**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Dec 07 02:59:57 2020 Dec 07 06:28:28 enyc: Yes, I bought (from Synnex Canada, not directly from StarTech) two of this cable in 2018 for 25.92 CAD each, have one in my car and the other on my desktop (furniture) at my office: https://www.startech.com/en-us/cables/ltcub1mgr Dec 07 06:33:07 It has all of microUSB, USB Type C, and Apple Lightning plugs on one end of the cable but they are not all connected at once: it has the three plugs on a Y at the end of the cable with the microUSB plug in the middle so if you want to use the USB Type C or Apple Lightning plug then you have to connect that part to the microUSB plug. It works well even though the Lightning connector is rarely used because I do not use Apple iOS computers. Dec 07 06:43:57 Eh, it is not a Y because it is one to three, not one to two. I do not think the English alphabet has a letter like that so I am not sure what to call this type of cable. A trident cable, trident like the USB logo? Or a spear? Dec 07 10:54:10 2395 microSD card IOPS tests completed :) Dec 07 13:15:44 i made a static version of terminal rain curl http://0x0.st/ihBJ.ans Dec 07 13:23:28 :) Dec 07 13:25:16 the junky c-code is here http://0x0.st/id9i.cpp Dec 07 15:18:36 * CatButts ponders if windows CE is viable for N900 Dec 07 15:28:06 how do you think that would work? Dec 07 15:28:18 not like you can port a kernel .. Dec 07 15:40:00 dunno, but whatever the answer is, it's not legal Dec 07 15:52:23 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Embedded_Compact#Releases haha, this OS is better supported than my windows XP main Dec 07 15:55:56 sadly, only licensed to OEMs Dec 07 15:56:04 in source form Dec 07 16:03:22 CatButts: Apparently Geeksphone as a company is done but apparently one of their ARM smartphone models (as opposed to x86 smartphone model, at least the Revolution) can run both Windows CE and Linux (one at once, not both at the same time). Dec 07 16:04:02 or GeeksPhone if the name is supposed to be CamelCase? Dec 07 16:07:01 Also, back when Android was new, my colleague had some model of Windows Mobile smartphone that could unofficially run Android, I think still Android 1.x at the time. I do not remember which model of smartphone this was but I can still contact him if you are interested. Dec 07 16:10:09 circa what year, the device Dec 07 16:13:59 ah yeah, 2008 2009 Dec 07 16:14:14 based on android version, anyway Dec 07 16:15:19 I recall that Nokia made some phone(s) with some kind of Windows OS. Never had one so do not know the details. Dec 07 16:16:21 https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/previous-versions/windows/embedded/gg154234(v=winembedded.80)?redirectedfrom=MSDN Dec 07 16:16:37 > Board Support Packages (BSPs) Dec 07 16:17:04 > Compact 2013 provides three new BSPs: [...] the ARM v7T2 based Texas Instruments OMAP 4470, and the ARM v7 based Freescale i.MX6. Dec 07 16:18:11 not quite the version on the N900 Dec 07 16:19:53 definitely not Dec 07 16:25:35 CatButts: I think he had it in 2009. I think it may have been an HP model. I think it was from Bell Mobility (in Canada, more precisely Metro Vancouver), which means it may use CDMA2000 so may no longer be useful if you need cellular connectivity. Dec 07 16:28:45 Vajb: The Nokia brand was used for Lumia smartphones but those run Windows Phone and maybe Windows 10 Mobile, which are the successor to Windows Mobile. Windows Phone originally used a Windows CE kernel but then switched to a Windows NT kernel, beginning with Windows Phone 8 if I recall correctly. Dec 07 16:30:02 Windows Phone 7 is the successor to Windows Mobile 6.5 . Dec 07 16:31:45 I had a brush with winmo 6.5 for a while Dec 07 16:32:09 I got short end of stick, with a Motorola Q9H Dec 07 16:34:13 bad GAPI(graphics api) implementation Dec 07 16:34:44 which a lot of apps relied on Dec 07 16:34:48 games Dec 07 16:38:28 'games' Dec 07 16:38:30 ha ha Dec 07 16:39:06 and anything SDL Dec 07 16:39:13 like, milkytracker Dec 07 16:39:28 now that's more useful Dec 07 16:45:44 https://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=959084&postcount=4 so it's possible, but someone has to write drivers, so, eh Dec 07 16:46:41 the next question is, how usable would win CE be for user and dev Dec 07 16:47:43 from vague memory on article about ReactOS ARM port, GCC has removed ARM PE support at one point Dec 07 16:48:31 so, not far off from Maemo 5 situation of being stuck with outdated tools, I think Dec 07 16:59:28 http://cat.butt.care:3434/old_wince_dev_fun.png this guy sounds like he had a great time writing for this platform Dec 07 16:59:50 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VES1KHFa_vk from this video Dec 07 17:27:05 you seem pretty serious about that thing Dec 07 17:31:35 yeah, I wouldn't mind a win95-shell phone with winapi Dec 07 17:31:44 probably not happening anytime soon Dec 07 17:46:33 you could always run stuff with wine Dec 07 17:47:40 I kinda fail to see why anyone would want wince when they have a fully-working linux platform though Dec 07 17:51:37 probably because I'm a windows guy Dec 07 17:53:41 but now you got me curious about WINE Dec 07 17:53:52 for ARM Dec 07 17:55:33 but I have a bad feeling about this Dec 07 18:17:10 wine 1.4.1 is quite old Dec 07 18:17:58 2012 Dec 07 19:57:59 why not get an android that has beefy CPU, then run Win 95 or even XP in a VM there. Limbo (from F-Droid) does work Dec 07 20:07:24 yeah, screw wince Dec 07 20:07:48 https://dmitry.gr/?r=05.Projects&proj=27.%20rePalm PalmOS is where it's at Dec 07 20:08:08 heh, you're "switching" :p **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Dec 08 02:59:57 2020