**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Dec 15 02:59:57 2020 Dec 15 03:24:57 CatButts: Windows 4.x AKA the Chicago architecture Windows series supports multiple user profiles but without any real security like the Windows NT series has. “Windows 9x” seems like a misnomer because it does not match Windows Me, which is Windows 4.9 or 4.90 . Maybe the term “Windows 9x” predates Windows Me but “Windows 4.x” is still the more general and accurate term. Dec 15 03:50:05 CatButts: “Documents and Settings” was renamed to simply “Users” beginning in Windows NT 6.0 (marketing names: Windows Vista and Windows Server 2008), same as it was named in Windows NT 4 if I recall correctly. Dec 15 11:00:40 maybe Dec 15 11:00:51 .41 Dec 15 11:00:56 woops :) Dec 15 11:00:57 but now I forgot what the original discussion was about Dec 15 11:04:20 I had a dream where I had a drawing app on the n900. I updated it to latest version and UI was changed and social functions were included. Dec 15 11:04:49 The UI didn't quite fit, but thankfully, I discovered I could two-finger multitouch zoom Dec 15 11:05:34 Also the app had musical functions included in it too, so I made a banger in it and instantly forgot it when I woke up Dec 15 11:06:41 Also, I accidentally discovered the top quarter of the n900 slides(like the keyboard) separatelly to form a T shape, and reveals a hollow space in the phone Dec 15 11:07:08 my reaction is to blow air inside the n900 to vent out the heat Dec 15 11:09:58 then I wondered if two-finger multitouch is even feasible on a resistive screen by measuring alternating quickly alternating "cursor" positions Dec 15 11:10:59 *by measuring quickly alternating Dec 15 11:11:28 2 finger mt is possible on resistive ts Dec 15 11:11:41 by some analysis, but possible Dec 15 12:16:26 >Windows 4.x is still the more general and accurate term. Dec 15 12:16:46 brolin_empey: what windowses are NT 3.5 and NT 4, though Dec 15 12:18:20 the namespace is getting kinda messy! Dec 15 13:15:06 hey guys Dec 15 13:15:19 uhllo Dec 15 13:15:33 I managed to get hold of a new battery and the correct images for my N950, but it seems the eMMC in the device is busted somehow Dec 15 13:15:44 "fdisk: can't read from /dev/mmcblk0" --- this is from telneting into the rescue image Dec 15 13:18:12 is this a HW failure? Dec 15 13:18:54 is there mmcblk1 or 2 ? Dec 15 13:19:02 no, there isn't Dec 15 13:19:14 anything interesting in dmesg? Dec 15 13:19:23 haven't checked Dec 15 13:20:04 but I can Dec 15 13:25:23 KotCzarny: here you go. https://pastebin.com/65eu3wqr Dec 15 13:27:04 ho hum Dec 15 13:27:25 lots of "onenand_wait: ECC error" Dec 15 13:27:35 thats nand Dec 15 13:28:03 and then Dec 15 13:28:04 mmcblk0: error -110 transferring data, sector 0, nr 8, card status 0x0 Dec 15 13:28:50 maybe bad solder Dec 15 13:29:40 the device spent the last 6 years in a drawer, turned off, and it worked before. I don't think I did anything that affect the solder, but who knows Dec 15 13:30:09 my guesses is either bad solder or bad silicon Dec 15 13:42:53 did the battery swell up putting pressure on something? Dec 15 13:42:59 no Dec 15 13:43:06 and I already replaced the battery with a new one Dec 15 13:45:43 :-( Dec 16 01:29:50 CatButts: Windows NT 3.51 was released between NT 3.5 and NT 4.0 but, to answer your question, they are part of the Windows NT series, as the name says. The first release of Windows NT was version 3.1 in 1993, then 3.5 in 1994, 3.51 in 1995, 4.0 in 1996, 5.0 (marketing name: Windows 2000) in late 1999 for the RTM, early 2000 for the GA, and so on. Windows Me (marketing name for Windows 4.9 or 4.90) was released later in 2000 and is the final release of the Dec 16 01:29:50 original Windows series. Since then only the Windows CE and Windows NT series are still developed but Microsoft stopped using Windows NT as a marketing name and largely stopped using actual version numbers as marketing names, even when the marketing name uses a number, which is confusing, such as with Windows 7 (Windows NT 6.1), Windows 8 (NT 6.2), Windows 8.1 (NT 6.3). Oh, except Windows 10 is actually Windows NT version 10 because Microsoft bumped the Dec 16 01:29:50 Windows NT version number from 6.3 (Windows 8.1 and Windows Server 2012 R2) to 10.0 . Dec 16 01:51:11 I think the pattern is that all of the Windows releases named using the full year, such as 2000 and later but not 95 and 98, are part of the Windows NT series but for the releases whose name uses a number, you have to know that the original Windows series ended at version 4.9 or 4.90 and that 5.0 and later are only Windows NT. And that Windows NT began at version 3.1 so 3.0 and earlier are the original Windows series. This is not considering the Windows CE Dec 16 01:51:11 series, though, only the original Windows series and Windows NT series. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Dec 16 02:59:56 2020