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Feb 24 03:01:54 <Juesto> repositories for maemo sdk 4.1 diablo "install" link is 404
Feb 24 03:02:23 <Juesto> actually nvm about repository.maemo.org working with leste
Feb 24 04:04:52 <Juesto> neat
Feb 24 04:04:57 <Juesto> i just installed bora and diablo sdk
Feb 24 04:06:16 <Juesto> ran diablo
Feb 24 04:06:19 <Juesto> but seems bora doesnt run
Feb 24 04:13:09 <Juesto> how do i rename targets
Feb 24 04:14:53 <Juesto> in scratchbox that is
Feb 24 04:31:06 <Juesto> hello? oh well
Feb 24 05:42:55 <Juesto> so
Feb 24 05:43:08 <Juesto> this is what i get when launching bora sdk
Feb 24 05:43:19 <Juesto> Starting Maemo Launcher: maemo-launchermaemo-launcher: died loading booster module: 'libjpeg.so.62: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory' start failed.
Feb 24 05:43:19 <Juesto> Starting Sapwood image server
Feb 24 05:43:19 <Juesto> sapwood-server[3479]: GLIB INFO default - server started
Feb 24 05:43:21 <Juesto> Starting Matchbox window manager
Feb 24 05:43:23 <Juesto> matchbox: WARNING: failed to load /usr/share/matchbox/mbnoapp.xpm . Disabling icons.
Feb 24 05:43:25 <Juesto> matchbox: failed to load keyboard config
Feb 24 05:43:27 <Juesto> :/
Feb 24 05:43:36 <Juesto> (just the relevant part of errors)
Feb 24 05:46:58 <Juesto> Diablo is very minimal btw
Feb 24 11:31:33 <sicelo> bencoh: i believe i got patched mupdf from you ... mind sharing your patches to make it receive keyboard input instaed of that going into xterm?
Feb 24 11:33:04 <sicelo> I am using Maemo Leste , and  the devuan one also does not get input. surf2 also has the same issue
Feb 24 14:31:55 <pkill9> is it possible to run newer android on nokia n900?
Feb 24 14:33:11 <sicelo> most probably not. why?
Feb 24 14:35:12 <KotCzarny> because he is too cheap to buy some second hand android phone
Feb 24 14:35:30 <KotCzarny> and clueless what is n900's target audience
Feb 24 14:37:47 <pkill9> thanks KotCzarny
Feb 24 14:38:38 <Juesto> lol
Feb 24 14:38:52 <KotCzarny> basically android is not worth it on n900, lack of drivers
Feb 24 14:39:05 <KotCzarny> which means you are left with mostly tablet like functionality
Feb 24 14:39:19 <KotCzarny> and that is better server by any kitkat era phone
Feb 24 14:39:39 <pkill9> i should find a moto g5 phone
Feb 24 14:45:06 <pkill9> i just found one with a cracked screen but otherwise fully functional for like 30 pounds, might get that and then  in the future replace the screen
Feb 24 14:46:06 <KotCzarny> *served
Feb 24 14:47:40 <pkill9> screw it, i'm just gonna run an emulator
Feb 24 14:47:46 <KotCzarny> lol
Feb 24 14:48:06 <pkill9> ther'es only a few communication apps i want to use that's only available on smartphones
Feb 24 14:57:04 <pkill9> apparently you can convert APKs to chrome extensions https://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/run-android-apps-on-linux/
Feb 24 15:04:18 <sicelo> pkill9: whatsapp, and what else?
Feb 24 15:17:41 <pkill9> mostly just that, possibly snapchat, and possibly tinder
Feb 24 15:19:32 <Wizzup> we plan to add anbox to leste
Feb 24 15:20:28 <siceloML> wonder how that will run on N900 though :-)
Feb 24 15:20:30 <Juesto> lol
Feb 24 15:23:09 <Wizzup> siceloML: just as well as normal android would, without the driver problems ;)
Feb 24 15:23:35 <siceloML> :-)
Feb 24 15:23:57 <siceloML> won't N900 CPU & RAM be unequal to the task?
Feb 24 15:24:36 <Juesto> well... siceloML, why do you think scratchbox was there for?
Feb 24 15:25:02 <Juesto> oops wrong chat
Feb 24 15:25:10 <siceloML> :p
Feb 24 15:39:23 <Juesto> lol fremantle sdk broke :(
Feb 24 15:39:57 <sicelo> wha happened
Feb 24 15:41:10 <Juesto> weird stuff
Feb 24 15:41:14 <Juesto> clock stopped working properly
Feb 24 15:41:19 <Juesto> and timezone
Feb 24 15:41:23 <Juesto> also known bug
Feb 24 15:41:26 <Juesto> when you switch themes
Feb 24 15:41:35 <Juesto> you cant access desktop menu's menu anymore
Feb 24 15:42:49 <Juesto> i had to restart it to get the desktop menu working again
Feb 24 15:43:27 <Juesto> sigh
Feb 24 16:17:32 <Juesto> well, until qt is ready, enjoying a very basic black and white calculator lol
Feb 24 16:21:10 <pkill9> emulating android is far easier than i thought/remember
Feb 24 16:38:43 <Juesto> heh
Feb 24 19:05:25 <KotCzarny> yes. in 1.3.3
Feb 24 19:05:29 <KotCzarny> erm, wrong chan
Feb 24 20:46:21 <Vajb> android works well enough in VM
Feb 24 20:49:00 <Vajb> have also Lineageos in galaxy tab2, but some apps run a bit slow in it. I guess 1ghz dualcore isn't enough...
Feb 24 22:34:23 <bencoh> sicelo: http://cgit.notk.org/bencoh/mupdf.git/log/?h=maemo-1.6
Feb 24 22:38:59 <Wizzup> sweet
Feb 24 22:39:07 <Wizzup> should rebase that on top of master *hint*
Feb 24 22:41:42 <DocScrutinizer05> bencoh: watsdat?
Feb 24 22:52:59 <Wizzup> mupdf is a pdf rendering library and client
Feb 24 22:58:37 <bencoh> Wizzup: I tried rebasing my work on top of 1.9 back when it was released, and iirc it resulted in segv (apart from packaging and deps issues)
Feb 24 22:58:52 <bencoh> I haven't dwelved into it since then
Feb 24 22:59:08 <bencoh> but yeah, definitely
Feb 24 23:00:26 <Wizzup> I have had segfaults in mupdf when it renders a picture and opengl is disabled
Feb 24 23:03:36 <bencoh> Well, clearly I can't enable opengl here :)
Feb 24 23:03:56 <bencoh> not without a a shim at least (gl4es or glshim)
Feb 24 23:04:40 <bencoh> (which reminds me I tried building gl4es for maemo but I didn't have any luck thus far)
Feb 24 23:29:18 <Wizzup> bencoh: I built it on leste but it failed somewhere during init
Feb 24 23:36:54 <bencoh> Wizzup: gl4es or mupdf?
Feb 24 23:36:58 <Wizzup> gl4es
Feb 24 23:38:15 <bencoh> we should ask ptitSeb about it (usually he hangs around pyra's chan when online)
Feb 25 01:25:08 <Sveta> hi
Feb 25 01:27:08 <Sveta> what hildon based web browsers does maemo have other than dillo?
Feb 25 01:42:02 <DocScrutinizer05> hi Sveta :-)
Feb 25 01:43:11 <DocScrutinizer05> maemo's default browser (obviously hildion based) is microB
Feb 25 01:45:48 <Sveta> is it possible to disable javascript in microb?
Feb 25 01:46:27 <Sveta> it's being slowish, perhaps because of that
Feb 25 01:52:39 <pkill9> yeah it's possible
Feb 25 01:52:49 <Sveta> how do you do that?
Feb 25 01:53:27 <Sveta> hi DocScrutinizer05 and pkill9 by the way :-)
Feb 25 01:53:56 <DocScrutinizer05> hi!
Feb 25 01:53:59 <Juesto> Interesting
Feb 25 01:54:15 <Juesto> MicroB is midori based, right?
Feb 25 01:54:23 <DocScrutinizer05> you do it like in firefox iirc: "about:"
Feb 25 01:54:51 <Juesto> Should a noscript extension for firefox 3.6 work? DocScrutinizer05?
Feb 25 01:55:21 <DocScrutinizer05> I don't know, I never looked into browsers closely
Feb 25 01:55:22 <pkill9> hi :>
Feb 25 01:55:50 <Sveta> ok
Feb 25 01:56:14 <Juesto> sveta has me ignored
Feb 25 01:56:59 <DocScrutinizer05> https://wiki.maemo.org/MicroB_tweaks
Feb 25 01:57:00 <Juesto> i should try it on SDK
Feb 25 01:57:19 <Juesto> only maemo 4 it says
Feb 25 01:57:27 <Juesto> so yeah
Feb 25 01:57:29 <Sveta> great thanks DocScrutinizer05
Feb 25 01:57:36 <Juesto> its like standard firefox, Oksana
Feb 25 01:58:22 <DocScrutinizer05> >>To change the others open the URL about:config in MicroB to edit them one-by-one<<
Feb 25 01:58:32 <Sveta> great
Feb 25 01:59:15 <DocScrutinizer05> MicroB getting dog slow on adbockers is a known issue
Feb 25 02:05:46 <Juesto> hmm
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