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Aug 02 03:37:05 <brolin_empey> Apparently SpeedCrunch updates its history file (history.json) only when it cleanly exits, not after every statement, which could cause a significant loss to the persistent history if SpeedCrunch unexpectedly stops running, such as if it crashes or if the power to the computer is interrupted.  I should ask the developer(s) to at least add an option to update the history file after every command if not to make this new behaviour unconditional.
Aug 02 08:19:19 <sixwheeledbeast> More efficient to work like that.
Aug 02 10:49:37 <sixwheeledbeast> ~wb
Aug 02 10:49:37 <infobot> thx
Aug 02 12:05:27 <DocScrutinizer51> Fahrplan blows chunks, not only the API to DB server is broken, also it doesn't know how to activate and access GPS anymore :-/
Aug 02 12:06:34 <DocScrutinizer51> considering I helped significantly with how to design the GPS access in Fahrplan, this is kind of embarrassing to me
Aug 02 12:08:43 <DocScrutinizer51> Fahrplan been one of the killer apps on N900 for me
Aug 02 12:15:30 <DocScrutinizer51> GPStest gets a fix no problem at all
Aug 02 12:16:15 <DocScrutinizer51> sucks
Aug 02 12:17:44 <sicelo> not talking to GPS is indeed very strange. missing deps maybe?
Aug 02 12:18:17 <DocScrutinizer51> no idea. modrana works flawlessly
Aug 02 12:19:33 <DocScrutinizer51> closing modrana the sat dish icon in systray vanishes. starting it shows. But starting Fahrplan zilch shows
Aug 02 12:20:17 <DocScrutinizer51> afk, driving
Aug 02 12:21:06 <sicelo> i've never used Fahrplan (we don't have those kinds of services here), but I'd wonder if Fahrplan *did* activate GPS in the past
Aug 02 12:26:26 <sixwheeledbeast> May only call GPS on a lookup request?
Aug 02 12:27:01 <sixwheeledbeast> I have never used it either but I believe it used GPS to plan transport routes.
Aug 02 15:24:11 <peetah> argggghhhhh ! I 've just started my n900 again after 3 or 4 years unused ... I can't read UI anymore : font size is too small ! How can 3 or 4 years make someone age that much ?
Aug 02 15:26:43 <sicelo> count the 3 or 4 years in days :)
Aug 02 15:27:44 <peetah> more seriously, I upgraded to the latest maemo-cssu, but is there any place with a changelog of what was accomplished on this platform since 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo12 (27.11.2017)  ?
Aug 02 15:29:54 <sicelo> CSSU is now frozen (or, dead)
Aug 02 15:30:41 <peetah> this means that all the work has been shifted towards maemo-leste ?
Aug 02 15:31:07 <peetah> is it usable as yet ?
Aug 02 15:32:11 <sicelo> CSSU got frozen because backporting stuff got harder and harder for the small team :(
Aug 02 15:32:22 <sicelo> Leste ... it's still Alpha.
Aug 02 15:33:06 <sicelo> but coming along steadily, considering the size of the team :)
Aug 02 15:33:13 <peetah> alpha and actively developped or, just alpha ;) ?
Aug 02 15:33:28 <peetah> nice
Aug 02 15:34:32 <sicelo> actively developed :p
Aug 02 15:37:07 <sicelo> #maemo-leste
Aug 02 15:40:09 <peetah> thanks !
Aug 02 15:41:46 <peetah> I have a n900 with non working phone functionality that I can use to test it during the summer
Aug 02 17:07:21 <sixwheeledbeast> no modem is prolly fine for leste
Aug 02 19:42:28 <DocScrutinizer05> >>I'd wonder if Fahrplan *did* activate GPS in the past<< It definitely did
Aug 02 19:43:57 <DocScrutinizer05> waited some time to give GPS a cjhance for a fix (don't know whether it checked precision as I suggested, or just cecked for a fix d-bus messgae or even just implemented a delay), the it enabled the "GPS" buttons 
Aug 02 19:44:57 <DocScrutinizer05> and it stopped location service when you closed Fahrplan
Aug 02 19:46:25 <DocScrutinizer05> the purpose of GPS: "you" enter your current geo-coords and the DB server finds closest bus / subway stop 
Aug 02 19:47:45 <DocScrutinizer05> >>after 3 or 4 years unused ... I can't read UI anymore : font size is too small ! << welcome to the club. I also can't read that stuff anymore without glasses
Aug 02 19:48:17 <DocScrutinizer05> and yes, that problem got MASSIVE during just 2 or 3 years for me
Aug 02 19:54:48 <sicelo> what should those of us who still can see it do?
Aug 02 19:55:45 <sixwheeledbeast> never liked the nokia font tbh i have had buntu font for years much nicer on the eyes
Aug 02 21:06:59 <DocScrutinizer05> sicelo: I think you should keep accessability in mind when developing anything. In reply to what you shall do
Aug 02 21:07:54 <DocScrutinizer05> those low contrast tiny font designs are a PITA even with sharp eyesight
Aug 03 01:25:15 <brolin_empey> I still have uncorrected vision at age 32 years but I feel like my eyesight is deteriorating but I keep procrastinating about having my eyesight tested again.
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