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Sep 22 03:51:09 <luke-jr> lol?
Sep 22 05:03:06 <brolin_empey> luke-jr: ?
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Sep 22 06:56:45 <sixwheeledbeast> brolin_empey: yes 1TB on uSD
Sep 22 06:57:29 <sixwheeledbeast> They have released a new standard last year for upto 128TB on uSD
Sep 22 06:59:42 <sixwheeledbeast> Obviously they will take a while but the standard is there.
Sep 22 06:59:57 <sixwheeledbeast> the 1 TB are around 750CAD BTW
Sep 22 07:05:35 <Maxdamantus> (note though that the standard is fairly irrelevant as far as Maemo/N900 is concerned, since the requirement of devices is simply to handle the large cards, which Linux/Maemo already do)
Sep 22 07:06:14 <Maxdamantus> (that is, Linux will already handle cards that are probably much larger than TBs)
Sep 22 07:35:30 <sixwheeledbeast> I assume it would depend on the file system tho
Sep 22 07:36:47 <brolin_empey> sixwheeledbeast: Wow, I bought a 1-TB 2.5-inch SATA SSD in 2018 August for approximately 250 CAD.  The mSATA equivalent SSD was close to the same price if I recall correctly.  If it matters, the drive I bought is a WDC WDS100T2B0A.
Sep 22 07:37:59 <Maxdamantus> Sure, but SD cards are not limited to a particular filesystem. The fact that devices are "required" to use exFAT is also irrelevant to Maemo, since you can just put whatever filesystem happens to be supported by the actual device (fat32, ext4 should both support 1 TB on Maemo)
Sep 22 07:38:32 <Maxdamantus> s/put/put on/
Sep 22 07:38:33 <infobot> Maxdamantus meant: Sure, but SD cards are not limited to a particular filesystem. The fact that devices are "required" to use exFAT is also irrelevant to Maemo, since you can just put on whatever filesystem happens to be supported by the actual device (fat32, ext4 should bo...
Sep 22 07:39:56 <sixwheeledbeast> brolin_empey: they are about 210CAD for the same now.
Sep 22 07:41:52 <brolin_empey> Does anyone use a single (V)FAT volume as large as 1 TB in practice?  Is that feasible even if you can live with the small maximum file size for (V)FAT?
Sep 22 07:43:53 <Maxdamantus> I'm sure there are plenty of people who do.
Sep 22 07:44:47 <Maxdamantus> If you want a filesystem that can portably be used between macOS and Windows, I think the main options for normal users are vFAT and exFAT.
Sep 22 07:45:14 <sixwheeledbeast> I don't see why not think most games consoles are FAT so if you want to back them up you need a large FAT partition.
Sep 22 07:45:17 <Maxdamantus> and exFAT is obviously relatively new.
Sep 22 07:45:49 <Maxdamantus> Personally, I just use ext4 on my Maemo's SD card.
Sep 22 07:46:46 <sixwheeledbeast> Think I switched to ext4 with my two swap partitions on the end.
Sep 22 07:46:50 <Maxdamantus> (I don't have any non-Linux machines, and I don't normally intend on mounting the filesystem outside the device anyway)
Sep 22 07:47:16 <brolin_empey> In my experience, MS-DOS/FreeDOS seems more relevant in practice than Mac OS X.
Sep 22 07:47:18 <Maxdamantus> Yeah, I also use swap on the SD card.
Sep 22 07:48:18 <brolin_empey> And Mac OS <=9 too.
Sep 22 07:57:37 * brolin_empey still uses some software and hardware that predates Mac OS X.
Sep 22 09:13:57 <sixwheeledbeast> ?
Sep 22 09:15:51 <DocScrutinizer05> cleaned q queue
Sep 22 09:16:45 <DocScrutinizer05> https://pastebin.com/Lec867qd
Sep 22 09:17:41 <sixwheeledbeast> ah -q 
Sep 22 09:18:42 <sixwheeledbeast> Not seen those names in a good while
Sep 22 09:35:02 <DocScrutinizer05> feel free to clean +b
Sep 22 09:36:31 <sixwheeledbeast> lol
Sep 22 09:39:29 <sixwheeledbeast> chatter29 :shudder:
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