**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu May 07 02:59:57 2020 May 07 08:36:53 One reason of keeping thumb as a separate flavour is due to this issue IIRC May 07 08:38:49 separate flavpur, meaning? May 07 08:39:43 s/flavpur/flavour/ May 07 08:39:43 sicelo meant: separate flavour, meaning? May 07 08:42:02 CSSU "flavour" May 07 08:42:42 keeping Testing, separate May 07 08:43:45 https://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Thumb May 07 08:45:12 Okay May 07 08:47:39 CSSU-Thumb is based on CSSU-Testing flavor, but uses a very low level patch to kernel to overcome the bugs in OMAP chip related to thumb/ARM mixed code. Thus the binaries from CSSU-Thumb will not work in a "normal system", and several things like uBoot or flashing --flash-only=kernel stop working the way they used to, and you need to take special May 07 08:47:39 care regarding the changed behaviour of those. May 07 08:49:57 kirito: your system is fine now? May 07 09:04:11 Yes, I haven’t been able to restore my rootfs image. Installed a clean system, but without u-boot. I used u-boot to run the OS on a flash drive https://maemo-leste.github.io/ May 07 09:06:00 what was your system before u-boot? was it Thumb? May 07 09:06:38 u-boot can be used without a PC, using the sudo ./0xFFFF -m test / u-boot-2013.04-2.bin -l command. The l attribute only loads into RAM without flashing to memory. May 07 09:07:17 sicelo Yes May 07 09:08:22 yes @u-boot ...that's basically how it gets installed in the first place :-p May 07 09:08:48 anyway, so you need to restorr your rootfs, or not really? May 07 09:09:41 I already set everything up again May 07 09:10:46 cool May 07 09:12:11 by the way ... that u-boot command you wrote above ... you might as well load the kernel you want to use, not u-boot May 07 09:14:05 also, N900 is notorious for weak USB port, so if you'll need to be loading other kernels frequently, you should lo at seting up u-boot properly May 07 09:16:42 As I understand it, there is no Thumb2 kernel under U-Boot May 07 09:19:56 there is May 07 09:20:17 i linked to it about 10 hours ago May 07 09:28:52 which kernel do you have installed? please show your output for `dpkg -l kernel-* | grep ^ii` (pastebin) May 07 09:31:57 home/user/0xFFFF # dpkg -l kernel-* | grep ^ii No packages found matching kernel-RX-51:2204_2.6.28-20103103+0m5. May 07 09:34:11 Mmm, that's your only output? May 07 09:34:37 why not just dpkg -l|grep kernel May 07 09:35:41 /home/user/0xFFFF # dpkg -l | grep kernel May 07 09:35:43 lists too many other things, e.g. libdrm2 :-) May 07 09:35:43 ii kernel-cssu 1:2.6.28-10cssu3 Flashable Linux kernel (kernel cssu 2.6.28.1 May 07 09:35:45 ii kernel-cssu-flasher 1:2.6.28-10cssu3 Linux kernel updater (kernel cssu 2.6.28.10) May 07 09:35:47 ii kernel-cssu-modules 1:2.6.28-10cssu3 Linux kernel modules (kernel cssu 2.6.28.10) May 07 09:35:49 rc kernel-modules 2.6.28-20103103+0m5 Linux kernel modules May 07 09:35:51 ii libdrm2 2.3.1-3 Userspace interface to kernel DRM services - May 07 09:35:53 ii module-init-tools 3.4-1maemo5+0m5 tools for managing Linux kernel modules May 07 09:36:22 sicelo: but at least gets some output ;) May 07 09:36:47 this works too (at least it works on mine) May 07 09:37:16 might be shell matched some kernel-* files in current dir May 07 09:37:35 that's why it should be 'kernel-*' May 07 09:37:52 k1r1t0: right. install kernel-cssu-bootimg May 07 09:38:31 Can I do without u-boot and use bootmenu? May 07 09:39:04 kirito: there is nothing wrong with u-boot :-) May 07 09:41:16 if you plan on playing with Leste and other OSes, u-boot is your best option. we'll help you set it up May 07 09:41:53 (fwiw, i have u-boot + thumb here on my n900) May 07 09:42:49 to answer your question directly, no you can't use bootmenu one ... well it's not going to be useful. May 07 09:43:05 s/one/alone/ May 07 09:43:05 sicelo meant: to answer your question directly, no you can't use bootmenu alone ... well it's not going to be useful. May 07 09:43:22 You understand that there are three options for CSSU: stable and testable + SSU / Thumb community which is fundamentally different May 07 09:43:41 i understand, yes. May 07 09:44:37 ok, what is the procedure? May 07 09:45:25 install kernel-cssu-bootimg May 07 09:49:37 then, u-boot and u-boot-tools. after this, be sure to not reboot your system May 07 09:51:03 apt-get install u-boot-flasher kernel-cssu-bootimg ln -s /etc/bootmenu.d/20-Maemo5-kernel-cssu-2.6.28.10-cssu3.item /etc/default/bootmenu.item u-boot-update-bootmenu May 07 09:54:38 sorry i'm on a bad connection here, but yes, you then need exactly that ln command May 07 09:58:03 after update-bootmenu, it should be safe to reboot and confirm u-boot loads correct kernel for CSSU THumb. May 07 09:58:39 let us know how it goes May 07 10:20:51 Nokia-N900:~# apt-get install kernel-cssu-bootimgReading package lists... DoneBuilding dependency treeReading state information... DoneRecommended packages: multiboot kernel-power-settings usbip iptables kexec-toolsThe following NEW packages will be installed: kernel-cssu-bootimg0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.Need May 07 10:20:52 to get 1937kB of archives.After this operation, 2015kB of additional disk space will be used.Get:1 http://maemo.merlin1991.at fremantle/free kernel-cssu-bootimg 1:2.6.28-10cssu3 [1937kB]Fetched 1937kB in 5s (350kB/s)Selecting previously deselected package kernel-cssu-bootimg.(Reading database ... 24995 files and directories currently May 07 10:20:52 installed.)Unpacking kernel-cssu-bootimg (from .../kernel-cssu-bootimg_1%3a2.6.28-10cssu3_armel.deb) ...Setting up kernel-cssu-bootimg (1:2.6.28-10cssu3) ... May 07 10:21:07 Nokia-N900:~# apt-get install u-boot-flasherReading package lists... DoneBuilding dependency treeReading state information... DoneSome packages could not be installed. This may mean that you haverequested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstabledistribution that some required packages have not yet been createdor been moved out of May 07 10:21:08 Incoming.The following information may help to resolve the situation:The following packages have unmet dependencies: u-boot-flasher: Depends: kernel-modules (= 2.6.28-20103103+0m5)E: Broken packages May 07 10:25:45 please use a pastebin for pasting logs May 07 10:27:05 it would seem you are missing a core repository catalog May 07 10:29:18 http://repository.maemo.org/community/ ? May 07 10:29:34 you should have one of the Nokia repository mirrors in the Application Manager May 07 10:29:47 ~mirro May 07 10:29:52 ~mirror May 07 10:29:52 well, mirror is http://maemo-archive.wedrop.it/ http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1315143#post1315143 or extras-devel.merlin1991.at - for fighting hashsum error, or see ~rmo-new May 07 10:30:27 i use the muarf mirror May 07 10:30:43 ~maemo-repos May 07 10:30:44 i guess maemo-repos is http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories May 07 10:30:48 might come handy May 07 10:31:40 use maemo.muarf.org May 07 10:32:09 Ah, that one is better thanks KotCzarny May 07 10:36:51 /home/user # apt-get update May 07 10:36:53 Hit http://repository.maemo.org fremantle Release.gpg May 07 10:36:55 Ign http://repository.maemo.org Hit http://maemo.muarf.org ./ Packages May 07 10:36:57 Fetched 6013B in 7s (761B/s) May 07 10:36:59 Reading package lists... Done May 07 10:37:01 W: GPG error: http://maemo.muarf.org ./ Release: The following signatures were invalid: KEYEXPIRED 1349249546 KEYEXPIRED 1349249546 KEYEXPIRED 1349249546 May 07 10:37:03 W: GPG error: http://maemo.muarf.org ./ Release: The following signatures were invalid: KEYEXPIRED 1349249546 KEYEXPIRED 1349249546 KEYEXPIRED 1349249546 May 07 10:37:05 W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems May 07 10:38:04 you can ignore warnings about expired keys May 07 10:39:27 After installing kernel-cssu-bootimg, I can’t reboot the device, right? May 07 10:43:23 you can ... but after onstalling uboot, dont May 07 10:44:11 (even if you did, there's a way to recover ... but no need to put ourselves tgrough pain) :-) May 07 10:44:40 sorry for typos ... terrible network + android vkb May 07 10:45:11 no problems May 07 10:47:01 I understand that u-boot is not installed because it cannot find the correct kernel version? May 07 10:52:08 Now you have the correct repos i believe? so you can install uboot again May 07 10:53:20 I did not change repo, it was configured earlier May 07 10:53:45 u-boot-tools is installed May 07 10:54:30 u-boot-flasher Depends: kernel-modules (= 2.6.28-20103103+0m5)E: Broken packages May 07 10:57:38 let's see your repo list. May 07 10:58:15 cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/hildon-application-manager.list May 07 10:58:30 pleaae post to a pastebin May 07 10:59:23 /home/user # cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/hildon-application-manager.list May 07 10:59:25 deb http://repository.maemo.org/community-testing/ fremantle free non-free May 07 10:59:27 deb http://repository.maemo.org/extras/ fremantle-1.3 free non-free May 07 10:59:29 deb http://repository.maemo.org/ fremantle/sdk free non-free May 07 10:59:31 deb http://repository.maemo.org/ fremantle/tools free non-free May 07 10:59:33 deb http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/ fremantle free non-free May 07 10:59:35 deb http://repository.maemo.org/extras-testing/ fremantle free non-free May 07 10:59:47 :) May 07 11:01:14 heh May 07 11:02:25 RIP :( May 07 11:03:48 Malicious website alert. May 07 11:26:24 Poor guy ... still not back May 07 11:52:00 Freenode is banned my May 07 11:52:12 we told you to use pastebin May 07 11:52:18 and not to paste directly to irc May 07 11:52:32 pastebin.com for example May 07 12:06:39 he'll figure it out and be back eventually May 07 13:42:26 Nokia-N900:~# cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/hildon-application-manager.listdeb http://repository.maemo.org/community-testing/ fremantle free non-freedeb http://repository.maemo.org/extras/ fremantle-1.3 free non-freedeb http://repository.maemo.org/ fremantle/sdk free non-freedeb http://repository.maemo.org/ fremantle/tools free non-freedeb May 07 13:42:26 http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/ fremantle free non-freedeb http://repository.maemo.org/extras-testing/ fremantle free non-freedeb http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./deb http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0 ./deb May 07 13:42:27 http://deb.opera.com/maemo fremantle non-freedeb http://qole.org/repository/ maemo fremantledeb http://repository.maemo.org/community-testing/ fremantle free non-freedeb http://maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/community-thumb/ fremantle free non-free May 07 13:42:35 use the pastebin.com May 07 13:42:43 or freenode will ban you again May 07 13:44:06 Show an example May 07 13:44:18 open in browser: https://pastebin.com May 07 13:44:32 paste the text there, then copy the resulting link and paste here (only link) May 07 13:46:12 https://pastebin.com/UNMuZBP9 May 07 13:46:30 good May 07 13:47:21 (for pastebinning, i dont remember repos list) May 07 13:58:35 kirito: strange. you have the right repos. you're sure you've apt-get updated? May 07 13:59:03 $ apt-cache showpkg kernel-modules May 07 13:59:24 2.6.28-20103103+0m5 (/var/lib/apt/lists/maemo.muarf.org_apt-mirror_mirror_downloads.maemo.nokia.com_fremantle_ssu_mr0_._Packages) (/var/lib/dpkg/status) May 07 13:59:39 this is what mine shows May 07 14:00:31 https://pastebin.com/ujpxZt6A May 07 14:04:00 install them, apt-get install kernel-modules May 07 14:06:16 https://pastebin.com/NWT8msMQ May 07 14:06:50 it seems this is not Thumb2 modules May 07 14:07:20 if i were you, i would start with freshly flashed device without adding any custom repos May 07 14:07:22 you have a really weird install :-) May 07 14:07:36 then installed cssu flavour, then added back things you want May 07 14:08:23 Thumb2Thumb2 is another instruction set, which has most of the power and speed of ARM ISA, but its instructions could be 2 bytes in length instead of 4 bytes.According to some research that can be found on internet, using Thumb2 ISA leads to reduction of code size in 30-40% without sacrificing much of the performance (some 2-5% performance May 07 14:08:24 decrease). May 07 14:08:30 (and yes they aren't Thumb modules ... you already have those installed) May 07 14:10:13 are you even really on Thumb? May 07 14:10:58 yes May 07 14:11:12 what's in Settings > General About Community SSU May 07 14:11:25 Yes May 07 14:11:27 https://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Thumb May 07 14:12:07 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo12 May 07 14:12:23 you're not on thumb thrn May 07 14:12:31 *then May 07 14:13:21 mine has +thumb0 at the end May 07 14:13:54 maybe keep testing ... May 07 14:15:30 How to remove kernel-cssu-bootimg ? May 07 14:17:05 apt-get remove May 07 14:17:44 that just provides you a kernel suitable for uboot ... doesn't do anything else to the system, so it's safebto keep/delete May 07 14:41:54 sicelo show df -h May 07 15:31:10 why? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu May 07 22:58:43 2020 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu May 07 23:00:15 2020 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri May 08 02:59:59 2020