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Dec 31 07:48:32 * enyc meows
Dec 31 07:50:06 <enyc> brolin_empey: hrrm some would say such backward-compatibiltiy to that extent is cruft or allwo security issues, it depends
Dec 31 07:50:20 <enyc> brolin_empey: when should somethin just be emulated, etc.
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