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Nov 26 08:03:47 <brolin_empey> I carry a 128-GB USB SSD in my wallet/clutch but this drive uses VFAT32, which limits the maximum size of a file to 2 GiB, which is increasingly becoming a First-World problem because it means I have to bring a 1.5-TB USB HDD that uses NTFS from my office when I want to copy a >2-GiB file via sneakernet.  If I reformat my USB SSD as NTFS, am I likely to use a platform that lacks NTFS support?  I do not use Apple platforms but I use Android 4.4 as distributed
Nov 26 08:03:47 <brolin_empey>  by Samsung.  Do Android computers usually support NTFS?  I will check if my handheld computer running Android can access the NTFS volume on my USB HDD when I am back at my office tomorrow (Monday).
Nov 26 08:15:53 <brolin_empey> I realise that I can split and join a >2-GiB file to work around the VFAT maximum file size limitation but I cannot be bothered because it does not seem worthwhile because I am working around a limitation caused by still using a disk file system from 1996 (VFAT32 was introduced by Windows 95 OSR2 from 1996?) on a 128-GB flash memory device in 2018.
Nov 26 08:16:43 <Maxdamantus> Why not just have two partitions on the SSD?
Nov 26 08:16:58 <Maxdamantus> one for FAT32 and the other for NTFS.
Nov 26 08:20:19 <brolin_empey> Because if I still use a platform that lacks NTFS support then I may not know which files from the NTFS volume I will need to use on a platform that lacks NTFS support?
Nov 26 08:23:25 <brolin_empey> Ironically, I said that I do not use Apple platforms but the >2-GiB file I cannot copy this time is the virtual HDD file of my virtual Hackintosh for running Mac OS X 10.6 in VirtualBox. :-D
Nov 26 08:39:04 <brolin_empey> I ran “# find / -iname '*ntfs*'” on my handheld computer, will see what I find.
Nov 26 08:42:17 <brolin_empey> Nothing.  Heh.  Does that indicate that this Android installation lacks NTFS support even though NTFS may actually be older than Linux if you include use within Microsoft whilst Windows NT 3.1 was still being developed before the final release in 1993?
Nov 26 08:42:59 <brolin_empey> I guess Android may ship without NTFS support due to software patents?  I recall reading something about that years ago.
Nov 26 08:49:33 <brolin_empey> Judging by /proc/filesystems , this Android installation supports exfat but not ntfs?  How far back can exfat support be retrofitted onto Windows NT?  Even Windows 2000 shipped in late 1999 with NTFS support and generic USB Mass Storage support.
Nov 26 08:53:17 <brolin_empey> It seems like the pragmatic compromise in this case is to buy another >=120-GB USB SSD to format as NTFS and keep in my wallet/clutch for copying >2-GiB files via sneakernet.
Nov 26 08:55:41 <KotCzarny> ntfs in kernel isnt very good
Nov 26 08:55:50 <KotCzarny> usuall way is ntfs-3g via fuse
Nov 26 08:55:57 <KotCzarny> thats why no android ntfs
Nov 26 08:56:45 <brolin_empey> Or just continue using my current workaround, which works but I do not carry the USB HDD with me except when I need it because it is too heavy and bulky compared to a USB SSD.  Too heavy and bulky?  Add a crap TN AMLCD panel and it sounds like a notebook computer. :-P
Nov 26 08:57:22 <KotCzarny> or stop using android
Nov 26 08:59:42 <brolin_empey> And use what?  Debian on a Gemini?  I will definitely not replace my Galaxy Note 3 with an N900 running any OS.
Nov 26 08:59:51 <KotCzarny> go and live in the woods
Nov 26 08:59:55 <KotCzarny> would solve a lot of problems
Nov 26 09:01:41 <brolin_empey> I already reside in a building made partially of wood. :-P  The street outside is lined with trees.
Nov 26 09:02:02 <KotCzarny> not far enough
Nov 26 09:03:31 <brolin_empey> One of the main streets in Vancouver is named Oak Street.  Does that count?
Nov 26 09:03:50 <KotCzarny> not woody enough
Nov 26 09:03:59 <KotCzarny> there are no streets in the woods
Nov 26 09:05:03 <brolin_empey> I have an HDD that contains an installation of Debian GNU+Linux 3, which is codenamed woody.
Nov 26 09:05:18 <KotCzarny> there are no penguins in the woods
Nov 26 09:06:00 <brolin_empey> There are bears in the forrest, though, and I use Microsoft Windows.
Nov 26 09:06:18 <KotCzarny> there are no windows in the woods
Nov 26 09:07:33 <brolin_empey> Linus Torvalds lives in Oregon last I checked, so are you certain there are no penguins in the forrest?
Nov 26 09:08:13 <KotCzarny> virtual penguins dont count
Nov 26 09:09:03 <brolin_empey> Do they wave a Zero Flag?
Nov 26 09:10:53 <brolin_empey> I reside near a lumber yard.  Does that count?
Nov 26 09:11:04 <KotCzarny> closer, but not close enough
Nov 26 09:12:40 <brolin_empey> I was involved with the Apache Forrest project.  Does that count?  I did not use Forrest on woody, though.
Nov 26 09:13:18 <KotCzarny> cant comment on that, although there were apache members in the forest long time ago
Nov 26 09:14:50 <brolin_empey> Does Tim Berners-Lee have a family web instead of a family tree?
Nov 26 09:15:06 <KotCzarny> bearners
Nov 26 09:16:33 <brolin_empey> He did not bear his children, though, his first wife, Nancy, did.
Nov 26 09:17:19 <brolin_empey> The second comma should be a semicolon.
Nov 26 09:17:41 <KotCzarny> nope
Nov 26 09:17:51 <KotCzarny> first comma shouldn't be there probably
Nov 26 09:18:45 <brolin_empey> Is a semicolon less shitty than a colon?
Nov 26 09:19:02 <KotCzarny> six wheeled colon
Nov 26 09:19:42 <brolin_empey> Nancy missed her period at least twice because she bore two children for Tim.
Nov 26 09:23:49 <brolin_empey> Does a Commodore brand of filing cabinet contain a paper file system?
Nov 26 09:25:40 <brolin_empey> I have A4 paper even though I live in Canada and my company has an (Audi) A4.
Nov 26 09:36:54 <brolin_empey> There are Windows and windows in Woodinville, which is near Bellevue and Redmond, which is where Windows was made.
Nov 26 09:38:24 <brolin_empey> PKWARE has and Phil Katz had at least two types of ZIP code.
Nov 26 09:41:36 <brolin_empey> Did Robert Prince use Texas Instruments to compose soundtracks for Id Software?
Nov 26 11:29:06 <Vajb> are Texas Instruments Colt pistols and such?
Nov 26 11:32:45 <Vajb> and if I have several different webs and I use Dijkstra's algorithm to get minimum spanning tree from each. Does the end result count as forest?
Nov 26 11:36:35 <brolin_empey> If you have a member of a certain series of Ford pick-up truck in a wooded area, do you have a forest Ranger?
Nov 26 11:37:28 <brolin_empey> Or a player character from the Quake series?
Nov 26 11:40:03 <brolin_empey> Dijkstra is dead so maybe you reach a dead tree?
Nov 26 11:41:19 <brolin_empey> Knuth is still alive but is very old.
Nov 26 11:42:30 <brolin_empey> The Foxconn and the Grapes?
Nov 26 11:44:00 <brolin_empey> Software that manages contacts as in persons should have a standard field for date of death in addition to date of birth.
Nov 26 11:45:06 <brolin_empey> Then it could ask you if you try to contact a contact who is recorded as dead.
Nov 26 11:49:40 <brolin_empey> The ironic reality is that I currently or at least used to hold AAPL shares bought on my behalf, which says that Apple Inc. is economically valuable to me even though I do not use their products and avoid giving them any money.
Nov 26 11:51:51 <brolin_empey> I use the CUPS but I have used it since before Apple bought it or bought all of Easy Software Products (?).  Or merged with?
Nov 26 12:06:11 <DocScrutinizer05> brolin_empey: seems your nick got hijacked by a spambot, the version that posts random citations without any context or meaning
Nov 26 12:06:46 <DocScrutinizer05> please pm me to have +q lifted
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Nov 27 02:01:39 <brolin_empey> Apparently Android on my handheld computer rejects my USB HDD using NTFS, as expected.
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