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Jan 17 06:17:13 <brolin_empey> Is there a video player application for Windows NT, GNU+Linux, inclusive-or Mac OS X/XI that has the feature of YouTube and other Web sites where pointing over the seeking bar shows a preview of the video at that position?
Jan 17 06:57:03 <brolin_empey> Apparently yes.  I should have searched the Internet before asking.  https://superuser.com/questions/359697/need-windows-video-player-with-seek-preview-feature
Jan 17 12:17:24 <visionvirus> DocScrutinizer05: moin
Jan 17 12:18:04 <visionvirus> DocScrutinizer05: ive got a mail thati got to load the latest fixes for Maemo 5 system ;)
Jan 17 12:23:01 <DocScrutinizer05> forget that! it's likely an artifact from flashing / CSSU
Jan 17 12:23:53 <DocScrutinizer05> there are no latest fixes after ~PR13
Jan 17 12:23:58 <DocScrutinizer05> ~pr13
Jan 17 12:24:06 <DocScrutinizer05> ~pr1.3
Jan 17 12:24:07 <infobot> i heard pr1.3 is the last full Nokia Software Update for Fremantle, Product Version 20.2010.36-2, available since Monday October 25 2010. More information at http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo_5/PR1.3 -- see ~flashing for how to update also see ~pr1.3.1 and ~cssu
Jan 17 12:24:34 <DocScrutinizer05> ~pr1.3.1
Jan 17 12:24:34 <infobot> i guess combined is the rootfs fiasco image of maemo. For N900 latest (PR1.3.1) see ~lf which will tell you how to get the latest fiasco image, actually does all the download for you
Jan 17 12:26:06 <DocScrutinizer05> ~lf
Jan 17 12:26:06 <infobot> i guess #maemo lazyflashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware#The_Lazy_Approach
Jan 17 12:27:10 <DocScrutinizer05> ~pr1.4
Jan 17 12:27:10 <infobot> PR1.4 has always been a ban'able subject
Jan 17 12:27:27 <DocScrutinizer05> ~pr1.5
Jan 17 12:27:27 * infobot beats docscrutinizer05 with a Nostradamus papercopy 31.4 times. "That's your PR1.5!"
Jan 17 12:29:26 <CatButts> ~pr1.6
Jan 17 12:29:26 <infobot> i heard pr1.6 is the future man!
Jan 17 12:29:33 <CatButts> ~pr1.7
Jan 17 12:31:40 <visionvirus> DocScrutinizer05: i understand...
Jan 17 12:31:45 <DocScrutinizer05> ~cherry
Jan 17 12:31:45 <infobot> i heard cherry is http://wiki.maemo.org/PR1.2_compulsory_My_Nokia_subscription
Jan 17 12:32:25 <DocScrutinizer05> ~chase CatButts 
Jan 17 12:32:25 * infobot chases CatButts
Jan 17 12:33:02 * CatButts claws infobot's butt
Jan 17 12:35:43 <DocScrutinizer05> visionvirus: this was a email?
Jan 17 12:36:38 <DocScrutinizer05> well "email"
Jan 17 12:36:47 <DocScrutinizer05> or a SMS?
Jan 17 12:37:01 <DocScrutinizer05> also " "
Jan 17 12:37:33 <DocScrutinizer05> ~seen Pali 
Jan 17 12:37:35 <infobot> pali is currently on #maemo (1h 53m 57s) #devuan (1h 53m 57s) #neo900 (1h 53m 57s) #maemo-ssu (1h 53m 57s), last said: 'you would have to contact him and ask'.
Jan 17 12:37:43 <Pali> I'm there!
Jan 17 12:37:47 <DocScrutinizer05> :-)
Jan 17 12:37:51 <DocScrutinizer05> hi!
Jan 17 12:37:58 <Pali> hi!
Jan 17 12:38:38 <DocScrutinizer05> just thought about you yesterday. Without you all our expertise would vanish
Jan 17 12:41:01 <DocScrutinizer05> Pali: you got an idea what this >>got a mail thati got to load the latest fixes for Maemo 5 system<< might be?
Jan 17 12:41:37 <DocScrutinizer05> on a fresh CSSU-T system without SIM even
Jan 17 12:42:03 <Pali> is not it just plain HAM notification?
Jan 17 12:42:35 <Pali> after installing CSSU, background apt-worker started
Jan 17 12:42:46 <DocScrutinizer05> did Nokia sneak that into PR1.3.1 (or prior) combined image?
Jan 17 12:42:50 <Pali> and then show notification in area about some new versions of deb packages
Jan 17 12:43:13 <DocScrutinizer05> aaah the ! in systray, yeah
Jan 17 12:43:25 <Pali> yes, systray
Jan 17 12:43:31 <Pali> not email, not SMS
Jan 17 12:43:51 <DocScrutinizer05> xisplease elaborate
Jan 17 12:43:58 <DocScrutinizer05> visionvirus: ^^^
Jan 17 12:44:09 <Pali> Extras repo can be enabled too and this is IIRC the only one which is working alos with the stock PR1.3.1 system without CSSU
Jan 17 12:44:46 <DocScrutinizer05> extras should be enabled, yes
Jan 17 12:44:48 <Pali> and I'm sure that there are some packages which nokia had preinstalled in PR1.3.1 which were updated in Extras
Jan 17 12:44:55 <DocScrutinizer05> otherwise, poor system
Jan 17 12:45:13 <DocScrutinizer05> :nod:
Jan 17 12:45:21 <Pali> so fresh flashed system connected to internet shows these updates
Jan 17 12:45:36 <DocScrutinizer05> :nodnod:
Jan 17 12:46:02 <DocScrutinizer05> are there any toxic packages in extras?
Jan 17 12:46:13 <DocScrutinizer05> I think I killed any with fire
Jan 17 12:46:58 <DocScrutinizer05> oh, but in extras-devel I _bet_ there are toxic packages
Jan 17 12:47:56 <DocScrutinizer05> so visionvirus , before you do any updates in HAM, *please* disable extras-devel (and extras-testing) catalog
Jan 17 12:50:38 <Pali> I do not remember...
Jan 17 12:53:14 <DocScrutinizer05> oh, I think there was a good one...
Jan 17 12:53:20 <DocScrutinizer05> ~tepos
Jan 17 12:53:26 <DocScrutinizer05> ~repos
Jan 17 12:53:26 <infobot> i heard repos is "deb http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./ ;; deb http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0/ ./", or see http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories, or see ~jrrepos
Jan 17 12:53:38 <DocScrutinizer05> ~jrrepos
Jan 17 12:53:39 <infobot> rumour has it, jrrepos is http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/et_al/HAM-catalogs/
Jan 17 12:53:48 <DocScrutinizer05> ~catalogs
Jan 17 12:54:13 <DocScrutinizer05> ~listvalues #maemo
Jan 17 12:54:15 <infobot> Factoid search of '#maemo' by value (15): #maemo pkgs ;; #maemo vmo ;; emmc ;; #maemo-diablo bootloop ;; #maemo eventsdb ;; #maemo lf ;; kickban #DEL# ;; n900 ;; hamvsfam ;; #maemo revision ;; #maemo version ;; maemo ;; #maemo shortcuts ;; javispedro #DEL# ;; closed_packages #DEL#.
Jan 17 12:55:02 <DocScrutinizer05> #maemo-diablo ?????
Jan 17 12:55:31 <DocScrutinizer05> lol, bogus
Jan 17 12:55:46 <DocScrutinizer05> ph a nice one
Jan 17 12:55:50 <DocScrutinizer05> ~shortcuts
Jan 17 12:55:50 <infobot> [#maemo gestures] http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_shortcuts_and_gestures
Jan 17 12:56:28 <DocScrutinizer05> ~botsnack
Jan 17 12:56:29 <infobot> DocScrutinizer05: aw, gee
Jan 17 12:57:56 <DocScrutinizer05> ~+uptime
Jan 17 12:57:56 <infobot> - Uptime for apt -
Jan 17 12:57:57 <infobot> Now: 6h 57m 36s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux
Jan 17 12:57:57 <infobot> 1: 59d 8h 41m 19s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Sun Nov 14 18:39:57 2010
Jan 17 12:57:58 <infobot> 2: 57d 3h 9m 23s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Fri Jun 26 20:39:27 2009
Jan 17 12:57:58 <infobot> 3: 53d 8h 24m 4s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Tue Nov  7 05:34:20 2017
Jan 17 12:58:52 <DocScrutinizer05> those times are prolly gone forever. poor bot gets rebooted at least once a week
Jan 17 13:00:59 <DocScrutinizer05> thanks to apt we have a nice mini expert database ;-D
Jan 17 13:00:59 <infobot> sure thing, DocScrutinizer05
Jan 17 13:52:03 <visionvirus> how ur making copy and pastes into the ssh terminal of scripts?
Jan 17 13:52:15 <KotCzarny> ssh
Jan 17 13:52:38 <visionvirus> yes but there is no xsel, for clipboard...
Jan 17 13:55:20 <visionvirus> or i cannot find a pasteable text editor... like vim is using xsel, or something
Jan 17 14:05:34 <visionvirus> may i just should scp em ;)
Jan 17 15:32:56 <DocScrutinizer05> I use a ssh session from my KDE desktop terminal and c&p works like in every other window there
Jan 17 15:34:22 <DocScrutinizer05> on device iirc ctrl+c works in microB in cursor mode for highlighted text, and in xterm shift+ctrl+V _should_ work too?
Jan 17 15:37:30 <KotCzarny> doesnt text get copied to clipboard on select alone?
Jan 17 15:37:34 <KotCzarny> in linux
Jan 17 15:37:52 <KotCzarny> but there are 2 different clipboards usually
Jan 17 15:38:03 <KotCzarny> one 'on select' and one on 'copy'
Jan 17 15:39:18 <DocScrutinizer05> in maemo xterm, paste is via menu, sh+ctrl+v doesn't work
Jan 17 15:39:35 <KotCzarny> try ctrl-v alone
Jan 17 15:39:44 <KotCzarny> or shift-insert
Jan 17 15:40:24 <DocScrutinizer05> there's no "insert" key on N900
Jan 17 15:40:39 <DocScrutinizer05> ctrl+v doesn't work for paste
Jan 17 15:42:13 <DocScrutinizer05> anyway in a ssh session from remote PC, your PC specific copy and paste mechanisms apply
Jan 17 15:42:33 <KotCzarny> hmm
Jan 17 15:42:34 <KotCzarny> https://wiki.maemo.org/N900_shortcuts_and_gestures
Jan 17 15:42:39 <KotCzarny> would that page lie?
Jan 17 15:42:51 <KotCzarny> maybe your clipboard is empty?
Jan 17 15:43:44 <DocScrutinizer05> iin microB it needs ctrl+c to copy, highlighting allone doesn't copy content to the paste buffer used by xterm "paste" menu entry
Jan 17 15:44:11 <KotCzarny> although in xterm section those copy/paste ones are missing
Jan 17 15:44:21 <KotCzarny> so it needs to be done via buttons
Jan 17 15:45:55 <KotCzarny> but, to select text in xterm one has to disable scrolling mode first
Jan 17 15:46:46 <DocScrutinizer05> so you first enable hover mode in microB (see https://wiki.maemo.org/N900_shortcuts_and_gestures#Web_Browser_Gestures ) then highlight text, then press ctrl+c, then switch to xterm and in menu select "paste"
Jan 17 15:47:29 <DocScrutinizer05> visionvirus: ^^^
Jan 17 16:07:06 <visionvirus> thanX
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