**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jan 23 02:59:57 2019 Jan 23 05:58:22 Enrico_Menotti: there were definitely lots of issues with N900 bluetooth performance. search tmo for bmw related posts. it seems some worked, some didn't Jan 23 06:00:12 bug #8246 has some hints on troubleshooting Jan 23 06:03:22 i was going to add, but i see it's hinted in the last comment of that bug, that while N900 definitely has issues, it doesn't mean the BMW software is 'innocent' either Jan 23 06:05:13 what gets rebooted? N900, or BMW? Jan 23 06:27:18 BMW Jan 23 06:49:23 engine reboots while driving :p Jan 23 06:59:10 Not the engine, just the iDrive. :P Jan 23 06:59:29 (With the car audio.) Jan 23 07:08:48 yes, i mean't that one :-P Jan 23 07:09:40 anyway,sounds like it also has its own bugs - surely it shouldn't reboot when a 'buggy' device connects to it Jan 23 07:23:26 Enrico_Menotti: Bluetooth on my F22 (not sure about the version, however it should be the latest or close to that) has issues as well when n900 is connected to it. However it doesn't look like n900 is to blame. Jan 23 07:24:02 never seen it rebooting though Jan 23 07:24:56 F30 2012 here. I will try to report here the iDrive version. Jan 23 07:24:58 the major issue I have with it is that when music plays and I receive a phone call, I cannot resume the music playback after call is completed, no matter what I do Jan 23 07:25:27 it is not iDriver version that matters Jan 23 07:25:34 Yeah, it's what happens to me, but in the end the iDrive reboots and music starts again. Jan 23 07:25:43 Why not? Jan 23 07:25:49 multimedia has its own version, at least in my car Jan 23 07:25:56 Ah. Jan 23 07:26:02 Don't know where to find it. Jan 23 07:26:28 not sure where it was burried in the menus, sorry Jan 23 07:26:55 does your car support SW upgrade through USB? Jan 23 07:27:33 Maybe what reboots is just the multimedia. In any case, after completing the phone call I have no audio, I'm able to navigate on the car's screen, but after a while the screen shuts down, the BMW logo appears, music is back, and a bit later the multimedia is back. Jan 23 07:27:43 (Re-connecting the phone via bt.) Jan 23 07:28:00 if yes, you may check https://www.bmw.com/en/footer/software-updates.html if there is a newer version for your car Jan 23 07:28:37 otherwise, go to BMW dealer to check if there is a newer version of the SW Jan 23 07:28:39 I think my car supports sw upgrade. I found lots of things about its OS, but didn't want to try messing with it yet, since I don't want to run the risk of being left on my own feet. :P Jan 23 07:29:11 go to a dealer, they will upgrade the software Jan 23 07:29:35 In any case, since with my gf smartphone I have no pb, I think there's same guilt also on the N900 side. Jan 23 07:30:10 no, it is BMW (or rather the company that made multimedia part) to blame Jan 23 07:31:31 my n900 has no issues at all with my other car (year 2015 seat ibiza) Jan 23 07:31:40 But why with the Wiko Jerry it works? Jan 23 07:32:21 no idea, however, trust me on that one, BT in BMW multimedia is buggy Jan 23 07:32:43 That's for sure, since it reboots... Jan 23 07:32:55 mhm Jan 23 07:33:09 so, why n900 triggers a bug... does it matter? Jan 23 07:34:18 anyway you can;t fix it, your only chance is upgraded SW in the car. And since you don;t want to risk screwing it, just go to a BMW dealer to upgrade the car SW. Jan 23 07:34:24 that's your best bet Jan 23 07:34:51 have to run, bye Jan 23 07:35:56 Ok, thanks a lot. Have a nice day. Jan 23 07:38:49 about playback after call ends. I have bluetooth headet and sometimes after a call it plays about a second then pauses for maybe ten seconds and after that starts playing normally Jan 23 07:38:57 headset* Jan 23 07:41:46 nice cars both of you :) Jan 23 07:42:53 :( Jan 23 11:31:14 I am currently way too interested in eInk+Amoled combination. So, looking at... http://gearburn.com/2017/04/3-smartphones-that-feature-e-ink-displays/ Is any of the devices likely to run Maemo Leste? I don't expect so, but I do not know much about CPU/GPU compatibility with... Jan 23 11:38:35 eInk tablet, with Wacom stylus... https://phoneradar.com/remarkable-e-ink-paper-tablet-could-replace-your-notebooks-sketchbooks-printouts/ Could it run Maemo Leste? Jan 23 11:41:16 This one is fascinating, as well - 800x480 3.5in TFT display... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyocera_Echo Jan 23 11:54:46 This one is interesting, as well https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnes_%26_Noble_Nook_1st_Edition 667MHz ARMv6? Sounds ancient. Like Maemo 4? Jan 23 11:56:42 3.5in 480x144 has interesting proportions, 10:3? Jan 23 11:58:27 somewhat unrelated but I heard that waveshare released a bit bigger display (that you can fairly easily interface with stuff) https://www.waveshare.com/wiki/9.7inch_e-Paper_HAT which has a decent refresh times even along with decent resolution etc... dunno anything else about it though Jan 23 11:59:11 Hat, intended to be used with Raspberry Pi? Jan 23 11:59:34 yeah, that one is at least, you can get the panel itself too if you wan't to drive it yourself Jan 23 11:59:56 Is there any Raspberry Pi which is not HDMI-compatible? Because I happen to dislike HDMI Jan 23 12:00:17 the hat wouldn't use HDMI Jan 23 12:01:21 Hmm, thank you :-) I might end up assembling a prototype tablet myself, though I would have preferred finding a ready-to-go device. Jan 23 12:01:24 (the only hdmi e-ink "displays" I've seen are the very expensive tablet things that happen to support using them as an external display) Jan 23 12:01:41 (plus even more expensive standalone displays) Jan 23 12:02:00 I just don't want to pay Raspberry to pay HDMI for permission to use HDMI connector on Raspberry Pi. Jan 23 12:02:46 tough ;) Jan 23 12:03:13 there are alternatives surely, the rpi is just the most popular so usually less hassle to implement stuff Jan 23 12:04:35 There is an open-source Allwinner board somewhere, Maemo Leste can run on it? Just, I would have to assemble a device manually, finding parts and such for it :-/ Jan 23 12:44:01 wikiwide really need a way to stay connected to irc.... :( Jan 23 12:44:23 for the record, there is maemo-leste work ongoing on some allwinner board/tablet Jan 23 13:39:33 second time when my device didn't accept any input after issuing pnatd. Im afraid this device is soon to be dead Jan 23 19:12:51 what do you mean Vajb Jan 23 19:13:55 bencoh: Wikiwide has other accounts and may pick up the conversation later due to timezones. Jan 23 19:19:52 did anybody mention the ThreadX MarvelWiFi exploit already? Jan 23 19:20:21 >>“This vulnerability can be triggered without user interaction during the scanning for available networks. This procedure is launched every 5 minutes regardless of a device being connected to some Wi-Fi network or not. That’s why this bug is so cool and provides an opportunity to exploit devices literally with zero-click interaction at any state of wireless connection (even when a device isn’t connected to any network).”<< Jan 23 19:22:02 https://securityboulevard.com/2019/01/wi-fi-chip-firmware-flaws-enable-over-the-air-hacking/ Jan 23 20:48:02 sicelo: I meant that when I sign in as root and write "pnatd" it opens pnatd console and I cant type for example "AT+CFUN...". Now it has been like pnatd console opens, but I can't write anything in it. Jan 23 22:23:49 Vajb: you probably first need to make sure the cellmo is actually powered up. it prolly won't be e.g. in airplane mode Jan 23 22:24:32 I could imagine it's also shut off completely when you got no SIM inserted and not using GPS Jan 23 22:25:28 GPS actually is a good way to check for cellmo basic functionality Jan 23 23:04:30 This morning I was talking to freemangordon about issues with the N900 bluetooth. The problem was in connection to my BMW. I found the BMW site for downloading updates, but nothing there for my car. On the other hand, sicelo pointed me to bug #8246, so I tried to have a look at the logs, as explained in post 3: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8246#c3. Jan 23 23:07:25 It's cold and snowy outside, so I started trying to pair with my Macbook Pro. Pairing seems to succeed, but after a while the connection breaks down. Looking at /var/log/syslog, I noticed this line: Jan 23 23:07:25 Jan 23 23:36:51 Nokia-N900 kernel: [105592.367492] hci_h4p hci_h4p: firmware: requesting bcmfw.bin Jan 23 23:08:50 I googled hci_h4p, and found Jan 23 23:08:50 https://lore.kernel.org/patchwork/patch/435678/ Jan 23 23:09:22 where I read the names of pali and sre. Jan 23 23:11:02 Now I don't understand clearly what's going on: is a driver missing? Is it available for Fremantle? Jan 23 23:16:00 Ok, I googled also bcmfw.bin, and found Jan 23 23:16:01 https://wiki.maemo.org/Fremantle_closed_packages/bt-firmware Jan 23 23:16:54 Actually, I have bt-firmware (0.21-rc3+0m5), and /lib/firmware/bcmfw.bin. Jan 23 23:17:50 So what's the meaning of the above line "requesting bcmfw.bin"? It's just the kernel loading the firmware, or so? Jan 23 23:21:59 With hcidump -XV, at the time the N900 - Mac bluetooth connection breaks I read: Jan 23 23:21:59 < HCI Command: Disconnect (0x01|0x0006) plen 3 Jan 23 23:21:59 handle 11 reason 0x13 Jan 23 23:21:59 Reason: Remote User Terminated Connection Jan 23 23:22:32 So the N900 understands that my Mac terminates the connection? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Jan 24 02:59:56 2019