**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jul 19 02:59:57 2019 Jul 19 02:59:59 FatPhil: Did you check if you can still buy a Nokia A/V cable on eBay? I think some of the ones I have are from eBay years ago. If you cannot find any that is feasible to acquire, I can probably give you one of the spare ones I have if you want to cover the cost of mailing it from Metro Vancouver, Canada. Jul 19 04:04:23 sunshavi: does it also close the Settings window? Would be nice to know that I'm not the only person with that problem (though for me it happens when holding `sym` + `enter`) Jul 19 04:04:51 `sym` + `backspace` for me is mapped to F13 Jul 19 04:06:03 Maxdamantus: hmmm. my case is sym + backspace. Could I disable F13 with gconf+ Jul 19 04:06:05 ? Jul 19 04:06:24 (I've observed that holding `sym` + `enter` seems to cause a bunch of the Maemo applications to close, `osso-xterm` just happens to be the only application where that seems to happen accidentally) Jul 19 04:07:04 sunshavi: your `sym` + `backspace` is probably not mapped to F13. That's just something I did myself explicitly. Jul 19 04:07:38 Maxdamantus: How could I know the exact map on my case? Jul 19 04:08:07 maxdamantus: how have you done that? Jul 19 04:09:48 sunshavi: if you have `xmodmap` installed, you can look at `xmodmap -pke | grep 'keycode \+22 ='` Jul 19 04:11:03 sunshavi: I've done it by modifying the xkb map in /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/nokia_vndr/rx-51 Jul 19 04:11:39 Maxdamantus: I remember I have done that too Jul 19 04:11:49 sunshavi: I don't think aniy of this is a solution to your problem. I'm just wondering if your problem with sym+backspace is the same as my problem with sym+enter Jul 19 04:12:50 probably if i check the modifications I did in the past to rx-51. The solution could be there Jul 19 04:12:56 on my case Jul 19 06:26:45 sunshavi: bencoh: garage took care of zile but builder was blocked so i had to restart it. Now the best thing to do is to upload again the package increasing the build number Jul 19 06:31:20 xes: I see ... thanks! Jul 19 06:31:49 bencoh: yw Jul 19 09:38:21 I bumped version number and pushed source package to drop.maemo.org again, let's see if it works ... :) Jul 19 09:41:17 woohoo http://maemo.org/packages/view/zile/ Jul 19 10:27:32 bencoh: if you're doing requests - can you do 'an' too? http://fatphil.org/words/an.html Jul 19 10:28:04 wow, just read that page for the first time in many years - there's an interesting trivium embedded within it! Jul 19 10:28:42 well, assuming it's already packaged and we still have a maemo5-friendly debian/ folder for it ... Jul 19 10:29:01 note that debian has completely rewritten their version, which has made it less useful for a serious (?) anagrammer. Jul 19 10:29:31 hmm Jul 19 10:30:01 A mate at work did an NMU for the package, and the maintainer got all pissed off by that, and wanted to prove to the world that he wasn't useless, so he broke things. Jul 19 10:30:38 >_> Jul 19 10:30:42 nothing like folks acting like 12yo girls Jul 19 10:30:43 at least that's my version of history, other versions are available! Jul 19 10:32:12 the changes he made were justified, and mine were a complete bodge (as I still belived in ISO-8859 at the time) Jul 19 10:32:30 he made it properly UTF-8 aware. Jul 19 10:32:42 (I think, I only ever anagram english) Jul 19 10:33:39 however, he removed the prioritisation of the letters, which makes anagramming so much easier (it tries to get rid of the most hard to use letters first) Jul 19 10:34:23 meh, https://salsa.debian.org/debian/an shows no debian/ folder Jul 19 10:34:29 that's pretty useless in that case :/ Jul 19 14:59:33 xes, sunshavi: looks like package import still doesn't work though Jul 19 14:59:58 http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-devel_free_armel/zile/2.3.21-3/ Jul 19 15:42:26 bencoh: http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-devel_free_i386/zile/2.3.21-3/ Jul 19 15:42:53 i think you should also take care of warnings Jul 19 21:35:33 why have automatic updates just told me CSSU has an upgrade, and then told me that I need to install a new repository (without telling me what the repo is - it looks like it's just community? Will that clash with community-testing and community-thumb? Jul 19 21:36:18 I'm perturbed that I can be told about an update to a repository it had no prior knowledge of! Jul 19 21:39:45 what was the package to be upgraded? Jul 19 21:40:10 and just community shouldn't cause any problems .. the package versions will be lower in it Jul 19 23:59:54 I don't believe it can tell you to install a repository. It's most likely CSSU Tmaemo12 update Jul 20 00:01:06 Automatic updates are run every 24 hours Jul 20 00:02:08 It will be the exact time of day you first switched on the device after flashing Jul 20 00:05:45 IT was something with CSSU and possibly maemo in the name, rather than a recognisable program. Jul 20 00:11:19 what repo was I supposed to have to have access to zile? Jul 20 00:19:26 hmmm, apt's confused - it insists qemacs isn't installed, but I did install it, and can run it. (but it's horribly buggy, so I want to purge it) Jul 20 00:26:29 ah - pebcak - qemacs-nox **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Jul 20 02:59:56 2019