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May 20 10:51:32 <buZz> i got a n900 that seems to have some display issues, screen has flickering lines on it
May 20 10:51:40 <buZz> would that just be a loose display connector?
May 20 10:52:01 <KotCzarny> or dying ribbon
May 20 11:00:26 <buZz> hmhm
May 20 11:00:36 <buZz> well, i guess i should tear it apart to check
May 20 11:00:49 <KotCzarny> ribbon is cheap
May 20 11:01:44 <buZz> they still sell replacements? :)
May 20 11:01:59 <KotCzarny> and if you have spare n900 you can easily check which part needs fixing
May 20 11:02:24 <buZz> yeah i do, guess i could take apart two of em
May 20 11:02:25 <bencoh> I wouldn't tear it apart before buying replacements :)
May 20 11:02:31 <bencoh> oh
May 20 11:03:19 <buZz> i got decent skill in storing halffinished teardowns, history has shown me :P
May 20 11:05:05 <KotCzarny> but yeah, flex needs cautious handling
May 20 11:05:15 <KotCzarny> easier to just replace whole display part
May 20 11:06:56 <buZz> hmhm yeah probably
May 20 11:07:22 <buZz> my 'best' n900 now has a nasty pit in the touchlayer, i think someone placed something burning on it
May 20 11:07:45 <buZz> so was thinking i could maybe swap it, if its properly working
May 20 11:07:52 <KotCzarny> licking hot fingers
May 20 11:08:03 <buZz> :)
May 20 11:33:32 <sixwheeledbeast> ~fixribbon
May 20 11:33:33 <infobot> from memory, fixribbon is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1324171#post1324171
May 20 11:33:40 <sixwheeledbeast> buZz: ^
May 20 11:39:42 <buZz> tnx \o
May 20 11:43:30 <buZz> looks to be kinda unobtanium nowadays?
May 20 11:44:59 <KotCzarny> check local classifieds for 'broken lcd' ones?
May 20 11:45:13 <KotCzarny> 'broken usb port' can also be cheap
May 20 12:37:42 <KotCzarny> https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2019/a2-class-microsd-cards-offer-no-better-performance-raspberry-pi
May 20 12:37:54 <KotCzarny> not nice.
May 20 12:44:01 <buZz> no suprises there
May 20 23:21:56 <brolin_empey> horseshoecrab: Do you live in or near Shenzhen, PRC?
May 20 23:27:40 <brolin_empey> KotCzarny: I did not open the link because I do not need to know but I do not think the physical size, in this case microSD, of an SD card matters in the context of the performance of the SD card.  The software may not even know the physical size of the card it is accessing.  I realise that you are probably not the author of the referenced post/article but I think it would be better to omit unnecessary details in this case and just say “SD card”.
May 20 23:34:47 <horseshoecrab> brolin_empey: no
May 20 23:36:13 <horseshoecrab> i uh, kind of used to...
May 20 23:36:17 <horseshoecrab> ...but that was a long time ago.
May 20 23:45:55 <brolin_empey> horseshoecrab: OK.  Where do you live now?  I asked about Shenzhen because I need to chase the KingSpec Global Store, which is in Shenzhen, on AliExpress because they have received the 2-TB mSATA SSD I returned to them because it died soon after I began using it but I have not heard from them for at least two or three weeks by now;  I need this replacement SSD so I can finally finish this project I started in December (!) of replacing HDDs with SSDs before 
May 20 23:45:55 <brolin_empey> the HDDs fail.  Yes, I can temporarily use an HDD until I receive the replacement SSD then clone the HDD onto the SSD but I do not want to use HDDs at all, for anything, because they are unreliable and slow and are Yet Another drive failure just waiting to happen.  I have both a fixed/stationary and mobile telephone number for a person at the KingSpec Global Store so I was going to try contacting them via SMS/MMS or maybe voice call but I do not know if they
May 20 23:45:55 <brolin_empey>  speak English as opposed to reading and writing English because all of my communication with them has been in writing.
May 20 23:46:49 <horseshoecrab> i live in london
May 20 23:47:00 <horseshoecrab> i just decided to give my router a funny hostname
May 20 23:49:24 <brolin_empey> horseshoecrab: OK.  Is the “dim sum” part a BASIC reference because it declares an array named “sum” in BASIC?
May 20 23:49:33 <horseshoecrab> nah
May 20 23:50:15 <horseshoecrab> thats a reference to the cantonese style of eating small plates with a lot of tea.
May 20 23:50:34 <horseshoecrab> i.e. small plates of things like dumplings and stuff
May 20 23:50:58 <horseshoecrab> im moving to another naming scheme soon.
May 20 23:51:07 <horseshoecrab> ive been messing with my network a bit over the last few days.
May 20 23:51:55 <horseshoecrab> i even gave my n900 a static ipv6 address because it won't pick one up via slaac for some reason.
May 20 23:52:54 <brolin_empey> Is IPv6 an asymptote in practice?
May 20 23:53:42 <horseshoecrab> what do you mean/
May 20 23:54:45 <brolin_empey> It was a joke in the sense of IPv6 usage being increasingly approached but never reached.
May 20 23:55:56 <horseshoecrab> i dunno man. ive been using it for over 10 years. *shrug*
May 20 23:56:14 <horseshoecrab> lots of big sites that i feel should use it still don't but im often surprised by those that do.
May 20 23:57:07 <brolin_empey> Except for every time you need to access something that only has an IPv4 address.
May 20 23:57:18 <horseshoecrab> so? dual stack.
May 20 23:57:39 <horseshoecrab> infact i just checked by using my router to ping pornhub (ipv4) and xhamster (ipv6)
May 20 23:58:22 <brolin_empey> So why use IPv6 at all then if everything is accessible via IPv4?
May 20 23:58:32 <horseshoecrab> not everything is
May 20 23:58:44 <horseshoecrab> some things are ipv6 only
May 20 23:58:56 <horseshoecrab> and also the obvious reason: address space.
May 20 23:59:49 <brolin_empey> What is accessible only via IPv6?  xhamster is accessible via IPv4.
May 21 00:00:08 <horseshoecrab> we have special porn on the ipv6 version of xhamster.
May 21 00:00:19 <horseshoecrab> its like the ipv6 version of towel.blinkenlights.nl.
May 21 00:00:40 <horseshoecrab> but, more practical example:
May 21 00:00:44 <horseshoecrab> nat is horrific
May 21 00:00:48 <horseshoecrab> its the work of the devil. 
May 21 00:01:25 <horseshoecrab> its something so crippled and broken that it should be taken out and shot, but it does the job its supposed to do just effectively enough, that despite all that, people use it.
May 21 00:01:35 <horseshoecrab> some protocols work "ok" with nat
May 21 00:01:48 <horseshoecrab> but others are terrible - voip being the classic example that springs to mind.
May 21 00:02:08 <horseshoecrab> its very nice to be able to give everything involved in voip a global ipv6 address and not have to fuss with nat.
May 21 00:02:19 <brolin_empey> VoIP is not a specific protocol.
May 21 00:02:22 <horseshoecrab> (esp. if you are doing stuff like that at home)
May 21 00:02:26 <horseshoecrab> s/voip/sip
May 21 00:02:36 <horseshoecrab> my bad
May 21 00:06:14 <horseshoecrab> like if you google sip and nat
May 21 00:06:26 <horseshoecrab> there are loads of people wailing and gnashing their teeth
May 21 00:06:37 <horseshoecrab> ipv6 makes that a lot easier to work with.
May 21 00:34:52 <brolin_empey> I use SIP for my VoIP.ms and IPtel.org accounts using only IPv4.  It seems to work for me.  Microsoft trying to daylight switch the hardware clock of computers running Windows NT instead of using UTC for the hardware clock seems worse than PNAT.  FAT file systems with all of their limitations seem worse than PNAT too.
May 21 00:46:42 <drathir_tor> brolin_empey:  isnt like for such purposes them provide stun servers ?
May 21 00:47:35 <drathir_tor> brolin_empey: to proxy connecrions no matter of nats...
May 21 01:12:14 <brolin_empey> HTTPS, more generally TLS, breaking forward compatibility may be worse than PNAT too.
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