**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Dec 21 03:00:00 2017 Dec 21 07:36:56 hildon-mime-summon has no bin, just "documentation". What is this package? Dec 21 07:43:35 dbus-switchboard is a pain... Python, reboot after install, and reboot after each change of settings. Dec 21 07:46:54 ? Dec 21 07:48:28 Just trying to figure out which one universal command in X Terminal would be sufficient to open a file: image in Photos, audio/video in Media Player, and html in Web. Dec 21 07:48:49 make own script? Dec 21 07:48:52 see from mime-support package doesn't seem to work, for whatever reason. Dec 21 07:49:32 Wikiwide: I think that would be xdg-open, although for some reason we don't have it on maemo Dec 21 07:50:35 you should check where it comes from on debian-like distributions Dec 21 09:59:29 brolin_empey, I had a a Compaq Prosignia server, that had a small 4.5V Varta alkaline battery. The thing about alkaline batteries is that they will leak when they're empty. Luckily I got to that one in time and changed it to 4LR12 battery ... which probably has leaked by now :D Dec 21 10:00:41 let's promote 'change your alkaline batteries day' ? Dec 21 10:04:49 It says on the packs .. don't store empty batteries in your device Dec 21 10:15:53 ShadowJK: OK. In which year was that server made? I have little experience with actual server computer hardware as opposed to client computer hardware used as a server. We have a Dell PowerEdge 2950 server computer at work that we use for software builds but it is powered on only when actually needed because the fans are too acoustically noisy. Dec 21 10:17:10 1994 1995 sometime Dec 21 10:17:34 change the fans? Dec 21 10:19:12 KotCzarny: I mean I think the fans are healthy but they are too loud. Loud fans seems to be a common complaint about this model of computer. Dec 21 10:19:27 still, change the fans? Dec 21 10:22:41 KotCzarny: There may be some way to quiet the fans (is “quiet” a verb?) but no one has spent much time researching it because it is a low priority because this computer is usually no longer needed so the simple workaround is to leave the computer powered off. Dec 21 10:23:37 usually the way is to install quiet fans (there are plenty available on market) Dec 21 10:25:46 ShadowJK: OK. Is it an x86 computer? Dec 21 10:26:38 yes Dec 21 10:32:54 ShadowJK: OK. Dec 21 10:47:21 Remember http://imgbin.ca/image.uploads/06-12-2017/original-152c5395e0cf4016861191e87bc20382.jpg ? The black wire detached its soldered end from green PCB, delayered it, wavers up and down, making the circuit extremely unreliable (working only when ants are patiently pushing it to connect). Dec 21 10:49:46 I soldered a wire to connect this pin to the rest of the circuit, replacing a thin bridge-trace on the PCB with yet another wire. In process, more damage was incurred: one of the two thick wires connecting LEDs to PCB came detached. In attempt to solder it back onto PCB, the two black wires became soldered to each other. Dec 21 10:50:32 Placing + and - to be neighbours is recipe for disaster, especially where home-soldering is concerned. Dec 21 10:52:18 Long story short, we attached the LEDs string to two AA batteries directly. No solar panel charging, no on-and-off flashing, no waterproofing... But at least, it seems to work. Dec 21 10:53:21 I just wish we knew how to remove the solder metal (tin? flux? Not good with terminology). We don't have professional wick around here. Dec 21 10:53:43 by letting it stick to something else? Dec 21 10:53:58 there are solder suckers too Dec 21 10:56:04 Soldering tool sometimes eats and eats this metal. But it's difficult to remove all of it - it has soldered together two neighbouring points, creating a short in the circuit. Dec 21 10:56:05 Yes, we may have solder sucking pump around here somewhere... Came with the solder tool. Dec 21 10:57:34 /me thinks that the eight legged spider in the circuit is quite unnecessary, for flashing at least - it may be useful if it helps with solar panel Dec 21 10:58:18 Or just get some random wire Dec 21 10:58:22 On-and-off flashing should be easily doable with analog circuitry Dec 21 10:58:26 needs to be multistranded though Dec 21 10:59:23 Huh... We do have some multistranded wire. Painful to solder to something, at times - one thread is soldered, others aren't. Dec 21 11:01:49 recently i've found most important tip in soldering: 1/ heat the soldering tip, 2/ put elements to be soldered together, 3/ heat them for 1-2s, 4/ add solder and let it melt and fill spaces it needs, 5/ remove solder, 6/ remove soldering iron Dec 21 11:03:53 Hmm, neat, thank you. Would require eight tentacles of an octopus, to hold: 1) the tip; 2) element 1; 3) element 2; 4) additional solder - each with two hands. Dec 21 11:04:21 there are tools called 3rd hand, usually come with magnifier too Dec 21 11:04:44 We seem to have misplaced the solder somewhere. Had a huge roll of it "recently", now cannot seem to find it. Dec 21 11:04:51 but often you can just bend the wire on the other side so it wont try to get out Dec 21 11:05:20 Nice, have seen such third-hands in makerspace but it's closed for holidays. Dec 21 11:05:45 The hook trick, yes, that's what we did by the end. Dec 21 11:06:59 /me should take a photograph, probably tomorrow Dec 21 11:07:38 Good night :-) Dec 21 11:07:43 noon Dec 21 11:07:43 ;) Dec 21 14:26:36 booo the solder job i did on the USB connector didn't hold Dec 21 14:26:49 the connector stayed in place, but the data lines started acting up... Dec 21 14:26:57 cold joint? Dec 21 14:27:21 possible, i'll need an even finer tip as there's extremely little room to get in behind it Dec 21 14:28:16 i guess i could also tinfoil the area & go at it with the hot air reflow gun Dec 21 14:28:56 all to be done later Dec 21 15:47:33 The trick about soldering is having more than 2 hands Dec 21 16:12:10 https://cdn.instructables.com/F7G/94LQ/FS8RCPSZ/F7G94LQFS8RCPSZ.LARGE.jpg indeed! Dec 21 16:12:31 I was looking for clipart of squids soldering, but found this instead Dec 21 16:34:12 positioning the connector & soldering the grounds wasn't bad, it's mostly the 5 pins in the back, there's very little clearance between the connector & some other component on the board Dec 21 17:20:26 test Dec 21 17:22:06 есть кто живой? Dec 21 17:22:17 nyet. Dec 21 17:22:37 черт Dec 21 17:22:43 write in english Dec 21 17:22:50 ок Dec 21 17:22:56 damn Dec 21 17:24:40 nfc not working on n9 after flash Dec 21 17:24:55 any Dec 21 17:25:24 why Dec 21 17:25:25 most people here have n900 Dec 21 17:25:33 i would check talk.maemo.org Dec 21 17:25:38 ok Dec 21 17:25:56 from topic: N9/harmattan related questions please in #harmattan Dec 21 17:26:35 ок **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Dec 22 03:00:01 2017