**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Dec 01 03:00:01 2018 Dec 01 03:51:42 The European Union is a subset of Europe and countries such as Russia and Turkey are in both Europe and Asia. Dec 01 03:54:43 What if you only use the SIM in the Asian part of a country that is also in Europe, such as Russia or Turkey? “EU” seems ambiguous because it could mean either Europe or the European Union, which are not the same. Dec 01 04:04:42 Can you have an MX record for mx.mx.mx ? Dec 01 04:07:03 More precisely for mx.mx.mx. ? Dec 01 04:46:47 Actually, apparently the states of Mexico do not have their own second-level domain names in the .mx top-level domain. Dec 01 04:53:12 Vivaldi just silently exited on my home computer with 16 GiB of main memory? :-/ Dec 01 05:11:31 brolin_empey: they were pretty specific, with list of countriesd that are not EU (not ambiguous) and yet allowed Dec 01 05:12:42 Such as Norway? Dec 01 05:13:29 let's assume "yes", just to determine if it's worth me fetching that fineprint paper Dec 01 05:13:49 what's your conclusion fom "Norway yes"? Dec 01 05:16:16 I meant that “EU” as a contraction of “Europ[ea]” is ambiguous because “EU” is also the initials of the European Union, which is only a subset of Europe because it excludes countries that are fully in Europe, such as Norway, and countries that are partially in Europe, such as Russia. Dec 01 05:17:00 Contraction, clipping, abbreviation, whatever. Dec 01 05:25:37 please note that I meant EU when I wrote EU Dec 01 05:26:10 google "samsung region lock" Dec 01 05:26:34 it's obviously around since 2013 Dec 01 05:28:31 the text: https://www.techadvisor.co.uk/how-to/mobile-phone/how-remove-samsung-region-locking-3590401/ Dec 01 05:29:24 not exactly my text, but similar Dec 01 05:31:48 s/google/Search the Internet for/ I primarily use DuckDuckGo, not Google Search. I also use Bing Search in addition to DuckDuckGo and Google Search. Dec 01 05:34:19 good for you. you're a smart guy who should understand that "to google" is a generic term nowadays Dec 01 05:34:47 I use startpage, FWIW Dec 01 05:36:15 even more so, I only provide startpage links, never google links Dec 01 05:36:43 https://www.startpage.com/do/search?query=samsung+region+lock Dec 01 05:37:21 but I guess hardly anybody understands >>stzartpage "samsung region lock"<< Dec 01 05:37:58 "to google" is in all dictionaries now Dec 01 05:41:50 By your reasoning, you would also use “Photoshop” as a verb even though the Adobe Photoshop does not natively run on your apparently preferred platform of GNU+Linux. Dec 01 05:44:38 Do you also use “Skype” as a verb even though Skype is closed-source software popular with persons who do not know how to use the SIP with a service such as VoIP.ms or iptel.org ? Dec 01 05:50:15 yes, I use the term "this is photoshoped" Dec 01 05:50:44 and no, Skype afaik ios not commonly accepted as a term yet Dec 01 05:51:28 Do you live in the FRoG (the Federal Republic of Germany)? Dec 01 05:51:36 also SIP VoIP predates and dwarfs skype Dec 01 05:52:12 and I think this convo turns strange and weird now, so I'm out Dec 01 05:54:14 ding: >>to google (sth./sb.); to search (for sth./sb.) on the Internet; to search the Internet for sth./sb. (esp. using the Google search engine) ::: (nach jdm./etw.) googeln; im Internet suchen; im Internet recherchieren (bes. mit der Suchmaschine Google) [comp.] << Dec 01 05:54:55 also see Duden and I guess Meriam Webster Dec 01 05:55:14 also Hornby Dec 01 05:56:11 I do not speak German but I know some about the language. Dec 01 05:56:55 https://www.amazon.com/Advanced-Learners-Dictionary-Current-English/dp/0194311414 aka "Hornby" Dec 01 05:57:29 when you know sth about the language, you will know Duden Dec 01 05:58:03 it included "googeln" (to google) several years ago already Dec 01 05:58:11 I was already aware of Duden before today. Dec 01 05:58:42 I enjoy reading dictionaries. Dec 01 05:59:01 thanks for confirming that, though it sounds like a defeating reply Dec 01 05:59:22 I'm out, this is not leading anywhere Dec 01 06:01:21 Of course not, because we are RoHS-compliant. ;-) Dec 01 06:03:00 Seriously, though, I usually use the English-language Wiktionary. Dec 01 06:08:26 honestly, from arguing about allegedly ambiguous term "EU" to "to google" to "to photoshop" to which dictionary to use? dang you must be bored Dec 01 06:08:58 I'm totllay missing the point you try to make Dec 01 06:41:32 If “North America” is abbreviated to “NA” then “Europ[ea]” is probably also abbreviated to “EU” even though “European Union” is abbreviated to “EU” too. That was my point about “EU” having the potential for ambiguity. I never argued about which dictionary to use, I only meant to tell you that I usually use the English-language Wiktionary as a general source as opposed to special sources such as Duden or other sources for Dec 01 06:41:32 specific languages. I am not bored because I literally always have something I should be doing but I often still procrastinate. I should have been updating my resume, which was last modified in 2011, or shopping for low-energy light bulbs, probably LED or compact fluorescent, because I have no spare light bulbs at home, or replying to my written one-on-one conversations with some women, or maybe some fun but low priority computer project such as trying to Dec 01 06:41:32 Hackintosh my HP 2133 Mini-Note notebook computer or other, more useful computer projects such as finally getting around to implementing SPF for my domain name or trying to use a small, solid-state x86 computer that can boot from a 2.5-inch SATA drive such as the ODroid H2 (correct name?) to replace some fanful tower computers with microATX or larger motherboards in my home and office. Dec 01 06:46:50 Or even seeing if my ET1000 8-bit ISA video card works better in my Asus P2B-based computer with i440BX chipset that natively supports ISA than in my Socket-370 motherboard with VIA chipset that relies upon a PCI to ISA bridge. Dec 01 06:50:09 Or trying to fix my user error that seems to not matter in practice in the installation of acme.sh on a server of a customer of my company during Friday night, which is presumably a period of low demand for the service provided by this production server. **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Dec 01 08:39:34 2018 Dec 01 14:38:33 hey Dec 01 14:38:46 the spesker in my phone stopped working Dec 01 14:40:51 volume all the way up, no earpiece, it was too spontaneous Dec 01 14:41:08 it's weird that it would stop Dec 01 14:41:26 speark or earpiece? if earpiece __> suspect riboon cable Dec 01 14:41:38 sorry for typos Dec 01 14:43:56 earpiece, there's been no inteermittent faults or anything. Dec 01 14:44:27 flex cable then Dec 01 14:47:02 what about it? Dec 01 14:47:03 broken? Dec 01 14:50:27 yes, in some way Dec 01 14:55:27 ~fixribbon Dec 01 14:55:28 fixribbon is, like, http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1324171#post1324171 Dec 01 15:03:11 from the boot menu can i do a kind of factory reset? Dec 01 15:03:33 it won't fix a broken ribbon ... Dec 01 15:04:52 N900 doesn't have a boot menu. what do you mean? Dec 01 15:04:54 i am using the phone, i have barely any data Dec 01 15:05:49 the one you install Dec 01 15:06:42 i don't remember. there's a lot of shit going on. Dec 01 15:06:50 not a far as i remember. simplest way to reset n900 is toreflash, and i repeat - it won't fix a non-working earpiece Dec 01 15:07:52 i don't have facilities to fix a broken ribbon xcable, i am inbetween apartments Dec 01 15:09:11 resetting won't help either. that's the point.. maybe now you have a good reason to buy an Android phone :) Dec 01 15:11:19 i want to reset for different reasons Dec 01 15:11:19 and i will need to research which android phone is best for my budget Dec 01 15:11:32 i can't waste hundreds of euros on something that turns out to be worse Dec 01 15:13:40 i'm sure you'll get something. choice is virtually limitless on android Dec 01 15:13:42 this is fucking terrible. getting an apartment is so bad here. Dec 01 15:19:05 that's what makes it so frustrating. the cheap choices from a store are a bit limited. i need the money to get an apartment. new phones aren't really in trhe budget Dec 01 15:34:02 what about life says it has to work out. surely there's guys in prison who are there from a millisecond of too much stress Dec 01 15:38:18 :) Dec 01 15:42:52 glad you're happy Dec 01 15:51:10 we have same issue in my country. people were complaiing that our country's most ruthless serial killer is living a life of luxury in prison. evidently, he could watch the world cup in style Dec 01 15:56:54 i have been to jail and it's worse than you think Dec 01 16:00:13 i just stopped caring about phones :) Dec 01 16:00:23 dont need mobile data, dont need voice chats Dec 01 16:02:29 serial killer should have been quietly removed but he has human rights and if thr death penalty exists it's possible an innocent person can be killed Dec 01 16:02:29 buzz those things make life easier Dec 01 16:02:29 especially if all your family is overseas Dec 01 16:02:52 you're missing the point fishbulb. oh well Dec 01 16:03:32 fishbulb: i dont like that Dec 01 16:03:49 and wont cooperate in upholding such systems Dec 01 16:04:37 what was the point Dec 01 16:06:00 * sicelo afk Dec 01 16:06:01 well you have a luxury then Dec 01 16:06:03 yeah i dont see one either Dec 01 16:06:26 how does carrying a 24/7 on radio help with your families geological distance Dec 01 16:07:02 they only use common things Dec 01 16:07:02 that are phone only Dec 01 16:07:42 cool Dec 01 16:07:43 and most people do in general. Dec 01 16:08:02 well if everybody jumps off a bridge, i'll be sure to join Dec 01 16:08:13 who needs independant thought :D Dec 01 16:10:13 that's the very next logical step first it's whatsapp, then immediately mass bridge suicide. Dec 01 16:10:29 uhuh Dec 01 17:48:17 DocScrutinizer05: https://www.startpage.com/en/about-us.html?&t=default claims that this company is profitable but does not explain their business model. 0_o Dec 01 17:49:23 simple, nsa sponsoring Dec 01 18:05:26 eh. what search engine is safe then ? Dec 01 18:53:08 this handset is infected, which type of format will reinstall just the operating system? Dec 01 18:53:44 i was testing shit out, it seems like hands on is the quickest way of infection. maybe onoly if you don't use wifi? Dec 01 18:54:07 ~flashing Dec 01 18:54:08 methinks maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh; or see ~flashing-cmdline, or see ~lazyflashing Dec 01 18:54:28 crap i need data. Dec 01 18:56:48 a lot of it. Dec 01 18:56:48 is there a maemo future? Dec 01 18:56:48 the topic suggests it Dec 01 18:59:54 it'll flash back to factory? Dec 01 19:02:08 this tiny thing is horrible for reading anything Dec 01 19:15:51 hands on the device might be the only way of infection if you don't use the wifi Dec 01 19:16:19 nope. Dec 01 19:16:29 no? Dec 01 19:18:49 that confuses me then Dec 01 19:18:49 with part of this experiment Dec 01 19:19:14 are you german kotzkarny Dec 01 19:21:29 kotczarny. wait i think i read kot is slavic, not sure why germans uase it Dec 01 19:35:11 kotczarny can you elaborate on the security of these things, the forums are mostly pointless Dec 01 19:38:52 old kernel, old libs, device connected to the internet in any way is susceptible to remote volnerabilities if cellular provider dont filter incoming packets. and to local vulnerabilities in browserd (any component that uses it) Dec 01 19:50:19 so bad across the board Dec 01 19:50:48 there are OFFLINE power plants hacked Dec 01 19:51:06 so even being cut from the net doesnt prevent being hacked Dec 01 19:53:09 power plants Dec 01 19:53:09 i need a phone not a power plant Dec 01 19:53:24 you are not reading what i wrote Dec 01 19:56:48 i will amalgamate it with what i know so far Dec 01 19:56:48 thanks Dec 01 19:59:28 basicvally there is no security Dec 01 19:59:28 fuck it. Dec 01 19:59:41 yes. Dec 01 20:00:17 go for freebsd, they will sing you to sleep Dec 01 20:00:33 the internet equals a shitload of people and most of them are mostly bad Dec 01 20:00:55 nothing is truly "secure". Security is all about layers and the number of layers should be equal to the risk. Dec 01 20:01:38 layers have holes, some are obscure, some are not-yet-found Dec 01 20:01:40 layers? Dec 01 20:01:41 i got doxxed recently for no reason Dec 01 20:01:52 Layers should be constantly assessed and adapted as issues are found. Dec 01 20:02:33 offtopic, i'm slowly starting to love my espressobin Dec 01 20:02:35 and tyey added in stuff they wrote, not me Dec 01 20:02:36 This is the same will all types of security be that physical, online whatever. Dec 01 20:02:50 s/will/with/ Dec 01 20:02:50 sixwheeledbeast meant: This is the same with all types of security be that physical, online whatever. Dec 01 20:04:48 physical i have a lot moer control over Dec 01 20:04:48 people are fucking garbag Dec 01 20:04:49 more people are shit than are good Dec 01 20:09:29 i'm so good that i'm vhanging policies wherever i go. Dec 01 20:12:39 this entire building can't use internet while on shift for example Dec 01 20:12:39 through their own misuse of it. i didn't even use the internet. Dec 01 21:34:53 brolin_empey: please invest more effort to dilligently find the elaborate explanation of startpage's business model on their website. It's there Dec 01 23:09:45 I admit it's not simp,le to find, anyway I succeeded back when I chosen Startpage - they get money from Google for the adds they forward and show while they protect their users from getting tracked by google and by the ads Dec 01 23:11:20 so the money advertisers pay to google for placing ads stays a fraction at google while another fraction gets forwarded by google to startpage Dec 01 23:17:50 hmm, they changed their website. And they now say they pay google for using google's search results. So maybe they do direct business with advertisers now? Dec 01 23:22:11 brolin_empey: https://www.startpage.com/en/search/privacy-policy.html >>Our search result pages may include a small number of clearly labeled "sponsored links", which generate revenue and cover our operational costs. Those links are retrieved from platforms such as Google Adwords.<< Dec 01 23:32:23 DocScrutinizer05: ACK. Dec 02 00:26:06 anyway >>We don’t record your IP address; We don’t serve any tracking or identifying cookies; we don’t collect any ‘personal data’ << Dec 02 00:29:57 the above URL is pointing to a worthwhile read Dec 02 00:31:16 one of my colleagues did a evaluation of mosz existing searchj engines regarding privacy, and Startpage ranked #4+- iirc **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Dec 02 03:00:01 2018