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Mar 18 10:42:07 <sixwheeledbeast> II wouldn't think that's valid css
Mar 18 11:21:39 <Vajb> is that default email client open source?
Mar 18 11:21:44 <Vajb> maemo's
Mar 18 11:22:19 <Vajb> Im annoyed of the feature of that "delete menu"
Mar 18 11:23:18 <Vajb> if I hold my finger on some message it pops that menu under my finger and is kind of hard to see because of that...
Mar 18 11:37:24 <bencoh> ah, right, maemo.org/packages doesn't track cssu
Mar 18 11:37:52 <bencoh> iiuc modest is opensource
Mar 18 11:38:30 <bencoh> https://github.com/community-ssu/modest
Mar 18 15:48:47 <sixwheeledbeast> I thought there where bits that where closed.
Mar 18 17:21:32 <bencoh> this is what I somehow recalled as well, but ...
Mar 18 17:42:49 <Vajb> thx bencoh, I'll take a look
Mar 18 17:43:22 <sixwheeledbeast> ~closed
Mar 18 17:43:23 <infobot> hmm... closed is http://wiki.maemo.org/Why_the_closed_packages or https://wiki.maemo.org/Fremantle_closed_packages, or http://elinux.org/N900, or https://wiki.maemo.org/Free_Maemo
Mar 18 17:46:57 <Vajb> pidgin purple is getting quite annoying with facebook. It keeps rereceiving messages from the past
Mar 18 17:48:17 <Vajb> like from 12 hours ago which I have already seen and responded. It even rereceives messages sent by me in a chat where Im talking to myself
Mar 18 17:48:37 <Vajb> hmm that came out wrong :D
Mar 18 17:48:57 <Vajb> I mean it sends to me the messages I've sent to others
Mar 18 17:49:25 <Vajb> does anyone use facebook with pidgin here?
Mar 18 17:49:42 <sicelo> i do
Mar 18 17:49:46 <sicelo> i don't have that problem. 
Mar 18 17:52:19 <Vajb> it is a tad annoying and also battery consuming.
Mar 18 17:52:59 <Vajb> somehow it sounds like facebook doesn't have info that I've already received those messages
Mar 18 17:53:15 <Vajb> but oddest is that it is sending my messages back to me
Mar 18 17:53:49 <sicelo> i do get the 'self-messages' once in a while, usually when network connectivity is bad
Mar 18 17:54:18 <sicelo> ah, 19:48 < Vajb> hmm that came out wrong :D
Mar 18 17:54:18 <sicelo> 19:49 < Vajb> I mean it sends to me the messages I've sent to others
Mar 18 17:54:29 <sicelo> ^^^ this, yes i have it sometimes
Mar 18 17:54:35 <Vajb> yeah
Mar 18 17:54:45 <Vajb> strange
Mar 18 17:54:55 <sicelo> but as said, only when my network connectivity is bad
Mar 18 17:55:06 <Vajb> could be network issue, but I didn't drop from irc
Mar 18 17:55:38 <Vajb> and it happens only with facebook not with telegram contacts
Mar 18 17:55:57 <sicelo> i don't think it is battery consuming though. 
Mar 18 17:57:04 <sicelo> maybe facebook changed something, and the plugin needs updating
Mar 18 17:57:11 <Vajb> I think it is. Few minutes with 100% cpu usage probably drains some :p
Mar 18 17:57:31 <sicelo> i don't get 100% usage. maybe you get that from PA ;)
Mar 18 17:58:13 <Vajb> I have tha cpu mem applety beside battery icon and it flashes red
Mar 18 17:58:40 <Vajb> also hildon desktop seems to crash or something since whole battery bar disappears for awhile
Mar 18 17:59:34 <sicelo> suspect PA, i think. when pidgin has many notifications, it tried to 'ping' for each and every one of them, which can overload PA
Mar 18 17:59:38 <Vajb> and not just battery icon but whole "heade bar"
Mar 18 18:00:06 <sicelo> at least that's what happened with me yesterday with piding+telegram
Mar 18 18:00:21 <sicelo> *pdgin
Mar 18 18:00:47 <Vajb> ok that then :)
Mar 18 18:01:50 <sicelo> i haven't used pidgin+telegram for a while, since i use telegram-cli instead. so pidgin-telegram tried to download all the histroy since whenever was the last time i used it. device hung as a result. eventually i found PA using too much  CPU. after stoppping it, things got a bit better
Mar 18 18:03:10 <sicelo> stopping pulseaudio, that is
Mar 18 18:03:53 <Vajb> do you have audio enabled in pidgin?
Mar 18 18:04:06 <Vajb> I keep it disabled
Mar 18 18:08:50 <sicelo> i have it enabled
Mar 18 18:11:06 <Vajb> yup. I find it odd if it is PA in my case, but who knows
Mar 18 18:12:32 <sicelo> yeah, check using (h)top next time it happens
Mar 18 18:21:30 <Vajb> sure, if my device responds enough to spawn it :p
Mar 18 18:25:22 <sicelo> that was hard for me too. 
Mar 18 18:32:07 <Vajb> well now I did disconnect here too and pidgin used most of the cpu
Mar 18 18:39:37 <sicelo> remember too, that you can start pidgin from terminal and specify `-d` to see debug messages. that could help you track down your problem
Mar 18 18:42:13 <Vajb> hmm I think I'll try that next
Mar 18 18:42:15 <Vajb> thx
Mar 18 20:13:52 <Vajb> hmm telegram is sending ping every 15s
Mar 18 20:18:14 <Vajb> facebook.png is also missing from pixmaps. Changed msn to facebook :p
Mar 18 20:19:19 <Vajb> pidgin -d is surprisingly noisy
Mar 18 20:22:48 <Vajb> GLib-GObject: IA__g_object_set_valist: object class `HildonPannableArea' has no property named `shadow-type'
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