**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Feb 22 03:00:05 2018 Feb 22 05:39:52 timeless: I thought that karmic is Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala (not LTS), not Debian. Feb 22 05:40:39 brolin_empey: oops, yes, ubuntu Feb 22 05:40:48 i was using it to mean "dpkg/apt based" Feb 22 05:41:09 and the reason for 9.10 is to have a kernel that's roughly equivalent to centos so that it would bootstrap safely Feb 22 05:41:22 once i successfully boot to it, i'm going to distupgrade to the present Feb 22 05:42:14 specifically, i'll take it to ubuntu artful, and then when bionic comes along, i'll move over to that and switch to LTS Feb 22 05:42:21 (assuming this computer lasts that long) Feb 22 05:42:43 my only concern is safely booting into it Feb 22 05:42:53 the only remote button i have is "reboot" Feb 22 05:43:30 so, i need grub to be able to: (1) safely boot centos. (2) failing to boot ubuntu, boot centos. (3) boot ubuntu Feb 22 05:43:35 timeless: OK. I used Ubuntu 9.10 when it was current. Feb 22 05:45:36 The concept of change requires time but you are timeless, heh. Feb 22 05:45:58 I think I used warty hoary breezy dapper edgy feisty gutsy hardy. I don't think I used things from there until perhaps precise Feb 22 05:46:02 * timeless nods Feb 22 05:46:27 (and I don't think I used precise much) Feb 22 05:48:41 yeah, that's about right, because I played w/ ubuntu when I was in California, and a bit @nokia, but mostly I was using OSol / Nexenta, when I went to BB, I justed used macOS/Windows Feb 22 05:49:05 * timeless is quite comfortable using a time machine Feb 22 05:49:18 :) Feb 22 05:49:40 If the universe will eventually die from heat, will anything about which a mortal can possibly care matter in the end? Feb 22 05:52:22 A time machine is used to produce Time magazine? ;-) Feb 22 05:54:27 DocScrutinizer05: I cannot access http://wiki.openmoko.org/ : the connection times out. Has the Openmoko infrastructure finally gone offline? Feb 22 05:56:06 server seems to have intermittent issues Feb 22 05:56:31 brolin_empey: xouls you /join #openmoko-cdevel please? Feb 22 05:56:40 could* Feb 22 05:59:42 DocScrutinizer05: I could but I only wanted to see if that page said if a Nokia BL-4J or BL-5J battery can be used for the Openmoko GTA02. Feb 22 06:03:11 I can't manage administrative requests in a OT channel Feb 22 06:08:35 brolin_empey: http://web.archive.org/web/20171207075008/http://wiki.openmoko.org/ ? Feb 22 06:08:58 (time machines are my specialty) Feb 22 06:20:54 timeless: No, https://web.archive.org/web/20170810141023/http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Battery_Questions_and_Answers . It does not mention BL-xJ , only BL-xC. Feb 22 06:22:05 > Do other BL-5/6C compatible batteries fit? Feb 22 06:22:05 > If the battery is thicker than BL-6C, you won't be able to close the back cover. Nokia's BL-4C is a bit thinner than the BL-5C so it also fits, but has noticeably shorter battery life. Feb 22 06:25:49 http://www.cpkb.org/wiki/Nokia_BL-4J_battery / http://www.cpkb.org/wiki/Nokia_BL-6C_battery ? Feb 22 06:29:01 nfc what's wrong with this server Feb 22 06:31:00 takes aaaaages to load pages, though the load is negligible. Must be HDD Feb 22 06:31:27 I got no root access, so sorry Feb 22 06:33:32 me glares at >> 4840 www-data 20 0 235M 58184 8096 S 0.0 0.4 1:09.34 /usr/bin/python /space/www/admin-trac/cgi-bin/trac.fcgi << Feb 22 06:34:18 and mysql, and some "planet" shit **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Feb 22 07:39:31 2018 Feb 22 07:45:32 gosh http://paste.opensuse.org/27677433 Feb 22 07:46:04 not bad Feb 22 07:46:13 * timeless did a resync w/in the last couple of months Feb 22 07:46:19 but brings the system to a grinding halt Feb 22 07:46:28 well, yeah, welcome to mdstat Feb 22 07:46:38 from memory, zfs resilvers are less terrible Feb 22 07:49:36 wait, dafaq, what??? md2 not mounted?! :-o Feb 22 07:50:02 is that normal Feb 22 07:50:04 ? Feb 22 07:50:58 timeless: http://paste.opensuse.org/71235395 Feb 22 07:51:11 md0 missing as well Feb 22 07:51:36 maybe Feb 22 07:51:41 can you check fstab to see what it would be? Feb 22 07:51:53 some things won't mount until they're happy Feb 22 07:52:23 md0 = swap Feb 22 07:52:24 what is 9fd9385d-b2f8-4a6e-b675-75ddf654ea9b ? Feb 22 07:52:37 already did check fstab :-) Feb 22 07:52:39 lsblk --whatevermagic Feb 22 07:52:53 no, i mean, is it md2? Feb 22 07:53:01 lsblk --whatevermagic Feb 22 07:53:24 lsblk -f Feb 22 07:54:04 fwiw, this is the system i'm using tonight https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/MKstUbNS/ Feb 22 07:54:29 * timeless hasn't seen reall mpath's before Feb 22 07:55:08 lol, -f is like --terse here Feb 22 07:55:33 the lsblk arguments really vary from version to version Feb 22 07:55:34 http://paste.opensuse.org/76028129 Feb 22 07:55:50 try again, findn the flag to get uuids Feb 22 07:56:04 oh, nevermind Feb 22 07:56:13 i'm right, md2 = the uuid = / Feb 22 07:56:25 these days, it's common to mount / by uuid Feb 22 07:56:36 so even if it's raid, you wouldn't see it by dev Feb 22 07:57:06 some of my office computers have that behavior Feb 22 07:57:27 and mdfsckme umounts the raid and mounts one sd* instead? Feb 22 07:57:31 eventually i'm going to rebuild those systems w/ zfs-root and move on w/ life Feb 22 07:57:41 no Feb 22 07:57:47 `/` is mounted Feb 22 07:57:56 it's just mounted by uuid Feb 22 07:58:36 for example https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/WaR8Chl8/fstab Feb 22 07:59:03 aaah boot mounts a device, no md Feb 22 07:59:16 of course Feb 22 08:00:18 well, at least that would be plausible Feb 22 08:00:25 fwiw, this system here is using lvm, not mdstat, but the same general idea Feb 22 08:00:43 * timeless is too lazy to ssh to an office computer which actually has mdstat for root or boot or whatever Feb 22 08:01:41 OHMY! [=================>...] check = 88.1% (946055296/1073740664) finish=100.8min speed=21101K/sec Feb 22 08:02:06 meh! [=================>...] check = 88.3% (948535936/1073740664) finish=34.5min speed=60333K/sec Feb 22 08:04:35 yeah, the numbers were pretty random for my rebuild Feb 22 08:04:44 https://ci.blueocean.io/blue/organizations/jenkins/blueocean/detail/PR-1664/9/pipeline/48/ Feb 22 08:05:00 my current adventure is typing random bits of java and trying to convince a random builder to build it Feb 22 08:05:44 (and i do mean that, this computer doesn't have javac, and i'm not going to waste my time setting it up) Feb 22 08:06:05 It's a nice computer though! https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/VOX8scww/ Feb 22 08:11:12 'bry :) Feb 22 08:21:06 http://paste.opensuse.org/35609304 :-/ Feb 22 08:21:10 swap Feb 22 21:57:45 ~ping Feb 22 21:57:46 ~pong Feb 22 22:22:53 ~pong Feb 22 22:22:53 ping, or also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_video_game **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Feb 23 03:00:01 2018