**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Nov 08 03:00:03 2017 Nov 08 05:32:18 is it possible to disable "continous view" from default pdf reader on n900? It is broken imo. It skips pages frequently. Nov 08 05:32:52 i mean that it starts with that option disabled Nov 08 05:34:00 is it possible to set "continous view" disabled by default. I think this is the thing i tried to ask in the first place. Nov 08 05:47:47 not that i found. once looked in gconf but didn't pick anything up Nov 08 05:56:17 yeah i looked from gconf too Nov 08 05:56:29 is it even open source? Nov 08 05:57:28 also would be neat if it could handle multiple files opened at once. Now im using evince for second pdf Nov 08 05:57:49 * Maxdamantus uses mupdf. Nov 08 05:58:15 but if there ever rises a need for three pdf's at once... Nov 08 05:58:29 ah maybe i install mupdf for that :p Nov 08 05:59:00 Well, mupdf handles multiple because you can just run mupdf multiple times. Nov 08 05:59:12 Dunno about evince, but I'd've imagined it would do similar. Nov 08 05:59:28 hmm lemm tryä Nov 08 05:59:33 -ä* Nov 08 05:59:53 mupdf also doesn't waste screen space with a bunch of buttons like this osso_pdfviewer seems to (unless it's put into fullscreen mode) Nov 08 06:00:40 I think you'll probably need to do the WM hints fix to mupdf though. Nov 08 06:01:40 evince goes to previous one, if i try to open another instance Nov 08 06:01:46 What is the best ebook reader on N900? Something not Qt, not Python... Nov 08 06:02:38 It would also be neat if tracker recognised ebooks as a format separate from Documents or Text. Nov 08 06:06:46 Granted, for ebooks to be recognised as a different format, they would probably need to be: 1) not pdf or doc (Documents); 2) not rtf or txt (Text); 3) not html (that one format is used for just about everything, from Applications to Documents and Other). Nov 08 06:07:55 Well, the standard ebook format is HTML, isn't it? Nov 08 06:07:57 (epub) Nov 08 06:08:25 Epub is the most interesting one, yes. As in, open and well-known? Nov 08 06:09:01 Widely used. Nov 08 06:09:52 I haven't really used many ebooks, but I remember buying one of my university course's books from Barnes and Noble in epub format. Nov 08 06:10:15 for epub, i use Dorian. seemed better than the others for me. and i use epubs consistently Nov 08 06:10:28 Though it was encrypted somehow .. had to do something involving some Adobe software in a Windows VM to convert it into a regular epub that I could load in fbreader. Nov 08 06:10:51 Maxdamantus: how to zoom in using mupdf? Nov 08 06:10:54 sicelo: + Nov 08 06:11:32 nice. thanks. Nov 08 06:11:54 and how to go to a page? Nov 08 06:12:03 123G Nov 08 06:12:07 to go to page 123 Nov 08 06:12:23 :-) Nov 08 06:12:44 Can also do things like 5 to move forward 5 pages Nov 08 06:13:33 thatś what i never learned. but this is rreally great. Nov 08 06:13:35 The man page should have the keys. Nov 08 06:13:37 There is a variety of formats. epub, mobi, cbr-cbz, fb2, djvu, chm... Mobi is not widely used, cbr is niche (comics), fb2 is interesting alternative to epub, djvu is Documents (or very old scanned paper books), chm is mostly Software-Documentation. Nov 08 06:13:53 comics are NOT niche! Nov 08 06:14:03 Okay, so dorian and fbreader... Nov 08 06:14:09 * Maxdamantus has been using mupdf for everything on his desktop for years too. Nov 08 06:14:40 KotCzarny : I have yet to find a good source of comics, but that's because I don't go looking for them. I do have appropriate reader installed on my N900 though, just in case. Nov 08 06:15:10 torrents or if you look for translated ones you have to find your local translating group Nov 08 06:16:09 look for neil gaiman for starters Nov 08 06:16:16 good stuff Nov 08 06:16:25 Huh... What is a good comic-creating software? Because that's my problem with typical ebook-readers: they don't exactly have an edit mode. Nov 08 06:16:46 because they are bnch of images with text file for meta data Nov 08 06:17:01 and often crafted manually Nov 08 06:17:41 don't go overboard with 'i need an app for..' Nov 08 06:17:54 Granted, "Gallery" doesn't exactly help with creating images, either, but at least it allows some tiny edits (crop, brightness+contrast, et cetera). Somehow getting Photos to interact with Sketch (just like Camera interacts with Photos) would be nice. Nov 08 06:18:26 frontview does nicely for cropping etc Nov 08 06:18:59 Ideally, a ebook app would allow for plugins to interact with websites. Such as, browse ebooks published online (and download them to local shelf for offline reading), write ebooks on device and publish them online... Nov 08 06:19:18 Plugin for ArchiveOfOurOwn, for example. Nov 08 06:20:26 * Oksana is currently thinking that Photos and Media Player could be integrated, since gif is something inbetween an image and a video Nov 08 06:20:42 As in, made one app. But GUI would be a hell to design Nov 08 06:20:48 yup Nov 08 06:20:54 different uses Nov 08 06:21:02 different modes/functions Nov 08 06:21:26 How so? Cropping a video, or changing its brightness-contrast, is not impossible. Just troublesome. Nov 08 06:21:28 photos should becom gallery Nov 08 06:21:54 ie. photos+moving images (but not exactly full size blueray releases) Nov 08 06:23:56 Gallery for all photos+videos? Fun, especially taking music (with album covers) into account. Nov 08 06:24:12 not all videos, but those in dcim folder Nov 08 06:24:39 * Oksana still thinks that Image's Creator, Music's Artist and such should be integrated with Contacts aka address book. Nov 08 06:24:59 that way when you browse your summer memories you would see them all without need for getting out for missing moving images Nov 08 06:25:20 buy android for that :-) Nov 08 06:26:15 KotCzarny : Agree. I still wonder when I see how Gwenview can display not only images, but videos as well Nov 08 06:27:17 * Oksana still thinks that Sketch is very SVG-ish. If it wasn't for eraser tool, at least. Nov 08 06:41:30 Maxdamantus: + doesnt zoom on n900 .. or i´ missing something? Nov 08 06:44:12 sicelo: do any keys work? If not, it's probably the WM hints issue. Nov 08 06:44:35 (so the input will be going to the previous window you had focused) Nov 08 06:45:23 yes, makes sense. how to fix? :) Nov 08 06:45:36 Have to modify the source code. Nov 08 06:45:47 I could probably post the deb I made. Nov 08 06:50:50 https://gist.github.com/Maxdamantus/daf0a165e1aeccc62d24d580d965bd89/raw/dc77efb37ecb042ba5b22979f91ac6bab1ed1872/mupdf_1.4-1_armel.deb Nov 08 06:50:56 I think that's the package I'm using. Nov 08 06:51:12 Should probably figure out how to upload it to the repository or something. Nov 08 06:57:12 let me test Nov 08 06:59:00 thanks. working. Nov 08 06:59:08 np Nov 08 11:24:00 Epubreader is a fascinating application. At the very least, it integrates with tracker? Nov 08 11:24:53 Though I wish it would help tracker to generate thumbnails for epubs Nov 08 11:27:06 integrates in what way? Nov 08 11:28:45 I have epubreader installed seems to do the job, not that I read books or ebooks a lot. Nov 08 22:25:07 sixwheeledbeast : Integrates in what way? One, it tells File Manager to open .epub files with epub reader (aka, integrates with mimetypes). Two, it auto-populates Library with all epub files it can find (aka, integrates with tracker). Though, while the Library does display book-covers for epub Nov 08 22:25:07 files, File Manager doesn't - and that's what I mean by unfinished tracker integration. Nov 08 22:27:15 I have yet to see how mebook, fbreader, dorian and mgutenberg compare. So far, I can also complain that epubreader offers a very limited choice of "paper colours", and somehow would rather offer a long scroll up-down chapter, instead of auto-splitting it into screen-size pages to be scrolled Nov 08 22:29:32 left-right. Nov 08 22:31:47 ah mimetypes, got ya. Nov 09 00:49:59 does anyone here run alternative distro on the n900? if so what kernel do you use and any links would be appreciated, thanks **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Nov 09 03:00:01 2017