**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jun 12 03:00:05 2018 Jun 12 06:05:22 Damn, I can't find any instructions on how to rebuild scratchbox (which I want to do to update some stuff for SSH), I can find the Scratchbox source code and I can find plenty of binaries but no instructions on how to actually rebuild it the way I need to :( Jun 12 06:12:09 rebuild parts you need then Jun 12 06:12:15 might be easier for you Jun 12 06:25:47 I cant find how to rebuild just SSH either Jun 12 06:26:01 the ssh binary is part of scratchbox-core Jun 12 06:26:06 so I need to rebuild all of that package Jun 12 06:34:25 jonwil : Is this relevent? https://wiki.maemo.org/Icecream_Scratchbox_Howto#Compiling_icecc sbox > ./configure --prefix=/scratchbox/tools Jun 12 06:34:30 relevant * Jun 12 06:35:00 No, thats for compiling icecc (whatever that is) for use with Scratchbox Jun 12 06:35:20 I need instructions for rebuilding Scratchbox itself (which dont seem to exist, even in the docs on scratchbox.org) Jun 12 06:37:06 No information on what build environment/prerequisites I need or where to get them and no information on how to actually build the thing :( Jun 12 06:54:33 jonwil : is installation of a scratchbox toolchain in any way similar to installation of scratchbox-core? http://www.mono-project.com/archived/scratchbox/ Jun 12 06:55:34 That's how you install scratchbox, not how you actually compile scratchbox-core (and scratchbox-libs and such) from the "scratchbox" source package) and get some .deb files out the other end. Jun 12 06:56:03 jonwil, maybe you should read about generic scratchbox compilation? it's not only maemo's thing Jun 12 06:56:18 I cant find anything generic either Jun 12 06:56:42 I can't find anything anywhere on scratchbox.org or google that explains how you compile the "scratchbox" source package Jun 12 06:57:54 I would have felt easier if I saw source packages in debian format, and not in tarball format. Jun 12 06:58:23 The tarball has a debian folder inside it Jun 12 06:58:57 dpkg-buildpackage just says "cannot open `debian/changelog' for reading" Jun 12 06:59:09 so clearly there is some other step you need to do which isn't documented anywhere Jun 12 06:59:11 jonwil : check permissions? Jun 12 06:59:21 the file doesn't exist Jun 12 06:59:43 there is a debian/changelog.in file though Jun 12 06:59:49 Doesn't exist... How can a changelog not exist? Jun 12 06:59:55 so presumably something else translates that into debian/changelog from elsewhere Jun 12 06:59:58 autoconf -vif ? Jun 12 07:00:22 It looks like it takes the changelog from the version history of the repo (its a repo from something called darcs apparently) Jun 12 07:02:44 Or possibly from somewhere else Jun 12 07:09:35 tarball is confusing, I do not even see debian folder in it Jun 12 07:10:52 I dont know what you are looking at but http://www.scratchbox.org/download/files/sbox-releases/hathor/src/ clearly has a debian folder inside the scratchbox-1.0.25.tar.gz file Jun 12 07:11:28 Huh... I was looking at /tarball/, not /src/. One moment... Jun 12 07:14:32 well actually I pulled my tree from http://scratchbox.org/repos/1.0/scratchbox/ which supplies version 1.0.26 of Scratchbox rather than the 1.0.25 version Jun 12 07:14:43 I want 1.0.26 since that's what is installed on my system Jun 12 07:15:24 changelog.in sounds exactly like a changelog, except for variable. Jun 12 07:19:39 Going by rules, make has to be invoked. And this make, when asked for binary-arch, invokes dh_builddeb. Jun 12 07:21:21 Putting the whole "turn changelog.in into changelog" routine inside "rules" file sounds ugly. Ugly like a wall of text in IRC. Jun 12 07:23:02 Nice line >>@echo "Use the ./build script to build Scratchbox!"<< Jun 12 07:23:16 Ok, that's useful Jun 12 07:23:33 Just reading the Makefile ;-) Jun 12 07:25:50 It's like walking backwards, and using reflective surfaces in front of you to see terrain behind you - and dramatic "!!" exclamation points. At least, build script is talkative. Jun 12 07:27:18 Running it gives me a bunch of "missing packages" none of which exist in the repos currently set up in my VM Jun 12 07:28:05 Which packages? Are they available somewhere else? Jun 12 07:28:18 Those repos being "ubuntu lucid", "scratchbox hathor" and something to do with garage Jun 12 07:29:47 https://pastebin.com/FWR7GC8K is the errors I get Jun 12 07:30:20 you need older distro Jun 12 07:30:21 ehehehe Jun 12 07:30:35 try something from 2009 era Jun 12 07:30:56 gcc 3.3 Jun 12 07:30:56 lol Jun 12 07:30:59 ;) Jun 12 07:31:36 well, at least its not 2.96 ;) Jun 12 07:31:38 you should try running that on a debootstrap of debian squeeze maybe Jun 12 07:32:11 Daunting. I used to have Firefox 1 installed somewhere, that's ancient. But a whole ancient distribution... Jun 12 07:32:46 i should still have the CDs i bought from some online site of Debian Potato :) Jun 12 07:33:02 * KotCzarny has redhat 3.0.3 cds somewhere Jun 12 07:33:06 and debian 2 Jun 12 07:33:23 * Oksana would have hoped that with backwards compatibility and what not, it's possible to adapt scratchbox-core to compiling with the latest gcc and such Jun 12 07:36:00 Unfortunately, while the latest gcc may make scratchbox faster (at least on modern processors), it would also probably make scratchbox more bloated? Just guessing, now idea how gcc and others changed since then. Jun 12 07:36:09 no * idea Jun 12 07:38:07 i would say more buggy Jun 12 07:38:08 :) Jun 12 07:38:23 it was abandoned in 2010 in favor of sb2 Jun 12 07:38:38 * Oksana thinks that an auto-builder for scratchbox packages would be a nice idea... It would probably need a total isolation between ancient packages necessary for building scratchbox packages, and new packages needed for converting /src/ to /deb/ Jun 12 07:38:53 imo, whole maemo build infra should just move to arm server/native compilation Jun 12 07:38:58 Hmm, what's the difference between scratchbox and sb2 ? Jun 12 07:39:02 there are fast enough arm boards available Jun 12 07:40:56 KotCzarny : probably. It would be easier to do by setting up auto-builder for leste on an ARM server first , and then expanding to older maemo distributions. Jun 12 07:41:33 in my understanding sb1 runs as a chroot/qemu vm, sb2 is more like cross-compiler (system wise) Jun 12 07:43:30 The basic problem I have right now is that the scratchbox ssh binary (and openssl lib it uses) is so outdated it can't talk to github anymore. Jun 12 07:43:54 jonwil: just replace binary? Jun 12 07:43:57 Hence the desire to rebuild scratchbox-core (and through that the scratchbox ssh binary) with a newer openssl Jun 12 07:44:20 Its not a plain vanilla binary, the scratchbox build system does something special Jun 12 07:44:34 that's why i asked for maemo specific patches for sbox/ssh Jun 12 07:45:01 and yes, sb will happily run arm binaries, just slower Jun 12 07:45:32 if you just need ssh for github access it might be easier path Jun 12 07:46:03 why do you want for scratchbox to talk to github? Jun 12 07:46:21 I want to be able to pull git repos inside scratchbox Jun 12 07:46:33 i would just do it from the outside Jun 12 07:46:36 less of a hassle it seems Jun 12 07:47:17 jonwil, then just compile newer ssh statically and put somewhere in the inside path Jun 12 07:47:48 Looks like moving the host scratchbox ssh out of the way and then using the openssh-client package installed into Scratchbox allows gitlab to work Jun 12 07:48:11 the one compiled for ARM Jun 12 07:49:03 So for now I think I am good. Jun 12 07:51:30 The good thing about experimenting with this is that I was able to find the right magic to wire the dev VM itself (i.e. not the Scratchbox root) up to the correct Ubuntu archives so I can apt-get things for ubuntu now (as well as the SB chroot) Jun 12 07:51:34 So that's good. Jun 12 07:52:53 My ubuntu dev VM is now as up-to-date as its possible to get for a Lucid install :) Jun 12 07:53:29 maemo: i personally just hacked sb1 a bit into working minimal chroot i can run on arm board Jun 12 07:53:39 so i can compile natively Jun 12 07:53:52 (also on n900, but that's a side effect) Jun 12 07:55:03 I seriously doubt my poor little N900 could compile something as large as QT... Jun 12 07:55:33 i remember i took a couple hours or something like that on a i7 with 16gb of ram Jun 12 07:55:41 *it took Jun 12 07:55:55 jonwil: get 2gb orange pi +2e Jun 12 07:55:59 :) Jun 12 07:56:17 for fun and kicks Jun 12 07:56:19 Why would I do that when I have a perfectly good Ubuntu dev VM :) Jun 12 07:56:33 for arm freedom, ofc Jun 12 07:56:42 from great x86 oppression! Jun 12 07:58:51 KotCzarny : Good point, but I don't particularly like Raspberry Pi. It has HDMI port... Jun 12 07:59:23 no, rpi is bad hardware, the only good thing about it is big community, everything else is marketing Jun 12 08:00:40 I wish someone would make something that has all the functionality and features of the pi except without all the proprietary Broadcomm crap required Jun 12 08:00:51 jonwil, they do Jun 12 08:00:55 just google around Jun 12 08:01:02 arm boards market is growing fast Jun 12 08:01:29 KotCzarny : Any board in particular to have a look at? Jun 12 08:01:36 broadcom is as bad as qualcomm, they run machine in a machine Jun 12 08:01:52 oksana: it all depends what you need it for Jun 12 08:02:21 your question is kind 'what computer to have a look at' Jun 12 08:02:41 different one for cad, for gaming, for multimedia, for mobility, etc Jun 12 08:03:18 isn't the pi 3d open source now? Jun 12 08:04:11 wizzup, you still get videocore managing you from above Jun 12 08:04:21 KotCzarny : Small ARM board that can run modern Linux, and work like a mobile/pocket battery-based phone/assistant (wireless connectivity can be USB-attachable, instead of hard-wired) Jun 12 08:05:12 sounds like most arm boards Jun 12 08:05:17 oksana: look at c.h.i.p. with the case its nice form factor and pretty complete for mobility Jun 12 08:05:46 it's only single core, but if you dont demand fast web browsing it should do Jun 12 08:05:51 I got PocketChip, but too lazy to actually open and use it. And the company making CHIP has gone into insolvency since then. Jun 12 08:06:10 sure, but chip uses quite well reverseengineered software Jun 12 08:06:22 so you can do practically anything with it Jun 12 08:06:58 Will probably get around to actually configuring PocketChip somewhen. But currently, just shudder at thought of using Google Chrome to flash firmware onto PocketChip. Jun 12 08:07:34 lol Jun 12 08:07:40 then just learn what it does Jun 12 08:07:57 unless it has nand instead of emmc Jun 12 08:08:18 then you can just run it off sdcard and use dd to write firmware, or install os Jun 12 08:08:39 The TI OMAP found in the N900 is a pretty good chip. The GPU needs binary blobs but they aren't 100% essential, can be replaced with a FOSS driver if such a thing ever exists and are fully under the control of the user (the kernel-bits are 100% FOSS for example) Jun 12 08:09:29 hmm, it has nand, oh well, a bit trickier, but still doable Jun 12 08:10:40 Trickier, as in, use SD card for Chrome-free flashing? Jun 12 08:11:24 tickier as in legacy kernel nand driver and mainline kernel nand driver are different and incompatible Jun 12 08:11:33 *trickier Jun 12 09:55:55 hello/ what is the best use for a n900 with broken usb port? Jun 12 09:58:19 gift for a skilled developer Jun 12 10:03:56 N900 fly Jun 12 10:05:42 can the port be fixed? Jun 12 10:05:48 yes Jun 12 10:05:53 but not by novices Jun 12 10:07:17 i wish n900 had 512MB Jun 12 10:07:40 is someone in germany who fixes usb? Jun 12 10:08:13 yes, any gsm repair shop Jun 12 10:08:24 but better go to bigger/more renowned ones Jun 12 10:08:34 gsm? Jun 12 10:08:35 shabby work can make matters worse Jun 12 10:08:40 gsm as in cellphone Jun 12 10:08:43 or tablet Jun 12 10:08:44 ok Jun 12 10:09:24 i still have one with good usb Jun 12 10:09:35 should i epoxy it, or is that useless? Jun 12 10:10:45 ~usbfix Jun 12 10:10:46 methinks usbfix is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75920 - and **NEVER** use epoxy (unless you want to seal your device for underwater), or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYz5nIHH0iY#t=1866, you will basically need two irons: a small good one (or better hot-air reflow) and a 60+ Watt, or to avoid breakage, see ~usb-unplug Jun 12 10:12:17 ty Jun 12 10:13:17 is n900 basically only good for non-javascript browsing now? Jun 12 10:13:44 yup. you can use old fennec (firefox 17 for mobile) to get more sites working Jun 12 10:13:56 still, not much you can do with limited ram Jun 12 10:13:57 ty Jun 12 10:14:23 keep in mind fennec will be slow, but if you only need something clicked etc might be enough Jun 12 10:14:55 currently jonwil tries to update microb engine to support tls1.2 etc Jun 12 10:14:58 mhm Jun 12 10:15:04 wow Jun 12 10:15:40 i am chatting on droid 4 with sailfish now Jun 12 10:15:56 but maemo on droid 4 would be fun Jun 12 10:16:14 there is some work done in that direction Jun 12 10:16:19 see maemo-leste Jun 12 10:16:59 it's far from even beta yet, but .. Jun 12 10:17:52 would the n900 binaries run without recompiling on the omap4? Jun 12 10:18:12 depends on os Jun 12 10:18:21 with maemo-leste Jun 12 10:19:41 might Jun 12 10:20:16 so both are eh, armhf right Jun 12 10:20:21 no Jun 12 10:20:41 fremantle is using armel Jun 12 10:21:05 oh i haver armv7l Jun 12 10:21:34 armel vs armhf is about how libs and floating point are used Jun 12 10:21:54 both are for arm7l too Jun 12 10:22:57 how do i see if my sailfish is armel Jun 12 10:23:16 ldd maybe Jun 12 10:24:32 or dpkg -l |grep something Jun 12 10:24:38 k Jun 12 11:13:37 I ried n900 again. i cant go back to that keyboard. Jun 12 11:15:15 and xt894 has 4x cpu, 4x ram Jun 12 11:22:15 too bad maemo-leste doesn't run very well on it yet Jun 12 11:23:46 61 Jun 12 11:23:48 woops Jun 12 11:23:49 61 Jun 12 11:23:57 damnit. my ctrl-key is broken is smth. moment Jun 12 11:34:34 tom13: the droid4 keyboard isn't as nice as the n900 keyboard, yeah Jun 12 11:34:46 dreamer: on n900 or droid (or both?:P) Jun 12 11:35:02 whatOA Jun 12 11:35:09 Wizzup: I think he means other way around Jun 12 11:35:14 droid 4 is so much better Jun 12 11:35:15 and I meant droid4 Jun 12 11:35:31 :) Jun 12 11:35:32 on the droid4 I miss keys all the time even though I do press them Jun 12 11:35:50 oh i have one droid4 with that problem Jun 12 11:36:08 swapped the mainboard Jun 12 11:36:15 s/have/had/ Jun 12 11:36:32 missed keypresses are unforgiveable Jun 12 11:36:41 never have that on my n900 Jun 12 11:37:04 I think I might have it on both droids, but didn't test that proeprly Jun 12 11:37:08 I mostlu use my n900 Jun 12 11:37:34 i still liked the maemo days best Jun 12 11:37:52 :) Jun 12 11:38:09 I only use my n900 for calls/text/alarm/music/terminal Jun 12 11:38:18 the rest doesn't really work well. but I don't need much else from a 'phone' anyway Jun 12 11:38:22 a free n900 from nokia made it even funner Jun 12 11:38:51 dual core and more ram would maybe make browsing functional Jun 12 11:38:52 yeh n900 fm transmitter is very nice for me, car has no bluetooth Jun 12 11:38:56 :) Jun 12 11:39:46 i think kernel 4.14 fixed the large file copy hangup that n900 had Jun 12 11:40:18 you ever copy a 600MB iso to n900 microsd? Jun 12 11:40:34 are you talking about linux cache? Jun 12 11:40:39 yes Jun 12 11:44:24 kill -STOP cp .. kill -CONT cp .. Jun 12 11:44:38 s/kill/killall/ Jun 12 11:44:38 Maxdamantus meant: killall -STOP cp .. kill -CONT cp .. Jun 12 11:44:55 s/$/g/ Jun 12 11:45:25 'sync' ? Jun 12 11:45:39 sync doesn't help. Jun 12 11:45:53 unless you mean as an option to `dd` Jun 12 11:46:24 sync(2) basically just means "wait until the writes before now have been committed to disk" Jun 12 11:46:25 doesn't help with what Jun 12 11:46:38 slow IO can looks like hangups. Jun 12 11:46:39 with throttling the copy. Jun 12 11:46:48 did he ask on ow to do that? Jun 12 11:46:55 I'm confused Jun 12 11:48:09 I'm guessing he's referring to the behaviour where Linux will not block writes to slow devices until it runs out of memory for use by the disk cache. Jun 12 11:49:51 right Jun 12 11:50:05 so when copying a file from a fast device to a slow device, eventually you're going to end up with a system that won't be able to allocate/swap in pages until it has written some dirty pages to disk. Jun 12 11:50:56 right, so the way you need to solve that is by somehow blocking/throttling the writes in `cp` before the system gets into that state. Jun 12 11:51:11 which an external `sync(2)` doesn't do. Jun 12 11:51:47 since all `sync(2)` does is wait for pages that were dirty before the call to no longer be dirty. Jun 12 11:51:52 yeh and this got addressed in 4.14 i think Jun 12 11:52:00 surprising Jun 12 11:52:07 (and possibly also encourage the underlying filesystem to commit faster) Jun 12 11:52:50 thank you for the killall tip Jun 12 11:53:27 or rather -STOP / -CONT Jun 12 11:53:36 That's nice to know .. will try it soon. Jun 12 12:22:54 how did they address it then? Jun 12 12:42:39 I'm guessing it's due to the changes in 547248..aac8d4 Jun 12 12:46:02 though that was only merged into 4.15-rc1 Jun 12 16:38:29 my favorite quote of the day: "You don't even know what country i'm in. Much less which Kanton." :) Jun 12 17:03:32 :-) Jun 12 17:26:21 so i think maybe 4 n900s is too much for me Jun 12 17:26:34 just need 1-2 for reference/nostalgia Jun 12 17:26:38 anyone need one Jun 12 17:27:16 is it broken in any way? Jun 12 17:27:40 yea Jun 12 17:27:42 usb Jun 12 17:27:56 but with the right touch it charges Jun 12 17:30:51 sounds like fixable usb :) Jun 12 17:38:08 nokia 770, n810 and n900 will always be some of my happiest memories Jun 12 17:38:16 but i already burned out with n900 Jun 12 17:38:37 but i'm still alive, unlike... gary Jun 12 17:39:10 maybe someday we do a youtube or webpage dedicated to him Jun 12 17:39:13 and liqbase? Jun 12 17:39:47 you know lcuk Wizzup ? Jun 12 17:39:51 yeah Jun 12 17:39:58 he was a great dev Jun 12 17:40:48 you see Wizzup we had the 770 and 800 - tablets which used a desktop click and scrollbar metaphor Jun 12 17:41:14 some of the game/emu devs started figuring out how to blit graphics to n800 screen faster Jun 12 17:41:27 and lcuk had the idea, of scrolling the screen with the finger pulling Jun 12 17:41:33 instead of a menubar Jun 12 17:42:10 i'm not sure if he was the first ever to do that Jun 12 17:42:37 but he was the first to do it on maemo Jun 12 17:43:51 me and lcuk and somebody else were at a conference in brussels Jun 12 17:44:01 we had taken a hotel room together Jun 12 17:44:15 were walking around the redlight district. had a bunch of beers Jun 12 17:44:32 we got tired and went back but lcuk decided he wanted to visit ... one of the people there Jun 12 17:44:46 a few hours later he came back... "guys - i got mugged :(" Jun 12 17:45:17 i lost the pictures Jun 12 17:46:34 KotCzarny: you should learn to make fun shader effects for linux mobile Jun 12 17:46:56 i had my own part of pixel processing engine Jun 12 17:47:00 see 'osc' Jun 12 17:50:55 you never got into shaders?\ Jun 12 17:53:25 not the usual 3d accelerated ones Jun 12 17:58:26 o.o Jun 12 18:05:18 i did some 2d shader work Jun 12 18:05:26 filtering for emulators Jun 12 18:05:38 have you seen shadertoy.com KotCzarny ? Jun 12 18:05:57 i think i was browsing it few years ago Jun 12 18:06:17 personally i prefer my pixel engine Jun 12 18:06:33 it is more flexible Jun 12 18:06:47 more flexible than dynamically compiled c code? Jun 12 18:06:49 but it's like pulling a cart with a hamster when you have a horse standing there Jun 12 18:07:00 osc is more flexible than shaders Jun 12 18:07:17 yes, i can use any c code / device i would want Jun 12 18:07:31 yeh but it gets boring at 8-12 fps Jun 12 18:07:34 without any user recompilation, core does it all itself Jun 12 18:07:50 depends on the code Jun 12 18:08:06 can be ran at higher fps with different algos Jun 12 18:08:23 yeah nothing against osc Jun 12 18:08:25 it's fun Jun 12 18:08:31 just different target Jun 12 18:08:32 did you see it running on the Archos 80 tablet? Jun 12 18:09:04 shaders are generally graphics only enhancers Jun 12 18:09:29 osc is for doing whatever hardware allows Jun 12 18:09:30 there are branching limitations Jun 12 18:09:34 in shaders Jun 12 18:09:52 but a lot of the copy operations and blend operations in osc Jun 12 18:09:55 could be done in shaders Jun 12 18:10:26 you remember original idea was to do something like goom Jun 12 18:10:29 the clouds effect Jun 12 18:10:52 copy, transpose, blend Jun 12 18:11:10 blend is for fluff Jun 12 18:11:26 ok you can apply a function to r,g,b, values too Jun 12 18:11:26 originally osc was about mixing algo with user input Jun 12 18:11:28 so can shader Jun 12 18:11:36 so each frame would be recreated Jun 12 18:12:16 and also to visualize various graphics algos Jun 12 18:12:23 and learn Jun 12 18:12:58 do you run osc on pc sometimes? Jun 12 18:13:55 sometimes, was a long time. mostly i just play on n900 Jun 12 18:18:44 how many people in maemo were in it to prevent tyranny? 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Jun 12 20:08:50 glad you're here... Jun 12 20:08:57 :) Jun 12 20:09:19 :p Jun 12 20:09:20 /s Jun 12 20:16:03 slow though Jun 12 20:16:36 should act more trigger happy against ascii art and color Jun 13 01:57:05 Hi there Jun 13 01:57:21 is there a way for sending files by bluetooth from command line on n900? Jun 13 01:57:25 obexftp? Jun 13 01:57:37 or python script? Jun 13 02:07:17 I DID IT. Jun 13 02:07:27 I got TLS1.2 support into QT 4.7.4 on Maemo! Jun 13 02:40:23 \o/ nice jonwil Jun 13 02:41:54 Just need to finish uploading things :) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Jun 13 03:00:01 2018