**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Mar 23 03:00:16 2019 Mar 23 04:17:17 anyone？ Mar 23 04:17:41 how to go into flash mode when uboot is installed？ Mar 23 04:21:28 I think holding "u" is meant to do something, but in my experience, you don't need to do anything special on the device. You just have the flasher running on a computer while it boots, connected using USB. Mar 23 04:22:57 Since NOLO or something will probe for a flasher on USB before running the kernel/uboot. Mar 23 04:28:28 i recently tried to flash maemo-leste Mar 23 04:28:36 but it doesnt work Mar 23 04:43:59 it ended up in uboot Mar 23 04:44:09 cant get into flash mode Mar 23 04:48:26 how can i delete uboot Mar 23 04:50:36 zenev0: how are you trying to flash it? Mar 23 04:51:45 ? Mar 23 04:52:11 zenev0: you said "i recently tried to flash maemo-leste", "but it doesnt work" Mar 23 04:52:17 zenev0: what are you doing that "doesnt work"? Mar 23 04:54:38 i followed the official instruction Mar 23 04:54:44 but it wont boot Mar 23 04:55:39 Do you mean this? https://leste.maemo.org/Nokia_N900#If_you_don.27t_want_to_use.2Finstall_Fremantle.2C_or_want_to_install_quickly Mar 23 04:56:39 yep Mar 23 04:57:39 zenev0: well, that boots u-boot, so maybe what you're seeing is the intention. Mar 23 04:58:03 zenev0: did you set up the SD card beforehand? Mar 23 05:00:26 yep Mar 23 05:02:15 when i boot from the sd card it goes mmc0 is current device no partition table mmc 0 Mar 23 05:02:39 Sounds like the SD card wasn't written to properly. Mar 23 05:02:44 How did you do that part? Mar 23 05:03:15 using the official recommended etcher Mar 23 05:06:20 Do you at least see multiple partitions when looking at the SD card on a computer (I'm guessing you're using Windows, which has some sort of disk management UI somewhere) Mar 23 05:06:48 (I think you can see partitions on Windows by right clicking on "My Computer" and choosing some sort of "manage" option) Mar 23 05:08:28 now i just want to flash fremantle Mar 23 05:09:04 but uboot somehow stopped the device get into flash mode Mar 23 05:09:56 at present i am using an debian live cd Mar 23 05:20:49 zenev0: It works like this. Turn off your phone and remove battery. Start flashing like ytou normally would in computer. It will say "no suitable device found". Plug your usb cable to device which has keyboard closed. Plug in battery. Flashing starts immediately. Mar 23 05:25:36 nope Mar 23 05:25:40 it doent work Mar 23 05:25:50 still boot to uboot Mar 23 05:30:59 it should not go into uboot if you have keyboard closed. Mar 23 05:31:40 i am sure that i closed it Mar 23 05:33:27 It will go into u-boot regardless of the keyboard state. It might avoid showing the menu if it's closed though. Mar 23 05:33:32 but did you open it in some part of the process? Mar 23 05:33:56 i am trying again Mar 23 05:34:24 keyboard have to be closed the whole process. There is no need for pressing any keys in device Mar 23 05:44:27 still Mar 23 05:44:37 it will boot into uboot Mar 23 05:44:58 and i am 100% sure that i didnt open the keyboard Mar 23 05:45:03 ~flashing Mar 23 05:45:10 darn, bot is missing again Mar 23 05:45:36 huh? Mar 23 05:45:57 are you sure device is properly connetcted and flashing tool is running BEFORE you put battery in? Mar 23 05:46:32 https://wiki.maemo.org/User:Kotczarny#.7Eflashing Mar 23 05:47:03 when i put the battery in do i need to close the back cover？ Mar 23 05:47:07 no Mar 23 05:47:28 but you need to have usb cable connected and flashing tool already running and waiting for device Mar 23 05:47:51 if you are using linux, use script from the link Mar 23 05:48:51 so i take out battery when i plug in my phone-run the flasher-put back the battery Mar 23 05:48:54 right？ Mar 23 05:50:40 yes Mar 23 05:50:49 i am doing it Mar 23 05:51:04 what os you are running it on? Mar 23 05:51:15 are there any messages from the flasher? Mar 23 05:51:24 waiting Mar 23 05:51:34 what os? Mar 23 05:51:39 debian Mar 23 05:51:43 64bit? Mar 23 05:51:51 i386 Mar 23 05:52:01 the flasher cant install on 64 Mar 23 05:52:28 try different usb port? Mar 23 05:52:58 try different usb port? Mar 23 05:53:22 because nolo is unkillable, and usb is tricky sometimes Mar 23 05:54:22 phone wont boot and the flasher is still waiting Mar 23 05:54:43 another thing is trying different usb cable Mar 23 05:54:49 not all of them are made the same Mar 23 05:55:27 and n900 is unkillable Mar 23 05:55:50 so if it doesnt work at first, mostly it's about setup somewhere Mar 23 05:56:34 is there a telegram group？ Mar 23 05:58:05 this irc channel is better, just might be folks are sleeping still Mar 23 05:58:58 oh right Mar 23 05:59:03 i forget that Mar 23 06:02:37 it still not have any messages Mar 23 06:03:00 what did you try? Mar 23 06:04:56 take out battery when i plug in my phone-run the flasher-put back the battery Mar 23 06:05:08 ok, now try different usb port Mar 23 06:06:53 doing it Mar 23 06:07:21 and when you run out of port, try different usb cable. also, is battery charged? Mar 23 06:07:38 i think device wont go into flasher mode below some level Mar 23 06:09:24 if that's the case, it will be more tricky, because to start charging, it needs to run minimal os Mar 23 06:10:57 if that's the case, rescueos can be run even with broken kernel/os Mar 23 06:10:59 https://quitesimple.org/share/n900/rescueOS/rescueOS-1.3/documentation.txt Mar 23 06:15:35 it can be used to charge battery Mar 23 06:16:11 Or you can use a Nokia BL-5J/BL-4J battery charger or some other computer that uses BL-5J/BL-4J battery to charge the battery instead of using the N900 to charge the battery. Mar 23 06:16:15 nope it is not tricky Mar 23 06:16:49 yep Mar 23 06:17:03 that is the way that i am Mar 23 06:17:10 using Mar 23 06:19:10 Or even directly power the battery terminals from a mains power supply like I had to do after I broke the USB connector on my first N900 way back in 2010. Mar 23 06:39:45 the battery is ok Mar 23 06:40:08 so i did all this (zenev0) so i take out battery when i plug in my phone-run the flasher-put back the battery again Mar 23 06:40:16 it just boot to uboot Mar 23 06:40:29 and i dont open up the keyboard Mar 23 06:42:19 if it still loads uboot, then nolo (nokia loader) is ok Mar 23 06:42:26 and it's nolo job to put device in flashing mode Mar 23 06:42:40 ok so what should i do now Mar 23 06:42:45 what you might still try, press u, then put battery in Mar 23 06:42:59 1212,9ok Mar 23 06:43:10 i mean, press and hold u Mar 23 06:44:52 now the phone boot to uboot menu Mar 23 06:45:23 and the flasher says booting device into flash mode Mar 23 06:45:44 and now it says suitable usb device not found Mar 23 06:47:38 waiting Mar 23 06:48:20 try different cable Mar 23 06:48:32 and still no responding Mar 23 06:52:25 try different computer Mar 23 06:53:04 try different computer Mar 23 06:53:16 i changed the order Mar 23 06:53:55 now it flashing combined Mar 23 06:53:59 :) Mar 23 10:50:39 fixing bot Mar 23 10:57:38 charge you battery! HEHE. I'd say 90% of "flashing fails for me" is due to weak battery and user swearing the battery is totally fine Mar 23 10:59:26 pro tip to make sure USB is OK: `tail -f /var/log/syslog` or the equivalent systemd journalctl command I totally fail to recall. Should show the device enumerating Mar 23 11:00:52 or the more universal: cat /dev/kmsg Mar 23 11:01:01 bot about to resurrect Mar 23 11:01:03 http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/PC_syslog_of_USB_enum Mar 23 11:01:11 (though /dev/kmsg won't give you pretty timestamps) Mar 23 11:03:22 ~lf Mar 23 11:03:23 i heard #maemo lazyflashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware#The_Lazy_Approach Mar 23 11:05:09 a pity zenev is not online **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Mar 24 02:59:57 2019