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Dec 21 03:52:29 <Maxdamantus> Funny, if you try to dial *88# instead of *99#, the 208's UI goes all glitchy.
Dec 21 03:54:15 <Maxdamantus> actually, I guess it just causes something to restart.
Dec 21 04:58:29 <brolin_empey> My first “mobile telephone” was a Nokia 6103b running Series 40, in 2008.
Dec 21 06:02:59 <sicelo> Maxdamantus: i've never needed to edit the dummy network. you just start the pppd connection in terminal, and when it's establised, you connect to the dummy network. should work transparently
Dec 21 06:27:49 <Maxdamantus> sicelo: right, but how do you connect the dummy network? Is it meant to appear in the GUI, or are you meant to call something over dbus or something?
Dec 21 08:07:06 <sicelo> it should be in gui
Dec 21 08:20:21 <Maxdamantus> So that means it should be visible at all time as a possible connection?
Dec 21 08:20:41 * Maxdamantus wonders if he needs to restart something other than icd
Dec 21 08:23:28 <Maxdamantus> When I run a dbus command that I suspect should connect to the dummy network, I get the "Internet connection failed. Try again?" dialogue.
Dec 21 08:33:08 <Maxdamantus> I'm actually not too sure where I'm meant to install it from. It doesn't seem to be under any of the apt repositories I'm using, so I just took it from "nokia-binaries"
Dec 21 08:34:53 <Maxdamantus> Are you using some version of it other than "0.13+0m5"?
Dec 21 09:00:40 <brolin_empey> This situation reminds me of trying to use a USB↔Ethernet adapter instead of the integrated Wireless LAN controller on an Android smartphone, where some software seems to incorrectly assume that the computer is not internetworked because it is not connected to a Wireless LAN, even though the market introduction of Ethernet predates the shipping of the original IBM Personal Computer.
Dec 21 09:02:45 <brolin_empey> I thought of a hypothetical question but it has probably happened in practice so I guess it is not only hypothetical: If 1979 is the last model year of the Volkswagen Type 1 that is street-legal in Canada and the USA but the 1980 to 2003 (final model year, produced in Mexico and even offered with an audio CD player as standard equipment) inclusive Type 1 is street-legal in Mexico, is it legal to drive a 1980 or later Type 1 that is licensed and insured in 
Dec 21 09:02:45 <brolin_empey> Mexico across the border to the USA or even Canada, where only the 1979 and earlier Type 1 is street-legal?  I am assuming that even the final 2003 Type 1 is street-legal in Mexico because the Type 1 was still produced in Mexico until the final 2003 model year.
Dec 21 09:34:15 <sicelo> Maxdamantus: sorry for taking long
Dec 21 09:35:29 <sicelo> i installed libicd-network-null ... wiki says this is is better than -dummy
Dec 21 09:36:06 <sicelo> and yes, the connectuon should always be visible in the selection dialog
Dec 21 09:39:26 <sicelo> as for restarting icd, perhaps a reboot might be easier? :-)
Dec 21 10:11:53 <Maxdamantus> sicelo: ah, cool, that one does indeed seem to work.
Dec 21 10:33:46 <sicelo> that's great :)
Dec 21 10:34:23 <sicelo> pidgin is the only application that seems to have issues even when dummy network is on.
Dec 21 10:36:29 <sicelo> s/that/i used which/
Dec 21 10:36:29 <infobot> sicelo meant: pidgin is the only application i used which seems to have issues even when dummy network is on.
Dec 21 15:21:21 <drathir> Maxdamantus: just idea check if default route is auto set...
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