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Nov 28 08:40:52 <sicelo> brolin_empey: application for Messenger is considered a nice spy app ... you may want to use the web site on your handheld as well
Nov 28 09:35:57 <fishbulb> apart from a cool drum machine does this thing do more than make calls, browse very limited websites and do cli crap 
Nov 28 09:36:08 <KotCzarny> told you yesterday
Nov 28 09:36:35 <KotCzarny> if you are whining, just change it to superduperlatest hexacore monster and be done
Nov 28 09:37:09 <KotCzarny> it's for people that know it's 10 years old phone 
Nov 28 09:37:10 <fishbulb> man i have to pay for that.
Nov 28 09:38:15 <sicelo> someone give fishbulb a hammer
Nov 28 09:38:17 <fishbulb> a computer with these specs would work
Nov 28 09:38:22 <KotCzarny> no.
Nov 28 09:38:32 <KotCzarny> 256M of ram is not enough for todays browsing
Nov 28 09:38:34 <fishbulb> that's wasteful
Nov 28 09:38:36 <KotCzarny> (and thats what you need)
Nov 28 09:39:07 <fishbulb> i really only need maps that work
Nov 28 09:39:16 <KotCzarny> it equals to 'browsing' today
Nov 28 09:39:24 <fishbulb> maps?
Nov 28 09:39:35 <sicelo> fishbulb: android has working maps. why don't you just use it?
Nov 28 09:39:54 <sicelo> or iPhone
Nov 28 09:40:24 <KotCzarny> you might try open street maps in the browser
Nov 28 09:40:32 <KotCzarny> but they dont have navigation afair
Nov 28 09:40:52 <KotCzarny> still might be good enough for simple address finding
Nov 28 09:42:52 <fishbulb> because i have to pay for it. not sure which one to get, i was using linegeos on an expensive hand me down
Nov 28 09:42:53 <fishbulb> but that project is not trustworthy and i don't have 800 euro to spend on something i basically hate
Nov 28 09:43:22 <KotCzarny> i recently bought alcatel for 48usd
Nov 28 09:43:39 <KotCzarny> 1gb ram, quad core mediatek soc, 5.5" ips screen
Nov 28 09:43:50 <KotCzarny> seems it would fit your use case perfectly
Nov 28 09:45:13 <sicelo> paper maps then :)
Nov 28 09:45:15 <fishbulb> can i have it?
Nov 28 09:45:27 <KotCzarny> sure, navigate to aliexpress.com and choose the one you like
Nov 28 09:45:31 <KotCzarny> lots of cheap phones
Nov 28 09:45:33 <fishbulb> that would be a phonebook here
Nov 28 11:08:42 <Vajb> +1 for paper maps.
Nov 28 11:12:22 <KotCzarny> paper maps can get outdated quickly
Nov 28 11:12:41 <KotCzarny> and lack interactive features, for example traffic report
Nov 28 11:15:32 <inz> Real men draw their maps with a pencil and update regularly.
Nov 28 11:15:49 <KotCzarny> pencil? pencil?>!
Nov 28 11:16:07 <KotCzarny> real men drive right through !
Nov 28 11:18:04 <inz> They take over the government and build a straight road to wherever they need to go.
Nov 28 11:46:35 <MoeIcenowy> paper maps cannot schedule public traffic :-(
Nov 28 11:46:49 <MoeIcenowy> and currently I must rely on some closed service for this :-(
Nov 28 11:48:24 <MoeIcenowy> to be honest for OSM nowadays I only use it for walking (I have no driving license)
Nov 28 11:48:27 <MoeIcenowy> or cycling
Nov 28 11:48:42 <MoeIcenowy> BTw is there a good OSM reader on Fremantle?
Nov 28 11:50:00 <KotCzarny> browser?
Nov 28 11:50:01 <KotCzarny> :)
Nov 28 11:51:09 <KotCzarny> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nokia_N900
Nov 28 11:51:11 <KotCzarny> heh
Nov 28 11:51:37 <KotCzarny> osm2go looked nice
Nov 28 11:52:33 <KotCzarny> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Osm2go
Nov 28 12:00:17 <MoeIcenowy> I think I can try Mappero?
Nov 28 12:02:11 <MoeIcenowy> btw seems that SpeedyHAM cannot workaround network speed issue...
Nov 28 12:05:12 <sixwheeledbeast> It doesn't improve network speed only the slowness of HAM stock.
Nov 28 12:05:38 <sixwheeledbeast> Real men ride a motorcycle and don't worry about traffic...
Nov 28 12:07:01 <MoeIcenowy> what should I do when HAM reports "gstreamer0.10-plugins-good-extra" is missing?
Nov 28 12:07:30 <MoeIcenowy> I'm trying to install Mappero on a system w/ CSSU
Nov 28 12:08:52 <KotCzarny> maybe you miss nokia mirror repos?
Nov 28 12:09:11 <MoeIcenowy> oh I used linenoise mirror and it reports failure to update
Nov 28 12:11:16 <KotCzarny> sixwheeledbeast: six wheeled monstercycle?
Nov 28 12:13:37 <MoeIcenowy> HAM translation issue
Nov 28 12:13:45 <MoeIcenowy> oh sorry
Nov 28 12:13:50 <MoeIcenowy> I forgot zh_CN is not official
Nov 28 12:14:00 <MoeIcenowy> maybe I should report to zh_CN translation maintainer?
Nov 28 12:14:44 <KotCzarny> if he/she is alive, why not
Nov 28 12:15:15 <MoeIcenowy> I doubt whether they're alive
Nov 28 16:44:21 <sixwheeledbeast> KotCzarny: 6x6 for off-road, no traffic scenario obviously ;)
Nov 28 16:45:26 <sixwheeledbeast> sounds like nokia repos are down in that case, same with "Connect with Nokia Suite" type message
Nov 28 16:45:56 <sixwheeledbeast> down == incorrect/not installed etc
Nov 28 23:14:40 <Foxhound> Hello, can you please whitelist my IP adress to get back access to forums ? I don't even know it was blacklisted at first place
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