**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jan 21 02:59:56 2020 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jan 21 13:30:05 2020 Jan 21 15:38:13 What does “EUC” mean in the context of a used microwave oven for sale? Jan 21 16:04:25 excellent used condition? Jan 21 16:10:47 Maybe, had not thought of that. Jan 21 18:40:50 I received the order of KingSpec mSATA SSDs today (Tuesday) but have not yet received the 2.5-inch SATA drive cases for the mSATA SSDs. Jan 21 18:43:26 Apparently the controller used by these mSATA SSDs, at least the 1-TB model, is SM2258XT, if that makes a difference. I do not know if the XT part is part of the controller name. Jan 21 18:48:55 Apparently the XT part is part of the name of the controller. Jan 21 19:14:55 At least for the 1-TB model, the drive has three bright blue LEDs on the side of the board without the label stuck on. Apparently the BIOS on the Asus K8N desktop motherboard from 2004 correctly detects this drive even though the SATA host controller integrated on this motherboard is only SATA 1.5 Gib/s without automatic negotiation capability. Apparently Debian GNU+Linux 7 has finished booting from the 2-TB 2.5-inch SATA HDD I plan to manually clone onto Jan 21 19:14:55 this 1-TB mSATA SSD. So everything seems good so far. Jan 21 19:25:10 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-c9BWvg_SWw8/XidMVJnHP-I/AAAAAAAAD8Y/rIW0GWYxHMwnKxAj7hdqg16-n3mmti81QCK8BGAsYHg/s0/2020-01-21.jpg Jan 21 19:25:43 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-qjMgwax8kAE/XidL7Qqa89I/AAAAAAAAD8M/BBhaJhPZD5cUqin4w12a9P8VGhugETgAQCK8BGAsYHg/s0/2020-01-21.jpg Jan 21 21:08:12 Apparently one of these LEDs blinks when writing to the drive. I started the rsync wet/non-dry run to copy the contents of the file system from the HDD to the new mSATA SSD. Jan 21 21:34:02 I started automagically cloning a 1-TB 2.5-inch SATA hybrid HDD onto a 1-TB mSATA SSD with HDClone on my office computer running Windows 10, with one drive connected via eSATA and the other drive connected via SuperSpeed USB 3. Jan 22 00:25:13 The automagically cloned mSATA SSD boots and seems to work but I booted it on a Core 2 tower computer to test because I cannot properly install the mSATA drive in the Dell PowerEdge 2950 server computer until I receive the 2.5-inch SATA drive cases for mSATA drives. Jan 22 01:17:01 Where is the default date 1/1/2009 stored? Because I am quite tired of having to scroll to 2020 every time the battery discharges to beyond ability to remember date and time. Jan 22 01:17:22 lol Jan 22 01:17:39 And yes, I should replace the tiny round battery - it's all green, rusty and nasty, by now. Jan 22 01:17:52 my 10 year old just got the interest to fiddle with my old Zaurus SL-C760 ;) Jan 22 01:20:41 Nice. My 8yo brother is so frustrated by Linux monopoly at our home that he is demanding a Windows computer. He already has an iPad. And he sees lots of Windows computers and iPads at school. Jan 22 01:21:38 I would like to figure out which open-source operating system is even more radical than Linux. Bonus points if it can run Hildon desktop. Jan 22 01:21:51 Gentoo? Darwin? Jan 22 01:30:12 Oksanaa: Gentoo is a GNU+Linux distribution. ;-) Jan 22 01:31:00 Yes, I know. Too similar to Debian, I guess? Though, compiling software from source code has its own nice points. Jan 22 01:31:22 But something like micro-kernel would be nice. Jan 22 01:31:42 MenuetOS or KolibriOS? FreeDOS? QNX? NixOS? Jan 22 01:32:32 eComStation? Jan 22 01:34:02 MenuetOS is monolithic kernel, and 64bit is closed-source. Jan 22 01:34:50 Linux is a monolithic kernel too but evolved to support loadable kernel modules. Jan 22 01:35:08 FreeBSD or maybe NetBSD? Jan 22 01:35:18 KolibriOS is monolithic as well, and I don't see whether it is available for 64bit. Jan 22 01:36:20 OpenSolaris or one of its variants or derivatives? Jan 22 01:37:05 QNX uses a microkernel. Jan 22 01:37:38 I would not say that Gentoo is similar to Debian. Jan 22 01:37:51 Fuchsia, a grand-child of Haiku, is interesting. Jan 22 01:38:40 Gentoo portage is modelled after FreeBSD ports. Jan 22 01:40:07 OpenSolaris is discontinued, OSDyson is one of its derivatives. Jan 22 01:41:01 Maemo is discontinued too. Jan 22 01:42:00 See https://www.osdyson.org/projects/dyson/wiki Jan 22 01:43:55 A person born in around 2012, when Windows 8 was released, may be so young that they have not actually used the original Windows series, which ended with Windows Me (Windows 4.90) in 2000, as opposed to the Windows NT series. Jan 22 01:46:49 Windows Me... Don't remember. I have used Windows XP, ages ago. Windows 2000, before that. Don't remember Windows Me. Jan 22 01:49:29 Microsoft Windows has three series or families, not only Windows NT. The original Windows series was current from 1985 to 2000 inclusive and was only released for x86. The Windows NT series was first released in 1993, is still current, and has always been released for multiple architectures in addition to x86. The Windows CE series was first released in… around 1996? and has also always been released for multiple architectures including x86 but seems to Jan 22 01:49:29 be increasingly historical for new product designs since Microsoft finally ported Windows NT to ARM. Jan 22 01:52:47 Windows XP and Windows 2000 are both marketing names for versions of Windows NT 5.x . Microsoft decided to stop using Windows NT as a marketing name during the development of Windows NT 5.0, which was marketed as Windows 2000 for the final release but originally used the name Windows NT 5.0 during development. Jan 22 01:57:44 I believe that Microsoft was still using the name Windows NT 5.0 in 1998. The final release (RTM) was as Windows 2000 in 1999 December with general availability/retail release on 2000‑02‑17. Jan 22 02:01:55 Confusingly, the successor to Windows 98 is Windows Me, not Windows 2000, which is the successor to Windows NT 4.0 . Jan 22 02:12:12 “64-bit” is not a specific architecture. Intel tried to replace x86-32 AKA IA-32 with Itanium AKA IA-64, which was a commercial failure so Intel ended up creating their own implementation of what became known as x86-64, which was originally created by AMD as the natural evolution of the x86 architecture from 32 to 64 bits. Jan 22 02:20:20 64-bit Windows XP was originally Windows XP for Itanium in 2001 until Windows XP for x86-64 shipped in 2005 but Windows XP for x86-64 is based on Windows Server 2003 and is only Windows XP Service Pack 2 even though Service Pack 3 is the final service pack for Windows XP, which means that something that requires Windows XP Service Pack 3 is not compatible with Windows XP for x86-64. If I recall correctly, Windows XP Service Pack 3 was released only for x86- Jan 22 02:20:20 32. Jan 22 02:29:57 Mac OS X running on a non-Intel x86 CPU usually implies a Hackintosh because Apple uses only the Intel x86 platform for publicly released products. Jan 22 02:39:53 APT on Debian can be used to build a package from source. You do not need to use Gentoo nor a similar distribution (SourceMage?) if you often want to build packages from source by yourself instead of using packages built by someone else. Jan 22 02:46:22 Sure, it is possible. And on Gentoo it might be possible to install a pre-compiled package, instead of compiling it from source code? Jan 22 02:49:31 I stopped using Gentoo in 2008 because I prefer Debian-based distributions but, at least as of 2008, Gentoo portage did contain some prebuilt packages, yes. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Jan 22 03:01:07 2020