**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Sep 17 03:00:01 2017 Sep 17 11:19:25 hi Sep 17 11:24:26 o/ Sep 17 11:43:01 Hi jonwil. Do you have any interest in Droid 4 ? Sep 17 11:45:31 btw, droid4 costs 50e including worldwide shipping from ebay (from the US) Sep 17 11:45:31 A lady in Australia emailed me about her's. ~$50 Sep 17 11:45:38 $50 Sep 17 11:45:53 (refurbished) Sep 17 11:46:09 "lightly used" Sep 17 11:47:04 It's tempting for me, but not sure about overcoming the android nuisance Sep 17 11:51:55 mike727: droid4 seems to be quite a good target for android-free software Sep 17 11:52:12 especially considering that some (known) kernel hackers/devs already picked it up Sep 17 11:52:27 and mainline status is getting pretty good already Sep 17 11:53:51 it's wonderful! Sep 17 11:54:10 Thanks. Some recent TMO posts sparked my interest. Apparantly common battery issues are solved by bending the flex connector. Sep 17 11:54:19 battery issues? Sep 17 11:54:35 keyboard is glorious Sep 17 11:54:38 I've read that charging can be intermittent Sep 17 11:55:09 blap: What do you run on it? Sep 17 11:55:15 sailfishOS Sep 17 11:57:31 keyboard map still needs some tweaking. sd card needs to mount to a consistent place (udev rules?) Sep 17 11:58:26 Is it limited to 32sd or can it be higher; like N900 ? Sep 17 11:58:50 *32GB microSD Sep 17 12:05:20 Is CM11 or CM12 sw related? Sep 17 12:07:07 i don't know Sep 17 12:07:39 i think i have 16gb in there, plenty for the podcasts Sep 17 12:12:51 D4: Is the screen's viewing quality about the same or better than n900 ? Sep 17 12:14:50 about same, but larger Sep 17 12:15:01 i think it's pentile Sep 17 12:19:01 the hardware seems to work. gps, camera, video recording Sep 17 12:19:13 no hdmi out afaik Sep 17 12:19:44 blap: sw issues like "sdcard mounting point" are likely not related to hw, so ... :) Sep 17 12:20:24 droid4 does have hdmi out, it might not be supported on sfos though Sep 17 12:20:45 i have heard it is not Sep 17 12:22:05 the irc client is nicely done Sep 17 12:22:21 but with a custom keyboard i'll build irssi Sep 17 12:26:17 mike727: screen isn't transflective though Sep 17 12:26:20 which is quite a pity Sep 17 12:26:53 but I don't know many smartphones with a transflective screen anyway, let alone with a keyboard Sep 17 12:26:53 those seem to be rare now Sep 17 12:38:24 Thanks. I suppose, I should just buy it. Might as well Sep 17 12:39:58 mike727: tbh I bought one, and I'm now waiting for usb connectors and ftdi stuff Sep 17 12:40:16 (more interested in mainline + devuan than sfos) Sep 17 12:41:39 so same USB flaw as n900? Sep 17 12:42:40 no, that's completely unrelated Sep 17 12:42:42 *'usb port' falling off ? Sep 17 12:42:45 nope Sep 17 12:42:53 see http://elektranox.org/droid4/ :) Sep 17 12:44:07 uart is "muxed" with usb (you can get either of the two) Sep 17 12:44:41 RX/RX are connected to the D+/D- pins Sep 17 12:44:45 RX/TX* Sep 17 12:46:47 Is there some risk with hardware & /or terminal commands? Sep 17 12:48:10 Sorry for being a noob. I should give that a proper read tomorrow. Sep 17 12:49:30 i don't understand Sep 17 12:49:38 but i see hdmi support(?) Sep 17 12:52:10 Is usb connectors and ftdi stuff from ebay? Sep 17 12:56:40 what is that for? Sep 17 12:58:27 For making D4 have mainline linux (eg. Devuan) Sep 17 13:00:10 There is a guide (blog) about it, in the link Sep 17 13:02:37 ah well get one for every OS then :) Sep 17 13:02:50 Will you have to do soldering (usb connectors) or will you get ready-made? Sep 17 13:20:12 mike727: I ordered parts from aliexpress Sep 17 13:20:46 (and there is no need to alter the phone itself) Sep 17 14:30:46 I have zero interest in Droid 4 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Sep 18 03:00:01 2017