**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Dec 22 03:00:03 2018 Dec 22 03:27:26 ping Dec 22 03:27:30 ~ping Dec 22 03:27:30 1 packet transmitted, 1 packet received, 0.0% packet loss **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Dec 22 18:13:37 2018 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Dec 22 18:16:09 2018 Dec 22 20:29:10 anyone here know how to mount a symbian s60 device on linux? Dec 22 20:29:22 it shows up in dmesg but not lsblk Dec 22 20:29:45 and when i plug it in, the phone displays a dialog which lets me select mass storage mode, but this has no effect (doesn't show up in dmesg) Dec 22 20:29:51 anyone have experience with this crap? Dec 22 20:32:10 bad cable? Dec 22 20:32:32 maybe it could work with wine? Dec 22 20:41:18 just tried 2 other cables so i don't think that's it Dec 22 20:41:57 Vajb: nokia used to have this "PC suite" thing, and it's one of the options next to "mass storage mode" Dec 22 20:42:22 i think the PC suite might require wine but mass storage doesn't normally have an application associated with it Dec 22 20:42:32 so like idk what software i would run on wine Dec 22 20:43:47 what symbian phone? Dec 22 20:43:51 e52 Dec 22 20:45:55 I can't recall if I ever get my Symbian phone to mount in linux Dec 22 20:45:56 that one should not have any issues really with mass storage mode. Dec 22 20:46:53 wut! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_E52/E55 Dec 22 20:47:16 MTP? ... i didn't know Symbian supported that Dec 22 21:05:11 sicelo: so i was able to get the photos off it with gphoto2 Dec 22 21:05:38 but no luck as far as exploring the filesystem, backing up contacts/texts, etc. Dec 22 21:10:42 you cna't backup contacts/texts via mass storage on any device anyway ... Dec 22 21:10:47 *can't Dec 22 21:11:22 you'd need PC Suite for that Dec 22 21:15:31 ah Dec 22 21:16:36 i don't think it works in wine Dec 22 21:16:59 but backing up contacts/texts is rare enough that i could do it in a windows vm Dec 22 21:17:13 sicelo: do you know anything about developing apps with pys60? Dec 22 21:17:25 like would that require PC Suite? Dec 22 21:17:42 i tried it once on my N-Gage Dec 22 21:17:53 anyway, shouldn't need a pc at all Dec 22 21:18:44 sicelo: you mean for pys60? or for anything Dec 22 21:19:18 pys60 Dec 22 21:20:09 how would that work? i thought side loading apps requires you to copy the .sisx file to some directory on the phone Dec 22 21:21:53 not sure i understand you now - if you have pys60 installed, what do you need a .sisx file for? Dec 22 21:24:06 oh i'm not sure Dec 22 21:24:10 i haven't done any devleopment yet Dec 22 21:24:50 how would you normally develop apps in pys60? Dec 22 21:25:02 i did really basic tests (and N-Gage) is really old phone anywy. but the python interpret works as usual Dec 22 21:26:18 since it's python, surely it has to be .py text files Dec 22 21:26:48 Sicelo009N: so how do you get them from your computer to the phone? Dec 22 21:27:38 if you wrote them on pc, then of course, you'd need usb mass storage, or bluetooth Dec 22 21:27:52 i guess you could put them on a web server Dec 22 21:28:06 that too Dec 22 21:28:06 then download them manually from your phone Dec 22 21:33:12 symbian tended to have high-quality applications. unlike what we're served by the other ecosystems nowadays Dec 22 21:34:30 Symbian "C++" was so painful that all it repelled all low-quality developers Dec 22 21:34:39 lol yeah Dec 22 21:35:17 i'm always wary of stuff written in modern languages... they make things so easy that shitty developers can get things to pass tests Dec 22 21:35:28 :-) Dec 22 21:48:28 Symbian made it extremely difficult to write anything that used power Dec 22 23:18:16 There was python for Symbian S60, I liked that, made many apps for my own use **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Dec 23 03:00:00 2018