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Dec 27 13:22:07 <CatButts> hey freemangordon
Dec 27 13:22:27 <CatButts> what's the state of youtube playback on the N900?
Dec 27 13:23:06 <CatButts> I've applied a couple of your solutions from the forum to get CuteTube2 working
Dec 27 13:23:10 <CatButts> it now works
Dec 27 13:23:50 <CatButts> but playback will choke on anything higher than 240p 3gp
Dec 27 13:24:16 <CatButts> even the 360p and 480p vids are unusable
Dec 27 13:24:21 <CatButts> got any ideas?
Dec 27 13:28:22 <bencoh> CatButts: I suppose you have the so-called hdcodecs (otherwise I don't think you'd be able to even try playing those vids, but who knows)
Dec 27 13:28:28 <bencoh> ?
Dec 27 13:28:52 <CatButts> how do I check
Dec 27 13:29:04 <CatButts> I did install some codecs
Dec 27 13:29:06 <bencoh> they require manual installation
Dec 27 13:29:26 <bencoh> with information from a 720p/hd codecs TMO thread
Dec 27 13:29:51 <CatButts> there's a mention that they are a part of CSSU-devel
Dec 27 13:29:59 <CatButts> now
Dec 27 13:30:11 <bencoh> hm, really?
Dec 27 13:30:19 <bencoh> including binaries from n9?!
Dec 27 13:30:25 <CatButts> hmmm
Dec 27 13:30:58 <CatButts> I did install something from HAM
Dec 27 13:31:01 <CatButts> let me fetch
Dec 27 13:32:28 <bencoh> CatButts: whatever that means, thread mentions it is now part of cssu-devel
Dec 27 13:32:33 <bencoh> which you shouldn't be using
Dec 27 13:32:53 <CatButts> Extras Decoders Support package
Dec 27 13:32:54 <bencoh> since cssu-devel is basically cssu developers playground
Dec 27 13:33:06 <bencoh> extras decoders is something else
Dec 27 13:36:17 <CatButts> right, I'm gonna have a go at these n9 decoders
Dec 27 13:36:53 <CatButts> but I need to find proper instructions and know if it clashes with 'Extra Decoders Support'
Dec 27 13:55:23 <CatButts> oh yeah, here's the deal, bencoh 
Dec 27 13:55:30 <CatButts> the webm decoder
Dec 27 13:55:41 <CatButts> that comes from Extra Decoders
Dec 27 13:55:45 <CatButts> it's piss
Dec 27 13:55:58 <CatButts> swith to mp4, problem solved, lol
Dec 27 13:56:50 <CatButts> I'm impressed
Dec 27 13:56:57 <CatButts> even 720 plays
Dec 27 13:57:04 <CatButts> with mp4
Dec 27 13:57:16 <CatButts> without choking
Dec 27 13:57:21 <CatButts> I love it!
Dec 27 13:57:39 <CatButts> guess the webm decoder is not so optimised after all
Dec 27 13:58:00 <KotCzarny> or no hw webm decoder at all :P
Dec 27 13:58:18 <KotCzarny> mp4 is supported by dsp decode
Dec 27 14:02:36 <CatButts> spoke too soon about 720p
Dec 27 14:02:44 <CatButts> guess I don't have it :P
Dec 27 14:03:08 <freemangordon> CatButts: webm codec is buggy
Dec 27 14:03:38 <freemangordon> audio playback stops every second or somesuch
Dec 27 14:03:45 <CatButts> yes
Dec 27 14:03:57 <freemangordon> 720p HP is too much for n900 to handle
Dec 27 14:04:04 <KotCzarny> fmg: is webm decoded by hw?
Dec 27 14:04:09 <freemangordon> yes
Dec 27 14:04:11 <freemangordon> afaik
Dec 27 14:04:22 <KotCzarny> oh, didnt know it existed
Dec 27 14:04:24 <freemangordon> well, not really sure
Dec 27 14:04:36 <freemangordon> I forgot that
Dec 27 14:04:51 <CatButts> 720p too much for N900, even with the fancy N9 decoders?
Dec 27 14:04:55 <freemangordon> yes
Dec 27 14:05:06 <freemangordon> 720p is sont simply 720p
Dec 27 14:05:13 <freemangordon> *is not
Dec 27 14:05:25 <freemangordon> it depends on the codec profile as well
Dec 27 14:05:41 <freemangordon> so, anything above basic is unhandable by n900
Dec 27 14:05:54 <CatButts> well, I am glad I can at least play 360 and 480
Dec 27 14:06:14 <CatButts> no thanks to webm
Dec 27 14:06:29 <freemangordon> yep, those are ok
Dec 27 14:06:58 <KotCzarny> also, isnt webm a container format (similar to avi) ?
Dec 27 14:07:06 <freemangordon> KotCzarny: wait, isn;t webm just a container?
Dec 27 14:07:11 <freemangordon> :D
Dec 27 14:07:13 <KotCzarny> ;)
Dec 27 14:12:00 <bencoh> webm is the container, but those video usually feature vp9
Dec 27 14:12:33 <bencoh> which is probably decoded by avcodec with no hw acceleration on our device :)
Dec 27 14:12:43 <bencoh> s/probably/most likely/
Dec 27 14:12:43 <infobot> bencoh meant: which is most likely decoded by avcodec with no hw acceleration on our device :)
Dec 27 14:12:50 <KotCzarny> so yeah, i was right about no hw dec
Dec 27 14:13:19 <bencoh> freemangordon: are the sources for your libsoup package available anywhere?
Dec 27 14:13:27 <bencoh> and/or is it included in any cssu variant?
Dec 27 14:13:35 <freemangordon> bencoh: I didn't look how it is decoded, but judging by the ok video, I'd say it is HW decoded, at least for youtube
Dec 27 14:13:57 <freemangordon> bencoh: sources are in debian, I just repackaged it for maemo
Dec 27 14:14:04 <freemangordon> also, on my PC
Dec 27 14:14:04 <bencoh> oh, okay
Dec 27 14:14:15 <freemangordon> do you want it?
Dec 27 14:14:47 <bencoh> well, I never say no to sources, so ... if possible, yes please :)
Dec 27 14:14:59 <freemangordon> well, do you need them now?
Dec 27 14:15:05 <bencoh> no, nothing urgent
Dec 27 14:15:35 <bencoh> I installed your package meanwhile, and it fixed a long-standing gstreamer/soup/https bug here ...
Dec 27 14:15:48 <freemangordon> yes, I know
Dec 27 14:15:54 <bencoh> :)
Dec 27 14:16:25 <freemangordon> it fixes gst-http (or whatever it was called) playback
Dec 27 14:16:28 <bencoh> back then I tried to enable gnutls support, but somehow failed at it ... now I understand why :)
Dec 27 14:16:31 <bencoh> yeah
Dec 27 14:16:43 <bencoh> well, gsthttps
Dec 27 14:16:49 <freemangordon> :nod:
Dec 27 14:21:17 <bencoh> well, that means my tiny gst/gtk player can still be used as a companion player for cutetube, yay :)
Dec 27 14:21:34 <CatButts> wuzzat?
Dec 27 14:21:45 <CatButts> the package
Dec 27 14:21:59 <bencoh> ?
Dec 27 14:22:13 <CatButts> [16:21] <bencoh> my tiny gst/gtk player
Dec 27 14:22:31 <bencoh> ah, I never released it - I wanted to clean something first
Dec 27 14:22:39 <bencoh> and maybe add some flesh to it
Dec 27 14:23:04 <CatButts> I am curious, none the less
Dec 27 14:24:00 <KotCzarny> bencoh, keep it simple, and you have a winner if it works :)
Dec 27 14:30:05 <bencoh> at least it doesn't show any tearing (unlike cutetube), and avoids the mafw bugs
Dec 28 00:28:00 * timeless looks for someone who understands systemd :-(
Dec 28 00:35:08 * varu hands timeless a pristine copy of goldie's 1995 album bearing their nick, a pie, a carton of eggs, several rolls of toilet paper, and poettering's home address
Dec 28 00:40:47 <timeless> thanks...
Dec 28 00:41:09 * timeless goes off to figure out why a directory that only needed 40GB on one volume needed 50+GB on another
Dec 28 00:41:43 <timeless> oh
Dec 28 00:41:45 <timeless> doh.
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