photographs) ^^
Aug 31 04:25:14 <Oksana> Use a lot of RAM => heavy swapping => probably drains battery, no idea if it is so
Aug 31 04:25:37 <Oksana> ~botsnack
Aug 31 04:25:37 <infobot> thanks, Oksana
Aug 31 04:25:38 <bgl_> do you use sd card to swap ?
Aug 31 04:25:54 <bgl_> what kernel do you use?
Aug 31 04:26:47 <Oksana> No, I haven't set up any swapping and I don't have any microSD card inserted. This device in particular is pre-owned, so it came with power kernel
Aug 31 04:27:05 <Oksana> 2.6.28-10power52
Aug 31 05:17:49 <bgl_> Hmm I think using microSD drain battery a little bit
Aug 31 05:20:10 <bgl_> Oksana do you use cssu ?
Aug 31 05:29:56 <Oksana> Yes
Aug 31 05:30:09 <Oksana> CSSU-thumb
Aug 31 05:35:06 <bgl_> on the battery meter, how much mAh on full charge ?
Aug 31 05:37:24 <Oksana> Currently, it says 832/1277 mAh. But does it make any sense when I have half a dozen of different batteries? How does it know the capacity of the battery?
Aug 31 05:46:14 <jonwil> Updating the root CA certificates is easy :)
Aug 31 05:48:17 <bonggie> Tutorial please :) 
Aug 31 05:50:02 <bgl_> Oksana i'm using BNF apps to check capacity battery. But the value is different from CSSU battery. From BNF I got 2000mAh but from CSSU battery only 12xxmAh
Aug 31 05:50:38 <bgl_> I tried to calibrate but still don't work, and sadly, now my battery detected as 15xxmAh
Aug 31 05:51:26 <jonwil> Updating the root CA certificates is easy :)
Aug 31 08:09:27 <buZz> 05:08:48 < antonok[m]> yeah, why don't we all just throw away our old android devices and get N900s instead :D
Aug 31 08:09:32 <buZz> from #postmarketos 
Aug 31 08:09:33 <buZz> ^_^
Aug 31 08:09:56 <KotCzarny> what android devices? i only have 3 n900s and one n9
Aug 31 08:09:57 <Wizzup> N900s - is that the small version of the N900?
Aug 31 08:10:26 <KotCzarny> buzz, i'm still remembering about you, pity my self organization sucks
Aug 31 08:12:28 <KotCzarny> *still remember
Aug 31 08:20:20 <buZz> ^_^
Aug 31 08:20:22 <buZz> no rush
Aug 31 08:20:38 <buZz> although my main n900 recently died in a cocacola bath ;(
Aug 31 08:20:57 <KotCzarny> i've misread as 'cocaine bath' and was wtf?
Aug 31 08:21:56 <buZz> :)
Aug 31 08:21:56 <bencoh> :/
Aug 31 09:19:21 <sicelo> (gpsrecorder works very well for what i wanted to do in connection with my question yesterday)
Aug 31 09:45:37 <ceene> hi guys!
Aug 31 09:45:42 <ceene> i'm back from holydays :)
Aug 31 09:45:50 <KotCzarny> 'holidays'
Aug 31 09:45:54 <KotCzarny> and hi
Aug 31 09:45:55 <ceene> i consider them holy
Aug 31 09:45:59 <bonggie> Hello
Aug 31 09:46:13 <ceene> there's anything holier than being on vacation :P
Aug 31 09:46:22 <KotCzarny> did you make the sacrifice?
Aug 31 09:46:23 <bonggie> Sleeping?
Aug 31 09:47:20 <ceene> i sacrificed my well being by coming back to work
Aug 31 09:52:39 <bencoh> welcome back :)
Aug 31 09:54:44 <ceene> thanks! :)
Aug 31 09:54:49 <ceene> how's everything?
Aug 31 09:54:58 <ceene> anything interesting this last month?
Aug 31 11:14:42 <DocScrutinizer05> ceene: well, you missed a bit around neo900
Aug 31 12:49:38 <ceene> oh!
Aug 31 12:49:40 <ceene> what happened?
Aug 31 14:25:37 <Tr4sK> Hey here :)
Aug 31 14:26:11 <Tr4sK> Just got N900 back into my hand. Some of you are still playing with it?
Aug 31 14:26:21 <KotCzarny> all the time
Aug 31 14:27:18 <Tr4sK> Nice. I got really nostalgic about it few month ago. Decided to get some back
Aug 31 14:27:35 <KotCzarny> you know the flashing drill or need reminding?
Aug 31 14:27:42 <DocScrutinizer05> I'd not call it "playing"
Aug 31 14:28:47 <DocScrutinizer05> ~lf
Aug 31 14:28:47 <infobot> [#maemo lazyflashing] http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware#The_Lazy_Approach
Aug 31 14:29:46 <KotCzarny> you could've waited for the answer before barging over
Aug 31 14:31:33 <bencoh> Tr4sK: welcome back then :)
Aug 31 14:32:10 <bencoh> freemangordon: have you tried hildon-desktop with llvmpipe?
Aug 31 14:32:14 <bencoh> (on arm, that is)
Aug 31 14:33:07 <Tr4sK> After upgrading the system I got a bootloop on my n900…
Aug 31 14:33:28 <KotCzarny> how did you do it?
Aug 31 14:33:48 <Tr4sK> apt-get update&& apt-get upgrade&& reboot
Aug 31 14:33:57 <KotCzarny> never do that
Aug 31 14:34:03 <Tr4sK> :)
Aug 31 14:34:11 <KotCzarny> updates should be always done via app manager
Aug 31 14:34:23 <KotCzarny> anyway, reflash and go into cssu
Aug 31 14:34:24 <bencoh> although upgrade (as opposed to dist-upgrade) might work
Aug 31 14:34:50 <KotCzarny> bencoh, depends, as we saw, it's tricky ;)
Aug 31 14:34:50 <Tr4sK> should I run the lazyflashing?
Aug 31 14:34:53 <KotCzarny> yup
Aug 31 14:35:02 <KotCzarny> then:
Aug 31 14:35:04 <KotCzarny> ~cssu
Aug 31 14:35:04 <infobot> methinks cssu is http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU, or (Community Seamless Software Update)
Aug 31 14:35:23 <DocScrutinizer05> ~tell Tr4sKabout jrtools
Aug 31 14:35:31 <DocScrutinizer05> ~tell Tr4sK about jrtools
Aug 31 14:36:36 <bencoh> Tr4sK: assuming you don't care about the data
Aug 31 14:36:48 <KotCzarny> he/she said it's new one
Aug 31 14:42:05 <Tr4sK> yep
Aug 31 14:42:37 <Tr4sK> Any other distro than maemo still available?
Aug 31 14:43:00 <Tr4sK> I remember some pentesting distro, clean debian…
Aug 31 14:43:34 <DocScrutinizer05> pawn900
Aug 31 14:43:41 <DocScrutinizer05> not updated since ages
Aug 31 14:44:08 <DocScrutinizer05> all the tools there are genuinely available for maemo too though, afaik
Aug 31 14:44:43 <DocScrutinizer05> maemo basically _is_ "clean debian"
Aug 31 14:45:01 <DocScrutinizer05> just with added goodies
Aug 31 14:45:11 <DocScrutinizer05> and a slightly different init system
Aug 31 14:46:24 <Tr4sK> Great :)
Aug 31 14:47:12 <DocScrutinizer05> pwnie express been the name
Aug 31 14:47:39 <DocScrutinizer05> pr pwnphone
Aug 31 14:48:51 <DocScrutinizer05> intriguing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bzg3bsP-4Eg watch the procimity sensor flashing IR
Aug 31 14:49:45 <DocScrutinizer05> shows the OS isn't optimized, shouldn't run as long as there's no point in knowing about proximity (when screen blanked anyway)
Aug 31 14:50:13 <DocScrutinizer05> those are the little diffs between maemo5 and a generic debian/whatever distro
Aug 31 14:51:31 <DocScrutinizer05> or maybe I'm mistaken on that one
Aug 31 14:57:03 <DocScrutinizer05> meh, indeed N1540 optical switch aka proxy and N1530 aka ALS share a plain uncontrolled/unswitched V25 VCC
Aug 31 15:22:26 <Tr4sK> Hey, so I flashed my first device without issue. The second one crashes on Finishing flashing... done
Aug 31 15:22:29 <Tr4sK> Programming CMT:   9%Sending request 0x12 failed: No such device
Aug 31 15:22:31 <Tr4sK> sorry, flashing RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin (NOLO, rootfs, modem-fw) failed with errorcode 0
Aug 31 15:22:46 <KotCzarny> huhu, bad flash by previous owner
Aug 31 15:22:53 <KotCzarny> or simply dead modem :/
Aug 31 15:23:04 <bencoh> :/
Aug 31 15:23:12 <bencoh> doesn't sound cool
Aug 31 15:23:28 <Tr4sK> Nope doesn’t
Aug 31 15:23:50 <KotCzarny> i think it should still work, just as a pda 
Aug 31 15:24:05 <KotCzarny> or portable linux machine
Aug 31 15:24:13 <Tr4sK> Should I try to boot ?
Aug 31 15:24:28 <Tr4sK> I don’t plan to put any simcard inside for now
Aug 31 15:35:17 <Tr4sK> Reboot worked
Aug 31 15:55:12 <Tr4sK> I would like to do SSH on my N900 via USB
Aug 31 15:58:16 <sicelo> why not wifi?
Aug 31 15:58:30 <sicelo> anyway USB possible too .. works fine. see wiki
Aug 31 19:40:20 <DocScrutinizer05> >>failed with errorcode 0<<  is that a fsckup in my lazyflashing script?
Aug 31 19:40:45 <DocScrutinizer05> I admit I didn't test the error cases
Aug 31 19:41:02 <KotCzarny> test flashing broken modem
Aug 31 19:43:37 <DocScrutinizer05> hmmm   http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir_v2/flash-it-all.sh
Aug 31 19:43:58 * DocScrutinizer05 should practice more shellscript
Aug 31 19:44:54 <DocScrutinizer05> bash should be a lil bit more like c
Aug 31 19:45:07 <KotCzarny> there are c-like shells
Aug 31 19:45:21 <KotCzarny> simplest example being csh
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