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Jun 29 08:09:02 <DocScrutinizer05> xmn gone? A pity. Would be worth investigating options to work around or fix slide sensor
Jun 29 08:10:22 <DocScrutinizer05> (supl-proxy) can't we run a supl server on maemo.org?
Jun 29 08:11:17 <sixwheeledbeast> that was my thought
Jun 29 08:14:18 <DocScrutinizer05> *maybe* we should use ssh or ssl with individual keys users obtain from maemo suply management orga for a donation of arbitrary amount, valid 1 year. Would avoid any exploitation of the supl server infra as well
Jun 29 08:14:40 <DocScrutinizer05> s/suply/SUPL/
Jun 29 08:14:41 <infobot> DocScrutinizer05 meant: *maybe* we should use ssh or ssl with individual keys users obtain from maemo SUPL management orga for a donation of arbitrary amount, valid 1 year. Would avoid any exploitation of the supl server infra as well
Jun 29 08:16:14 <DocScrutinizer05> to test, I'd offer free test certs/keys that expire after 3 days
Jun 29 08:16:25 <sixwheeledbeast> i believe the proxy will only work with the modified certs so unlikely people will use it for anything other than maemo.
Jun 29 08:17:00 <DocScrutinizer05> and also get void when overused, by sth like fail2ban with a threshold of 100 connections / hour
Jun 29 08:17:53 <DocScrutinizer05> sixwheeledbeast: I'm talking right outa my rear, but maybe some ideas in there worth getting refinement
Jun 29 08:19:30 <DocScrutinizer05> oooh, now I get it, SUPL already _has_ cert protection, right?
Jun 29 08:20:27 <DocScrutinizer05> which I guess was one of the major sources of any troubles with SUPL during the last 10 years
Jun 29 08:22:57 <DocScrutinizer05> re xmn's "broken" device: I wonder what the heck actually broke. And I also wonder how much real trouble user would experience from a kbd slide that's considered always open. Better than always closed anyways
Jun 29 08:22:57 <Maxdamantus> Why would it need modified certs?
Jun 29 08:23:34 <Maxdamantus> Wasn't the issue just that Google started rejecting old TLS clients?
Jun 29 08:24:28 <DocScrutinizer05> could the magnet have latched up between display slide and main PCB / hallswitch and have damaged the latter? if so then in which way? just a few pins torn off the PCB?
Jun 29 08:24:42 <sixwheeledbeast> it was hosted at nokia, google one didn't work they rejected requests IIRC
Jun 29 08:24:54 <DocScrutinizer05> or does the magnet stick right on top of the hall chip and nobody noticed?
Jun 29 08:24:59 <Maxdamantus> Oh.
Jun 29 08:25:19 <DocScrutinizer05> thetre was a time google SUPL worked with N900
Jun 29 08:25:38 <DocScrutinizer05> and there was a point in time when it stopped to work
Jun 29 08:33:57 <sixwheeledbeast> i say was i believe nokia still works if you fix yo TLS hence proxy
Jun 29 09:07:40 <DocScrutinizer05> sorry, didn't parse
Jun 29 09:07:47 <DocScrutinizer05> ;-)
Jun 29 11:31:53 <sixwheeledbeast> s/\<was\>/& ,/
Jun 29 12:45:11 <sicelo> bencoh: yes supl-proxy works fine, and i agree it is a good solution. the slight problem we have is that - if the gps fails to lock (this does happen even after getting valid supl response), then even re-running the proxy doesn't help, as no further supl requests are made by the device.
Jun 29 12:45:59 <sicelo> what i tried at some point is to stop and restart location-proxy, but i couldn't get something conclusive.
Jun 29 12:46:54 <sicelo> however it seems that a new supl request does get emitted if the cellid or some such changes.
Jun 29 12:47:28 <sicelo> i'll do a brief writeup on wiki so others can also test.
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