**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Nov 19 02:59:58 2019 Nov 19 03:27:32 why does https://maemo.org/packages/ require login? where do i browse the packages without logging in? Nov 19 03:29:07 gry: rm the 's' from https. :) Nov 19 03:31:47 That works. Thank you. How do I install lighttpd on a n900? At the moment I get http://dpaste.com/2WZ2J55.txt . Nov 19 03:33:30 sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock Nov 19 03:34:45 sunshavi: Thanks. Nov 19 03:34:49 sunshavi: "root is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported." <-- Haha. Removed the "sudo". That worked. Nov 19 03:34:53 sunshavi: Now I have http://dpaste.com/2FHW0SB.txt Nov 19 03:35:33 i do not remember the exact cmd probably install sudser Nov 19 03:35:39 for getting sudo working Nov 19 03:35:46 let me check my n900 Nov 19 03:36:46 yes it is sudser Nov 19 03:37:12 for now you need to know ur root pwd Nov 19 03:39:23 sunshavi: yes, I know my root password; how do I resolve the dependency problem in the last paste? Nov 19 04:19:49 download manually libpcre3 Nov 19 04:20:09 hmm Nov 19 04:20:12 from https//maemo.org/packages/ Nov 19 04:20:45 and use dpkg -i libprce3xyz.deb Nov 19 04:20:52 this has separate downloads for separate architectures Nov 19 04:20:57 and i don't know my architecture Nov 19 04:21:01 armel Nov 19 04:21:19 and also freemantle Nov 19 04:21:25 Fremantle SDK free armel libpcre3 6.7-1osso1+r1 Nov 19 04:21:28 this is ok? Nov 19 04:21:29 the last one was just in case Nov 19 04:21:37 i guess. yes Nov 19 04:22:22 "-sh: wget: not found" excellent.. what package is that, please, if you remember? o_O Nov 19 04:24:18 let me check Nov 19 04:25:15 rc wget 1.10.2-2osso3 retrieves files from the web Nov 19 04:25:15 Nov 19 04:25:25 the name is wget Nov 19 04:27:08 ok, thanks so much Nov 19 04:30:03 lighttpd is installing now; thanks for your help, sunshavi Nov 19 04:31:49 yw Nov 19 04:31:59 i may also need php, but 'apt-cache search php' returned no relevant results as i can see Nov 19 04:32:13 http://dpaste.com/0R3RQHN.txt Nov 19 04:33:35 maybe i should add extras-devel, http://maemo.org/packages/view/php5/ Nov 19 04:34:25 now you know. You can install it manually. If not there compile it Nov 19 04:34:40 ok, thanks Nov 19 04:35:34 at the right sido on http://maemo.org/packages there is info about the last compiled packages. People still compile some maemo packages Nov 19 04:37:21 s/sido/side/ Nov 19 04:37:22 sunshavi meant: at the right side on http://maemo.org/packages there is info about the last compiled packages. People still compile some maemo packages Nov 19 07:01:50 sixwheeledbeast: I realise that “BIOS” is commonly (mis)used to mean “(motherboard) firmware” even though the IBM PC/AT compatible BIOS seems to have been largely replaced by the (u)EFI in the x86 computer market but I thought that an Intel x86 platform motherboard, at least a desktop/workstation/server/notebook one, that has a literal BIOS as opposed to EFI is necessarily old because apparently all COTS motherboards use only EFI, not BIOS, beginning Nov 19 07:01:50 somewhere after Nehalem. Nov 19 07:05:05 By “Intel x86 platform motherboard” I mean all brands of motherboards that use an x86 platform from Intel, not only Intel brand of motherboards. Nov 19 07:12:29 I have not been following recent developments in the AMD x86 market but I guess that somewhat recent motherboards for an AMD x86 platform are the same as somewhat recent motherboards for an Intel x86 platform in that most if not all motherboards now use EFI instead of BIOS. Is there any Ryzen era or Socket AM3 or newer (Socket AM4) motherboard that still uses BIOS instead of EFI? Nov 19 07:25:49 sunshavi: if all you need is changing/removing audio track, avconv/ffmpeg will re-mux the file without re-encoding (much faster) Nov 19 11:04:54 sudser is BS. use `root` Nov 19 11:07:04 sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock strongly deprecated, you just wait until apt-worker did its thing Nov 19 11:07:29 you mean 'discouraged' Nov 19 11:08:10 I mean PFUIBAH! Nov 19 11:12:27 sunshavi: hmm, I wrote a gstreamer-based video player that allows cycling through audio track as well Nov 19 11:12:46 (and it benefits from hardware video decoding as well, since it's gstreamer-based) Nov 19 11:13:22 it's known in olden times HAM started apt-worker backend which locked the dpkg database for up to 1ß minutes after closing HAM. Fix: get speedyham/cssu and don't use HAM at all when you want to use apt/dpkg Nov 19 11:13:35 I have never released it though ... if you want to try it: http://muarf.org/~bencoh/maemo/gstkplay Nov 19 11:13:45 (press # to cycle through audio) Nov 19 11:13:55 hi bencoh Nov 19 11:13:59 DocScrutinizer05: hey there :) Nov 19 11:14:51 apropos: `root` is an alias for gainroot Nov 19 11:15:52 which still is the only one of two supported ways to gain root, ssh root@localhost being the other one Nov 19 11:16:23 iirc sudser fubars your system Nov 19 11:18:02 by fubar I mean: reflash to fix, uninstall won'tdo shit Nov 19 11:18:44 the sudo system in maemo is a tad... special Nov 19 11:19:31 it been ahead of its time, implementing stuff like sudoers.d/* when official sudo package zpstream didn't have any of that yet Nov 19 11:20:04 * KotCzarny uses rootsh app Nov 19 11:20:30 that's the one. gainroot comes with rootsh Nov 19 11:21:02 ~jrtools Nov 19 11:21:03 from memory, jrtools is http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools Nov 19 11:22:23 http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools#.22root.22_your_device Nov 19 11:57:58 for my sync question a couple of days ago, i want to try syncevolution(n900) + radicale (server) + davx5 (android/fdroid) for syncing contacts bettween n900 & sgs7 Nov 19 11:58:16 crossing fingers that it'll work Nov 19 11:59:29 good luck! :-) Nov 19 12:02:59 apropos gainroot, it's`sudo gainroot` Nov 19 12:03:20 aka `root` Nov 19 12:06:23 i installed sudser on 2010. and never looked back again Nov 19 12:07:51 it has do the work for me. without issues. If I reflash I could re-though it. I use it from my times with N800 (the best tablet far away cos of the dpad) Nov 19 14:18:47 ~sudser Nov 19 14:57:26 bencoh: thanks. It works Nov 19 14:57:40 :) Nov 19 14:58:50 sunshavi: http://pastebin.notk.org/pastebin.php?show=f4ef8e805 for the full shortcuts list Nov 19 14:59:40 (I eventually disabled subtitles though, so cycling through text won't do anything unless I'm mistaken) Nov 19 15:00:36 (and I really need to commit/push that code ...) Nov 19 15:03:21 and actually it helps also cos tracker does not activate on every video playback Nov 19 15:03:44 yes about subtitles. this video has subtitles and it is not showing up Nov 19 15:08:59 this is just an idea. But perhaps could be possible converting youtube-dl to a binary app on n900. I have read it is possible to convert a python script to binary. :). Who knows maybe someday. youtube-dl changes almost once a month Nov 19 15:09:20 sunshavi: not going to happen just because of that Nov 19 15:09:30 better to keep it as a script Nov 19 15:10:20 sunshavi: you can use my player with cutetube Nov 19 15:10:43 regarding subtitles, enabling them just kills performances Nov 19 15:11:06 ok. not an issue at all then Nov 19 15:11:09 :) Nov 19 15:11:24 cutetube is not working on my device Nov 19 15:12:03 either it's a libsoup/tls issue (fmg released a fixed version on tmo), or cutetube stopped working altogether Nov 19 15:12:11 i have tried fmg last version. But video is not playing Nov 19 15:12:29 isnt there cutetube2 or something? Nov 19 15:12:37 KotCzarny: sure, I mean cutetube2 :) Nov 19 15:12:38 it searches. But it does not play Nov 19 15:12:50 :) Nov 19 15:13:15 I'll have to try that later here Nov 19 15:13:41 we checked with maxdamantus. He helped me. But we did not get it working on my device. Nov 19 15:14:57 bencoh: I am going to try to use gstkplay with cutetube and see where it leads Nov 19 15:21:59 bencoh: it did not worked. perhaps tls is the issue who knows Nov 19 15:48:19 lemme check here Nov 19 15:51:50 here cutetube2 fails retrieving the video formats list ... Nov 19 15:52:13 I probably need to update cutetube or qyoutube, but ... Nov 19 15:59:57 yup, works with latest qyoutube (built from github.com/fmg) Nov 19 16:00:16 and gstkplay is playing a https url Nov 19 16:06:15 I think you need an patched gstreamer/soup plugin for that, but I don't quite remember to be honest ... Nov 19 16:07:25 let's see my versions Nov 19 16:09:43 hmm it doesn't look like I patched gst-plugins-good here, so libsoup might be enough Nov 19 16:09:59 https://termbin.com/aj6x Nov 19 16:10:23 2.30.2-1+squeeze1+0m5 same here Nov 19 16:10:44 I also have 2.26.3-3maemo0 but I suppose that one is not used (?) Nov 19 16:11:10 i do not have that one Nov 19 16:11:47 have You compiled cutetube2?. Could that be the issue? Nov 19 16:12:02 cutetube2 is from extras(-devel iirc) Nov 19 16:12:27 i have got mine from tmo Nov 19 16:12:27 I just recompiled qyoutube http://muarf.org/~bencoh/maemo/qyoutube_0.1.9-2_armel.deb Nov 19 16:12:51 cutetube2 0.5.2 Nov 19 16:15:23 Setting up qyoutube (0.1.9-2) ... Nov 19 16:15:28 i am going to try it now Nov 19 16:16:29 yes Nov 19 16:16:29 it should only fix the "no stream found" issue Nov 19 16:16:32 it works Nov 19 16:16:34 yay :) Nov 19 16:16:46 that was the issue Nov 19 16:16:53 bencoh: thanks Nov 19 16:16:56 yw :) Nov 19 16:17:34 oh by the way, the main reason I eventually decided to use it with cutetube is to avoid the video tearing issues Nov 19 16:18:21 cutetube2 (and probably every qt/phonon video player on n900) shows some tearing (probably due to how the qt/gst bridge works) Nov 19 16:18:28 mmm. by dft i have open media player. probably it should work too. But the best thing is playing youtube videos (video podcast). i follow several ones Nov 19 16:19:05 for some reason mediaplayer does not always play here Nov 19 16:19:38 it somehow fails to load media ... and reloading mafw-gst usually helps with that Nov 19 16:19:47 at some point I gave up on it Nov 19 16:20:24 good to know. probably first time i am going to watch youtube videos on n900 Nov 19 16:20:29 and I've always wanted a lightweight player with mplayer-like bindings/behavior anyway Nov 19 16:21:03 yes. but mplayer is resource hog. And does not play best quality for n900 videos Nov 19 16:21:04 haha, I check/fix it on mine from time to time, but I hardly ever use it for real either Nov 19 16:21:23 which is why I implemented gstkplayer as a replacement, yeah :) Nov 19 16:21:38 (wasn't that hard either to be honest) Nov 19 16:22:53 it is time. You know. i have used gstreamer for playing audio on n800. the commands were not easily found. It differs from my workstation commands (time has happened). Nov 19 16:23:39 Using gst-launch is just a horrible experience :) Nov 19 16:23:53 that's the one i was using Nov 19 16:24:04 1.0 or 0.1? :P Nov 19 16:24:12 both are horrible I'd say :> Nov 19 16:24:27 (but yeah gst-launch is just meant for debugging the gst API, not to actually use in 'production') Nov 19 16:24:35 i do not remember exactly. But let me see what i have on my n900 Nov 19 16:24:57 * dreamer is guilty of using gst-launch directly despite all warnings not to Nov 19 16:25:24 i have used most time n800 than n900 Nov 19 16:26:56 this is my line: exec gst-launch-1.0 filesrc location="$1" ! $MY_AUDIO_CODEC ! $MY_OUT_PLUGIN Nov 19 16:31:29 https://termbin.com/j8wx Nov 19 16:53:35 sunshavi: iirc MaxD mentioned that youtube-dl works in EasyDeb, s/cu Nov 19 16:54:09 ah, error Nov 19 17:03:29 yes. within a chroot Nov 19 17:08:21 there is gst123 Nov 19 17:08:33 which simplifies interacting with gstreamer Nov 19 17:17:12 kotczarny: i did not know at that time Nov 19 18:57:34 Yes, I use it in a debian chroot (just regular debian, haven't used easydeb) Nov 19 19:01:09 You don't need to build it either, just check out and directly run `youtube_dl/__main__.py` (I have that symlinked to make it easier) Nov 19 19:01:44 It has some optional compilation step which seems to just bundle the sources into a single file. Nov 19 19:05:25 It might have a faster startup time when using the compiled version. Without compilation, `youtube-dl --help` takes 8 seconds, but since I usually only use it when I have very slow internet speeds available, that extra startup time isn't particularly important for me. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Nov 20 02:59:58 2019