**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Oct 04 03:00:02 2017 Oct 04 05:38:05 Apparently the Friday the 13th next week is day number 286 of the year. Is that unlucky news for Intel? Oct 04 05:40:47 numerlogy only works when you are hunting some other numerology addicted criminal Oct 04 05:41:00 otherwise it's just random numbers Oct 04 05:42:23 KotCzarny: Does Larry Wall feel at home in your country? ;-) Oct 04 05:43:03 Or Guido van Rossum in Paraguay? Oct 04 05:43:06 i live in the internet, so probably yes Oct 04 05:44:15 KotCzarny: I meant because Poland = .pl and because Paraguay = .py . It was a computer joke (pun). Oct 04 05:44:58 is redtube made of tubes? Oct 04 05:45:34 KotCzarny: The pr0n Web site? Oct 04 05:46:33 no, the scientific community site Oct 04 05:49:05 KotCzarny: OK, I was not aware of that site (scientific community named redtube). I thought that redtube was only a pr0n Web site. Oct 04 05:52:20 Is the SGI Octane RoHS-compliant (so that it is unleaded, like modern gasoline)? Oct 04 05:52:39 i think it's already obsolete and scrapped Oct 04 05:53:46 Does a heavy metal band have a lead singer? Oct 04 06:13:00 Do The Cars use an SGI Octane? Oct 04 06:15:44 If there was a computer game company before the advent of the transistor, would the company be a Thermionic Valve? Oct 04 06:21:17 Do you need a diode to rectify your current situation? Oct 04 07:43:25 Hello Oct 04 07:43:48 is talk.maemo forums down? Oct 04 07:44:03 works for me Oct 04 07:44:08 I'm getting a blacklist error Oct 04 07:44:19 But I'm a legit user Oct 04 07:44:26 ~unbanip Oct 04 07:44:26 it has been said that unbanip is please contact techstaff maemo org with your request, or see ~techstaff, or see https://www.stopforumspam.com/removal, or contact tmo maintainer chem|st in here Oct 04 07:44:49 Thanks, good to know Oct 04 07:44:51 you might try resetting your ip too if you have it dynamic Oct 04 07:45:26 I'm on my mobile network, I'll try Oct 04 07:45:47 Thanks for your help Oct 04 07:47:03 infobot: unbanip is also if your ip is dynamic, try changing it Oct 04 07:47:03 KotCzarny: okay Oct 04 07:47:07 ~unbanip Oct 04 07:47:07 methinks unbanip is please contact techstaff maemo org with your request, or see ~techstaff, or see https://www.stopforumspam.com/removal, or contact tmo maintainer chem|st in here Oct 04 07:47:12 hrm Oct 04 07:47:37 ~listkeys unbanip Oct 04 07:47:40 Factoid search of 'unbanip' by key (3): unbanip #DEL# ;; #maemo unbanip ;; unbanip. Oct 04 07:50:23 ~unbanip Oct 04 07:50:23 unbanip is, like, please contact techstaff maemo org with your request, or see ~techstaff, or see https://www.stopforumspam.com/removal, or contact tmo maintainer chem|st in here, or if your ip is dynamic, try changing it Oct 04 10:28:52 sicelo: you having much luck with the new cutenews release? Widget seems to crash h-d for me. Oct 04 11:22:17 i should port #Hase Oct 04 11:22:31 no wait, YOU should Oct 04 14:17:09 ~factinfo #maemo unbanip Oct 04 14:17:09 #maemo unbanip -- created by sixwheeledbeast^ <~zem@lagrange.cloud-7.de> at Sat Nov 7 18:11:46 2015 (696 days); last modified 6h 27m ago by KotCzarny!ariel@31.135.195.151; it has been requested 26 times, last by KotCzarny, 6h 26m 46s ago. Oct 04 14:17:14 ~factinfo unbanip Oct 04 14:17:15 there's no such factoid as unbanip, DocScrutinizer05 Oct 04 14:17:31 ~factinfo unbanip. Oct 04 14:17:31 there's no such factoid as unbanip., DocScrutinizer05 Oct 04 14:17:46 ~listkeys unbanip Oct 04 14:17:47 Factoid search of 'unbanip' by key (2): unbanip #DEL# ;; #maemo unbanip. Oct 04 14:37:05 sixwheeledbeast: i don't use widget (because there's no 'easy' way to add it to desktop) Oct 04 14:37:34 sicelo: you add it like a normal widget Oct 04 14:37:49 i don't see it in the list of widgets Oct 04 14:38:11 but cutenews itself works just fine after doing the permissions 'hack' Oct 04 14:38:59 It was missing in the last release but has now reappeared, however it crashes h-d for me if I add it. Oct 04 14:39:10 holly molly! i see it now. weird. wasn't there earlier. or maybe needed to restart H#F (via a reboot) Oct 04 14:40:57 i supposedly added it ... but i don't see it in any desktop. no longer appears in widget menu Oct 04 14:41:17 s/H#F/H-D/ Oct 04 14:46:26 for me after 5 second of adding it h-d crashes and it is readded to the widgets list Oct 04 14:46:50 so removed as a widget Oct 04 14:46:51 what's your cssu version? Oct 04 14:46:56 stable 8 Oct 04 14:47:12 ok. i'm on testing/thumb Oct 04 14:47:33 not crashing here .. but no widget in sight either, and still missing in list Oct 04 14:48:25 i can test on thumb with another device Oct 04 14:48:30 okay, bring widget up using cmdlne seems to work Oct 04 14:49:03 but widget via cmd .. err Oct 04 14:51:10 or maybe my 'hack' creates problems for dbus, or whatever method the widget menu depends on. Oct 04 14:54:10 but no crash up to now. Oct 04 14:55:29 try yours from terminal Oct 04 15:01:25 neither the widget or the main program work for me at the moment Oct 04 15:01:49 from icons or the cli Oct 04 15:02:38 sorry i missed some of your text ... Oct 04 15:04:11 neither the widget or the main program work for me at the moment Oct 04 15:04:19 from icons or the cli Oct 04 15:05:27 chmod 755 /opt/cutenews/bin/showwindow Oct 04 15:06:29 QMetaMethod::invoke: Unable to handle unregistered datatype 'QList' repeated over and over Oct 04 15:11:16 no idea. maybe need to reinstall? would seem you're missing something Oct 04 15:13:35 Possibly, seems odd if it worked before. I'll have a look when I get a minute. I am currently trying out modrana from github with hope to get updates in extras again. Oct 04 17:19:45 widgets are hell spawn ;-) Since they all run inside the HD process so the _must_ behave absolutely correct or will crash whole desktop - that happened to me with PR1.1 and don't know which widget, which made a complete reflash necessary Oct 04 17:20:53 it's probably the one most stupid design decision in whole maemo Oct 04 18:12:24 I would say that error repeated over and over would cause h-d to crash. Oct 04 18:23:45 DocScrutinizer05, that's interesting because although i tend to steer clear of even learning how "graphical shells" work, that kinda seems to remind me of how widgets and extensions and similar beasts work (or fail to work) in a few desktop environments... Oct 04 18:41:10 DocScrutinizer05: widgets run in context of hildon-home. also it has a mechanism to disable the buggy widgets upon crash Oct 04 18:42:04 freemangordon: soory, yes, HH Oct 04 18:42:37 that mechanism either failed or lacked completely back when a widget nuked my N900 Oct 04 18:45:59 I am not sure it triggers on the first crash Oct 04 18:48:45 from experience it removes all widgets from the desktops on crash Oct 04 18:51:54 sixwheeledbeast: or that one, yeah Oct 04 18:55:40 freemangordon: Pr1.0 or 1.1, bootloop Oct 04 18:56:38 and I'm not even sure it was a genuinely bad widget or rather a hickup in FF's widget config or whatever Oct 04 18:56:50 s/FF/HH Oct 04 18:58:00 yeah, seen that total widget erasure once or twice since Oct 04 18:58:35 yay pyra new wifi chip to get 'diversity' Oct 04 18:58:36 wasn't aware it was an intentional safeguard measure Oct 04 18:59:07 ohwell they have plenty of space for the antennas ;-P Oct 04 18:59:22 alas in Neo900 we can't Oct 04 18:59:30 ah Oct 04 18:59:32 not really Oct 04 19:01:01 though WHAT??? they changed the wifi chip? Oct 04 19:01:39 oh new antenna adds diversity Oct 04 19:01:50 that would be incredibly insane or unfortunate if they had (to) Oct 04 19:01:52 they replaced the chip a while ago Oct 04 19:02:26 don't they still use WL18xx? Oct 04 19:02:40 don't know Oct 05 00:40:55 "great job ED you're building the most user servicable handheld in the world... and by a huge margin " Oct 05 00:40:58 https://pyra-handheld.com/boards/proxy.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fsebt3.openpandora.org%2Fpics%2FIMG_20170920_213453.jpg&hash=df448b249b9996a0044588ecc817e87a **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Oct 05 03:00:01 2017