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Apr 11 08:50:15 <sixwheeledbeast> Hmm blocking a whole subnet would be useful on the wiki right now.
Apr 11 08:58:20 <Maxdamantus> Does wiki blocking block read access, or only write access?
Apr 11 08:58:49 <Maxdamantus> I'm not really involved on TMO or the wiki, but the way maemo seems to deal with blocking seems very dodgy.
Apr 11 08:59:21 <Maxdamantus> Just require registrations in both cases, and just be reasonably strict about registration.
Apr 11 09:00:40 <bencoh> well, that was brought up quite a lot of time, but according to admin team, properly blocking read/write access would require a certain amount of work
Apr 11 09:01:06 <Maxdamantus> Right, so you just block registrations instead.
Apr 11 09:01:17 <Maxdamantus> and also disable anonymous edits on the wiki.
Apr 11 09:02:16 <Maxdamantus> that can't be any harder than having blanket IP blocks.
Apr 11 09:02:49 <bencoh> well, I suppose it can, depending on what is already implemented :)
Apr 11 09:04:01 <Maxdamantus> Seems difficult to imagine, unless it's using some load balancer that's "configured" using spring XML beans or something.
Apr 11 09:22:20 <sixwheeledbeast> The x.maemo.org blocking via IP's from spam list is separate from the wiki edit block list.
Apr 11 09:27:52 <sixwheeledbeast> From many years looking after the wiki, I have started to indefinite ban IP's that spam. I found that 6 months or what have you only worked for that period. All indefinite blocks on the wiki are edit only and I specify only unregistered users, without blocking registration.
Apr 11 09:29:10 <sixwheeledbeast> To clarify from monitoring the same IP's or subnets where coming back round after the period expired. 
Apr 11 09:29:12 <bencoh> ah, I see
Apr 11 09:30:42 <sixwheeledbeast> I imagine the IP's in the wiki list have already got past the x.maemo.org spam rules as that is pretty much a "Forbidden" type page.
Apr 11 09:32:04 <sixwheeledbeast> In fact i can confirm this by switching on Tor and getting blocked from WMO
Apr 11 09:35:01 <sixwheeledbeast> Goes to show the x.maemo.org blocking isn't perfect
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