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Oct 29 05:32:49 <Vajb> wanted to give text based browsers a go. Links crashes in first page i try and lynx fails to even start
Oct 29 05:32:56 <Vajb> nice going
Oct 29 05:43:38 <sicelo> i once used lynx from repos. it worked for me back then
Oct 29 05:46:36 * Maxdamantus uses elinks when he needs to use a text-based browser.
Oct 29 05:47:10 <Vajb> fotr me it whines "can't access start file"
Oct 29 05:47:33 <Vajb> Can't Access `file://localhost/usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html'
Oct 29 05:47:50 <Maxdamantus> So maybe try visiting something else?
Oct 29 05:47:54 <Vajb> i don't know why it is looking it from such place tho
Oct 29 05:48:05 <Maxdamantus> press `g` and it should ask you for a URL.
Oct 29 05:48:18 <Maxdamantus> or escape, file, open .. or something.
Oct 29 05:48:20 <Vajb> yes i know
Oct 29 05:50:20 <Vajb> oo something different. Now it complains it doesn't have ssl
Oct 29 05:50:58 <Vajb> i wanted to read news headlines, but i guess i'll just open my laptop
Oct 29 05:56:06 <Maxdamantus> Might be interesting to try making a text-based browser using headless Chromium or something.
Oct 29 05:57:05 <Maxdamantus> So you know it supports practically any website that works in normal browsers, just as long as it can turn the DOM into some reasonable textual form.
Oct 29 06:01:03 <Vajb> would be cool to have a browser that just shows text and nothing else
Oct 29 06:01:16 <Vajb> might be fast as well
Oct 29 06:12:44 <sicelo> and might not be able to open other sites :-)
Oct 29 06:13:03 <sicelo> esp. the JS-heavy ones
Oct 29 06:13:36 <Maxdamantus> Well, JS-heavy sites should still work, because there isn't really anything that says you need to render the DOM to a physical screen.
Oct 29 06:13:59 <Maxdamantus> and JS/DOM should work fine without a screen.
Oct 29 06:14:56 <Maxdamantus> There might be some issues regarding things like `getBoundingClientRect` .. some code might depend on using things like that to determine dimension information, but that's still fairly independent of having to actually draw anything to a screen.
Oct 29 06:15:05 <sicelo> i've found many sites that simply refuse to show anything with elinks. you just get maybe a top heading, and nothing else
Oct 29 06:15:51 <Maxdamantus> Yeah, elinks doesn't support JS afaik, or if it does, I don't think my install does.
Oct 29 06:15:59 <sicelo> even though, as you mention, even elinks supports JS to sum extent
Oct 29 06:16:28 <sicelo> there is basic JS support, at least in some version(s)
Oct 29 06:16:36 <Maxdamantus> and even if it does, I suspect it lacks support for a bunch of extra things on top of plain JS/DOM support, like XHR.
Oct 29 06:17:23 <Vajb> ok got lynx to work as well and find out it wont work any better
Oct 29 06:17:32 <Vajb> no ssl support in our version
Oct 29 06:17:56 <Maxdamantus> When supporting things like XHR properly, you need to implement correct semantics for things like CORS.
Oct 29 06:18:10 <sicelo> Vajb: become a maintainer and update it :)
Oct 29 06:22:14 <Vajb> lynx works in my news headlines page
Oct 29 06:22:27 <Vajb> well not my as mine but the one i use
Oct 29 07:26:01 <KotCzarny> vajb, you can always compile your own version, it's not that hard (usually 2 commands)
Oct 29 07:26:04 <KotCzarny> but most sites are simply broken when using js-less browser
Oct 29 07:46:42 <Vajb> yeah i guess
Oct 29 11:56:34 <sunshavi> Vajb: i use w3m on n900
Oct 29 11:57:25 <KotCzarny> btw. try dillo and midori too
Oct 29 11:57:29 <KotCzarny> they are both lightweight
Oct 29 11:58:18 <bencoh> dillo <3
Oct 29 12:34:04 <ceene> midori works really well on n900
Oct 29 12:34:24 <ceene> i would say is the best browser for n900, in fact
Oct 29 12:35:52 <KotCzarny> each of available browser have their strenghts and weaknesses
Oct 29 12:35:55 <KotCzarny> and uses
Oct 29 12:44:49 <sicelo> how do midori & dillo on N900 handle https://www.softaculous.com/demos/HumHub ?
Oct 29 12:47:02 <sicelo> and https://news.ycombinator.com
Oct 29 12:49:20 <ceene> the midori version i used was the one from easydebian
Oct 29 12:49:28 <ceene> i don't remember which version was it
Oct 29 12:49:37 <ceene> but it was quite up to date and standards compliant
Oct 29 12:53:53 <sicelo> regarding humhub, a friend has a site that i sometimes help him with. Opera Mobile freezes the N900, microb, as expected, can't render it at all, and only fennec allows me to use it.
Oct 29 12:54:19 <sicelo> the hacker news page -only opera mobile can open - certificate issues
Oct 29 13:00:12 <ceene> the only problem i've ever had with fennec is that it was too ram consuming
Oct 29 13:00:27 <ceene> that's why i like midori more
Oct 29 13:25:23 <KotCzarny> no repo yet
Oct 29 13:25:27 <KotCzarny> whoops, wrong chan
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