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Dec 23 12:33:39 <brolin_empey> Apparently VC.COM (VisiCalc for PC-DOS 1.x from 1981) still runs on Windows 10 for x86-32 from 2015. :-D  Yes, it is off-topic but I had to try it.
Dec 23 15:30:03 <vahe1> KotCzarny: you can help? :) https://lut.im/1faQ2iRID2/U92kozXGLuwHoLjR.png I started Maemo  SDK but I have not found terminal 
Dec 23 15:30:36 <KotCzarny> i think it's the emulator, not sdk itself
Dec 23 15:30:53 <KotCzarny> ie. the thing you can test your app
Dec 23 15:31:34 <KotCzarny> http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo5_Final_Installation
Dec 23 15:31:39 <KotCzarny> here are some docs
Dec 23 15:32:00 <KotCzarny> since you are using vm probably you can skip installation parts
Dec 23 15:35:20 <vahe1> KotCzarny: I download what you gave yesterday, just launched that and Maemo5 SDK https://lut.im/3mg2PYAN9A/wfnMqnd0RJWckaUJ.png
Dec 23 15:36:17 <KotCzarny> click on applications there? should have terminal
Dec 23 15:36:54 <vahe1> Yes the first screen , no terminal
Dec 23 15:37:14 <KotCzarny> no, first screen is running xephyr (ie. device emulator)
Dec 23 15:37:28 <KotCzarny> the system in vm (not emulator) is the sdk
Dec 23 15:38:16 <vahe1> https://youtu.be/LcL-2I7F_zc?t=37s  about this situation
Dec 23 15:39:00 <vahe1> I ran it in VirtualBox  
Dec 23 15:39:08 <vahe1> maemosdk_desktop_lucid-36-2.vmdk
Dec 23 15:39:45 <vahe1> sorry, I bad speak English , don't get angry :D
Dec 23 15:40:02 <KotCzarny> btw. once you run terminal and run /scratchbox/login it's all set, dont run xephyr, unless you want to test your compiled package
Dec 23 15:40:40 <KotCzarny> having [sbox-FREMANTLE_armel: ~] means you are ready to compile
Dec 23 15:40:56 <KotCzarny> by default you compile for emulator, ie. FREMANTLE_X86
Dec 23 15:41:36 <KotCzarny> see terminal at 0:07s in your video
Dec 23 15:41:43 <KotCzarny> dont start af-sb-init.sh
Dec 23 15:41:57 <KotCzarny> unless as i've said, want to test things
Dec 23 15:43:18 <vahe1> Yes it will be difficult :D
Dec 23 15:44:28 <vahe1> KotCzarny: that is, I don't need to run it on VirtualBox? (maemosdk_desktop_lucid-36-2.vmdk)
Dec 23 15:44:40 <KotCzarny> you do need to start it in vm
Dec 23 15:44:50 <KotCzarny> just you dont need to run that emulator part
Dec 23 15:45:07 <KotCzarny> ie. you only go to terminal and run /scratchbox/login
Dec 23 15:50:12 <vahe1> realized for the test I need scratchbox ok
Dec 23 15:50:57 <KotCzarny> there are 2 things
Dec 23 15:51:18 <KotCzarny> 1/ sb, 2/ emulator (visible as xephyr)
Dec 23 15:51:28 <KotCzarny> you compile things in sb
Dec 23 15:51:48 <KotCzarny> and if you dont want to copy them over to device to run, you can test them in 2
Dec 23 15:52:59 <vahe1> ok )
Dec 23 15:59:29 <vahe1> KotCzarny: I understand everything) thank you very good explain
Dec 23 15:59:34 <KotCzarny> :)
Dec 23 15:59:52 <vahe1> now it remains the most difficult to compile)))
Dec 23 16:00:07 <vahe1> don't even know what to download :D
Dec 23 16:00:08 <KotCzarny> just the same as on any other debian-like system
Dec 23 16:00:22 <KotCzarny> so learn linux basics
Dec 23 16:00:28 <KotCzarny> not specific to maemo
Dec 23 16:00:42 <KotCzarny> maemo has few differences, but at first, learn the generics
Dec 23 16:03:05 <vahe1> ok ok thanks ))
Dec 23 16:20:46 <vahe1>  I need a little help :) https://lut.im/JlB2egcuYk/kX7MeJ0B3jOFrJIz.png 2. https://lut.im/qStJZvDkz4/pV5L0cevabHRtu9R.png 
Dec 23 16:23:46 <KotCzarny> remember, maemo is quite old 
Dec 23 16:24:23 <KotCzarny> having old kernel caps glibc version available, which in turn caps other libs
Dec 23 16:24:39 <KotCzarny> usual solution is hacking source packages into something workable
Dec 23 16:25:31 <KotCzarny> sometimes there are updated packages in extras-devel, but watch out for it, since it can contain untested software
Dec 23 16:26:03 <KotCzarny> while it's not a big problem in vm, installing them on device might result in bootloop
Dec 23 16:26:10 <KotCzarny> bbl
Dec 23 16:29:23 <vahe1> thanks )
Dec 23 21:43:57 <sicelo> does anyone remember which /sys node tells you if N9000 detected a wall charger or USB cable?
Dec 23 21:52:33 <sicelo> found it
Dec 23 21:52:50 <sicelo>  /sys/devices/platform/musb_hdrc/charger
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