**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Nov 05 02:59:58 2019 Nov 05 09:31:27 are batteries supposed to last two years only? Nov 05 09:31:49 is li-po as bad as li-ion? Nov 05 09:32:26 depends. as always Nov 05 09:32:37 on build quality, usage pattern, accidents etc Nov 05 09:32:59 li-* life is counted in 'cycles' Nov 05 09:33:00 im thinking of getting redmi note 8 pro which has 4.5a li-po battery Nov 05 09:33:17 so if you use it less, it lives longer Nov 05 09:33:41 but if you use device a lot (or it's just poorly optimized), it drains a lot and charges a lot Nov 05 18:30:33 lithium expected life is around 2 yr Nov 05 18:31:12 based around 1 cycle per day Nov 05 20:44:50 shelf life is 5 years Nov 05 20:45:33 though usually much longer, that's just the guaranteed specs Nov 05 20:47:39 then, a poorly designed device that doesn't shut down completely (RTC etc) might well drain the battery beyond recharge threshold in less than one year Nov 05 20:47:55 when stored away on shelf Nov 05 22:16:47 lol guaranteed **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Nov 06 03:00:06 2019