**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jul 01 02:59:59 2018 Jul 01 23:32:44 Hello everyone. Can I use regular debian repository, with maemo? Jul 01 23:36:37 Kabouik Jul 01 23:36:40 Hello everyone. Can I use regular debian repository, with maemo? Jul 01 23:43:18 No you can't use a regular debian repository with Maemo Jul 01 23:43:47 Thanks Jul 01 23:44:09 What about lxde? Jul 01 23:44:58 Smalldebian or something like that Jul 01 23:47:14 Nope Jul 01 23:47:20 It has to be something built for Maemo Jul 01 23:48:13 Sorry, i meant easydebian Jul 01 23:48:16 pirla however, you can run Debian in chroot (including lxde) Jul 01 23:49:17 yes, easydebian is an image with debian chroot installed Jul 01 23:49:38 it seems, it was somewhere in maemo repositories Jul 01 23:49:41 thx Jul 01 23:50:31 Last question: i'm going to buy a Nokia n900, what's the latest available update? Jul 01 23:50:48 Date and name Jul 01 23:51:49 Do you mean software update? Jul 01 23:51:54 Yes Jul 01 23:52:28 there was CSSU (Communitu update). Not sure about the date. Also, there is Maemo leste project. They're trying to integrate maemo desktop (hildon) on top of Devuan. Devuan is Debian fork without systemd. Jul 01 23:53:19 So, it will be latest Linux kernel with usual Maemo user interface Jul 01 23:53:19 What's systemd? Jul 01 23:54:22 Updating an N900 in 2018 isn't the easiest thing to do. Maemo Leste isn't usable yet so ignore that for now. Jul 01 23:54:23 What's systemd? Jul 01 23:54:32 ~systemd Jul 01 23:54:33 systemd cabal: a bunch of people (Lennart Poettering, Kay Sievers, H. Hoyer, D. Mack, T. Gundersen, D. Herrmann) who want to turn linux into their wet dream perverted version of windows-me-too: http://0pointer.net/blog/revisiting-how-we-put-together-linux-systems.html -- Rumor has it that 2016 systemd will have replaced kernel. See ~nosystemd" Jul 01 23:54:53 ~nosystemd Jul 01 23:54:54 it has been said that nosystemd is https://devuan.org http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Arguments_against_systemd http://blog.darknedgy.net/technology/2015/10/11/0/ Jul 01 23:54:57 Cool Jul 01 23:55:09 Once you actually have the N900, I am sure people on here can help you update to the latest software version. Jul 01 23:55:19 Thanks guys, i'm leaving Jul 01 23:55:20 systemd is such overbloated version of UNIX init process. 1) Too big for Nokia N900 2) N900 uses its own init, it seems, based on busybox Jul 02 01:03:37 Hello everyone again. 2 questions: Jul 02 01:04:04 1 can i only use debian (no maemo)? Jul 02 01:04:35 2 does debian for maemo include phone/sms? Jul 02 01:05:20 Target device is Nokia n900 Jul 02 01:09:32 Or by the way, is it there any way to use eg gimp from maemo? Jul 02 01:10:33 The latter would be preferred Jul 02 01:14:04 A1? Jul 02 01:14:55 ~gimp Jul 02 01:14:56 methinks gimp is the scourge of the kompany, or an excellent image manipulation program. 2.0 is now stable and it has MANY, MANY improvements over the 1.x series. Pick it up NOW. *_GREAT_*! Jul 02 01:15:30 ~blender Jul 02 01:15:30 somebody said blender was Extremely fast and versatile 3D Rendering Package. URL: http://freshmeat.net/projects/blender/ Jul 02 01:20:13 Nevermind, correct me if I'm wrong, but using debian Jul 02 01:20:26 Sorry mistype Jul 02 01:21:31 I mean, installing easydebian should allow regular apps to be launched without the desktop, right? Jul 02 01:33:35 Nevermind. Found the answer: yes, but a .desktop file has to be written for each app Jul 02 01:33:55 https://wiki.maemo.org/Easy_Debian Jul 02 01:34:27 Can't wait to have my n900! **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Jul 02 03:00:00 2018