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Jul 11 08:30:20 <KotCzarny> hmm, weird
Jul 11 08:30:40 <KotCzarny> usb charger reported ~900mAh transferred
Jul 11 08:30:52 <KotCzarny> but battery monitor shows ~1220
Jul 11 08:31:23 <KotCzarny> nvm, 5v vs 3.7v
Jul 11 08:31:59 <KotCzarny> calculates just about right
Jul 11 12:35:31 <chem|st> Kabouik_: email techstaff, I have no access to our firewall
Jul 11 12:36:34 <bencoh> who has nowadays?
Jul 11 12:37:08 <chem|st> DocScrutinizer05: thanks for pointing out that it is me... I have nothing to do with out firewall
Jul 11 12:37:22 <chem|st> our
Jul 11 12:39:38 <KotCzarny> i guess factoid needs to be updated then
Jul 11 12:39:54 <chem|st> bencoh: nowadays? it is was and will be techstaff
Jul 11 12:40:13 <KotCzarny> ~literal unbanip
Jul 11 12:40:14 <infobot> "#maemo unbanip" is "please contact techstaff <at> maemo <dot> org with your request, or see ~techstaff, or see https://www.stopforumspam.com/removal, or contact tmo maintainer chem|st in here, or if your ip is dynamic, try changing it, or tags: RBL, tmo IP blocked, spam"
Jul 11 12:40:33 <KotCzarny> chem|st: but you are maintainer of tmo, no?
Jul 11 12:40:40 <chem|st> yeah, if I get contacted I point to techstaff
Jul 11 12:40:44 <KotCzarny> lol
Jul 11 12:41:50 <KotCzarny> infobot: "#maemo unbanip" is please contact techstaff <at> maemo <dot> org with your request, or see ~techstaff, or see https://www.stopforumspam.com/removal, or if your ip is dynamic, try changing it, or tags: RBL, tmo IP blocked, spam
Jul 11 12:41:51 <infobot> KotCzarny: what are you talking about?
Jul 11 12:41:55 <chem|st> the IP filter is firewall and prevents the trimesterial fallout IPHH was not amused
Jul 11 12:42:00 <KotCzarny> darn
Jul 11 12:42:19 <KotCzarny> whoever knows the syntax should update the factoid
Jul 11 12:43:03 <KotCzarny> infobot: #maemo unbanip is please contact techstaff <at> maemo <dot> org with your request, or see ~techstaff, or see https://www.stopforumspam.com/removal, or if your ip is dynamic, try changing it, or tags: RBL, tmo IP blocked, spam
Jul 11 12:43:04 <infobot> ...but #maemo unbanip is already something else...
Jul 11 12:43:20 <bencoh> :D
Jul 11 12:43:25 <bencoh> ~botsnack
Jul 11 12:43:25 <infobot> bencoh: aw, gee
Jul 11 12:43:29 <KotCzarny> infobot: no, #maemo unbanip is please contact techstaff <at> maemo <dot> org with your request, or see ~techstaff, or see https://www.stopforumspam.com/removal, or if your ip is dynamic, try changing it, or tags: RBL, tmo IP blocked, spam
Jul 11 12:43:30 <infobot> KotCzarny: okay
Jul 11 12:43:34 <KotCzarny> ~unbanip
Jul 11 12:43:35 <infobot> unbanip is, like, please contact techstaff <at> maemo <dot> org with your request, or see ~techstaff, or see https://www.stopforumspam.com/removal, or if your ip is dynamic, try changing it, or tags: RBL, tmo IP blocked, spam
Jul 11 12:43:37 <KotCzarny> done
Jul 11 12:43:50 <chem|st> infobot: forget #maemo unbanip
Jul 11 12:43:50 <infobot> chem|st: i forgot #maemo unbanip
Jul 11 12:44:03 <KotCzarny> heh
Jul 11 12:44:12 <chem|st> infobot: #maemo unbanip is please contact techstaff <at> maemo <dot> org with your request, or see ~techstaff, or see https://www.stopforumspam.com/removal, or if your ip is dynamic, try changing it, or tags: RBL, tmo IP blocked, spam
Jul 11 12:44:12 <infobot> okay, chem|st
Jul 11 12:44:22 <KotCzarny> bbl
Jul 11 12:44:28 <chem|st> ~unbanip
Jul 11 12:44:28 <infobot> methinks unbanip is please contact techstaff <at> maemo <dot> org with your request, or see ~techstaff, or see https://www.stopforumspam.com/removal, or if your ip is dynamic, try changing it, or tags: RBL, tmo IP blocked, spam
Jul 11 12:44:48 <chem|st> ~RBL
Jul 11 12:44:49 <infobot> rumour has it, rbl is Mail Abuse Prevention System (MAPS)'s Realtime Blackhole List, a system to identify likely origins of spam.  See http://mail-abuse.org/rbl/
Jul 11 12:47:06 <chem|st> if anyone has a working solution mail it to techstaff, if you have suggestions, keep'em - they don't work
Jul 11 12:49:27 <chem|st> other websites use services that cost money or do not have servers hosted themselves - anyone who ever maintained firewall hardware knows that you easily lockout too much and easily get the wrong stuff in if you do not kill all and let god sort them out
Jul 11 13:51:19 <user__> anyone here?
Jul 11 16:43:10 * DocScrutinizer05 headdesks
Jul 11 16:44:17 <DocScrutinizer05> please elaborate >>prevents the trimesterial fallout IPHH was not amused<<
Jul 11 16:47:05 <DocScrutinizer05> I know how IP blocking got offloaded to firewall, but for sure not because firewall needs that, it been done on request of subsystems whose admins felt like not beaing capable of dealing with spambots on  their local systems
Jul 11 16:53:04 <DocScrutinizer05> I also might point out there were statements where chem|st claimed to seize position of head of techstaff, so now rejecting to deal with requests that are mainly triggered by problems users have with tmo (subsystem maintainer: chem|st exclusively afaik) and would direct them to techstaff sounds quite weird
Jul 11 17:00:28 <DocScrutinizer05> >>other websites use services that cost money<< I think that's what donations to maemo that should still pile up in some e.V afaik were meant for, by their donors
Jul 11 17:41:54 <DocScrutinizer05> I'll try to interpret >>if anyone has a working solution mail it to techstaff, if you have suggestions, keep'em - they don't work<< in a more friendly and constructive way, I'm sure it wasn't meant the way it sounds like. Maybe >>they don't work<< is meant to relate to the way maemo organization and hierarchy deals with stuuf, in which case I can see how suggestions won't work per se. So here's a solution which doesn't need getting sent 
Jul 11 17:41:55 <DocScrutinizer05> by email: update to either "https://www.vbulletin.com/en/purchases vBulletin 5 Connect" (USD 250.- once)  or lease "vBulletin Cloud" incl "vBulletin handle the hosting of your site, along with all the upgrades and server maintenance." (US $179.95 per year)
Jul 11 17:44:58 <DocScrutinizer05> and yet it's a suggestion to maemo counsil who should discuss it publicly with community and finally coordinate and facilitate it
Jul 11 17:47:46 <DocScrutinizer05> the notorious "send patches [err working solution] or STFU" FOSS dev killer reply for sure doesn't work in a community and administrative organization structure like maemo community
Jul 12 02:50:41 <Oksana> Hmm... Does Nokia N900/Maemo 5 Remantle have something like "Wake On LAN"? So that when one N900 says "low battery", it also emits "wake up" signal to another (powered down) Nokia N900, and once it wakes up, transfers/syncs all the stuff changed since last sync (contacts, SMS/IMs/calls, calendar
Jul 12 02:50:42 <Oksana> events, web-browsing history, email/SMS/IM drafts, photographs/audio/videos)...
Jul 12 02:51:46 <Oksana> And once both devices are in sync, the "low battery" device shuts down and the other one takes over the role of "everyday device", allowing user to seamlessly continue doing whatever user was doing, without having to interrupt for "change of battery" or "plug this device into a charger"?
Jul 12 02:52:27 <Oksana> Granted, all this complication is unnecessary when it is possible to swap batteries for device while it is switched on.
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