**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Aug 27 03:00:00 2018 Aug 27 05:35:40 Hurrian_: I have already been using Socket T motherboards for close to a decade by now but the Asus motherboards keep having electrolytic capacitors fail. My Dell Socket T motherboard is still reliable after almost a decade, though. Aug 27 05:39:50 Hurrian_: I do not know if the answer was implied by your previous answer but is there any chance of using more than 8 GiB of main memory with that Gigabyte Socket T motherboard I found? I guess I should finally upgrade to LGA1366 or later + DDR3 or later if the cost is low by now. I have not recently checked offers. Aug 27 05:48:02 On a smartphone with an FM radio receiver that uses the headphones cord as an antenna, can a cord with 3.5-mm TRS plugs on both ends used to connect the smartphone to loudspeakers be used instead of corded headphones for the antenna? Aug 27 05:50:10 I would test it myself but I think the N900 is the only handheld computer with an integrated FM radio receiver that I have; trying to use the N900 is an exercise in frustration and patience. Aug 27 06:37:11 I think it could. Aug 27 06:38:19 I may have such a cord (and some loose loudspeakers) at home. I'll take a look and give it a try, if I can find the bits. Aug 27 06:58:23 sparre: OK, thank you. I do not need to know but I was curious. Aug 27 09:10:38 brolin_empey: if you have an 8GB DIMM made of 128Mx8 modules, it may be possible Aug 27 09:10:54 they are typically large unlike the small packages used for later DIMMs Aug 27 09:11:09 but I'm not sure if 8GB DIMMs were ever made with those old 128x8 dram modules Aug 27 09:53:51 Hurrian_: OK. I guess that I should finally upgrade to LGA1366 or later if I will finally upgrade to DDR3 or later. Aug 27 09:54:40 Hurrian_: Where are you geographically? In Europe? Aug 27 09:55:28 brolin_empey: I'm in the Philippines. I get my ebay crap shipped to a relative in the USA and pick it up when I drop by there Aug 27 09:58:46 Hurrian_: OK, so you are close to Taiwan, where most of the x86 motherboard companies are. Aug 27 09:59:10 yeah, but hardware prices are amazingly expensive in Taiwan, went there December last year Aug 27 09:59:51 it's utterly ridiculous, I can get the average board shipped from the US to my house in the Philippines using DHL cheaper than if I walk into a store in Taipei Aug 27 10:02:36 At one point Nokia had some of their customer service agents in the Philippines, in 2010 I think. Aug 27 10:04:22 yep, it's a business process outsourcing (esp. contact center) hotbed right now, lots of foreign investment coming in that way, but that industry will be utterly brutalized if Google Duplex-style AI really takes off Aug 27 10:12:40 Hurrian_: Are you from the Philippines? Aug 27 10:12:59 Yep. Aug 27 10:13:45 * brolin_empey has to look up Google Duplex. Aug 27 10:24:09 Apparently I cannot use Google Assistant thanks to Samsung disabling the in-place upgrade function of my Android OS 4.4 installation because I have “modified” my Galaxy Note 3, so I am stuck with Android OS 4.4 . I never really used these virtual assistants on my own computer, though, because they seem like a gimmick that I do not need. Aug 27 10:26:11 brolin_empey: assuming you're willing to modify your device, and you have a Snapdragon model Note 3, it's pretty well supported by LineageOS Aug 27 10:26:50 you can update to the very newest version of Android, performance will probably be about the same or faster than Samsung's garbage flavor of Android Aug 27 10:31:32 Hurrian_: I used to use CyanogenMod 11, based on Android OS 4.4, but my CyanogenMod installation broke by itself when it tried installing months of application updates at once so I reverted to my backup of the Android OS 4.4 installation from Samsung from before I installed CyanogenMod. Almost everything I have wanted to use on Android still works with 4.4 . termux is one of the few exceptions but I wanted it so I could run CPython on Android. I found a Aug 27 10:31:32 different application to run CPython on Android OS 4.4 but this application broke on its own too. Aug 27 10:33:20 That does not matter, though, because I wanted CPython to use as a calculator but I can use Mathdroid for that purpose. Aug 27 10:34:20 It is 03:33 here, I should be asleep but my sleep-wake pattern is broken Yet Again, sigh. Aug 27 10:36:26 Anyway, yes, I have a Snapdragon-based Galaxy Note 3. I disagree that the Android OS from Samsung is garbage although I do dislike some practices of Samsung involving the Android OS. Aug 27 10:38:34 I want something like the Galaxy Note 3 but with the integrated hardware keyboard of the Nokia C6-00. Aug 27 10:40:49 yeah, Samsung's theming of Android back in those versions was ridiculous Aug 27 10:40:56 it was some sort of blue-green everywhere Aug 27 13:38:29 oh fun, elinux.org wiki is broken Aug 27 13:38:33 MediaWiki 1.31 requires at least PHP version 7.0.0 or HHVM version 3.18.5, you are using PHP 5.6.37. Aug 27 13:38:34 ;) Aug 27 14:34:39 :( Aug 27 14:35:05 I wonder who maintains it :/ Aug 27 14:35:18 presumably they updated to a newer mediawiki, so they will also update php Aug 27 14:35:29 ah :) Aug 27 14:35:38 right, I thought it was the other way around Aug 27 14:44:09 cutenews (rss reader doesn't do https feed). anyone still has osso-rss-reader? does it do https? Aug 27 15:04:15 sicelo: I'd rather try fixing cutenews tbh Aug 27 15:04:19 do you get any error? Aug 27 15:13:18 you know, i've complained about https for ages on cutenews, but just now, i was able to add gitlab issues Aug 27 15:13:28 *shrug* Aug 27 15:15:33 i guess i should try other https feeds and do proper testing Aug 27 15:17:13 sicelo: is it specific to cutenews, or a generic qt/ssl issue? Aug 27 15:26:07 >>On a smartphone with an FM radio receiver that uses the headphones cord as an antenna, can a cord with 3.5-mm TRS plugs on both ends used to connect the smartphone to loudspeakers be used instead of corded headphones for the antenna?<< yes Aug 27 15:52:18 bencoh: i havd tried (in the past) a number of https feeds and all of them failed. in fact, i only have http feeds on my N900 as a result. but i never investigated further and just thought cutenews didn't support https by design. but now i see that perhaps there was something not right, either malformed feeds and/or TLS versions our qt doesn't support. so not a cutenews problem directly Aug 27 16:07:30 I'd suppose so, yeah Aug 27 16:07:55 Hmm, I see you already asked about that 10months ago :/ Aug 27 16:08:10 I wonder if marxian still works on his apps Aug 27 16:09:24 hmm, wtf is there a "qhttpserver" in cutenews code Aug 27 16:59:13 Tested if running on a desktop has same problems? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Aug 28 03:00:02 2018