**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Apr 11 02:59:56 2010
Apr 11 05:54:35 <Termana_n810> hey hey
Apr 11 06:57:44 <amjad> ny one working on sunday here :)
Apr 11 06:57:59 <thiago_home> working? no
Apr 11 07:06:07 <amjad> so i find that repos are borked for installation of firefox on meego chroot
Apr 11 07:06:19 <amjad> http://pastebin.com/cHJ6DM8b
Apr 11 07:35:40 <microlith> impressive, virtualbox built its kernel module for fedora 12, and somehow it's in the wrong module format...
Apr 11 07:48:19 <microlith> oh nice, fedora default time for the grub menu is zero
Apr 11 08:49:38 <lbt> is there a proper git repo of the meego kernel
Apr 11 08:50:23 <lbt> ie one that uses git branches and doesn't have diffs to patches
Apr 11 09:41:03 <CosmoHill> #define egdeClass edgeClass
Apr 11 09:41:08 * CosmoHill wonders if that''s good or bad
Apr 11 09:46:41 <thiago_home> it doesn't do anythin
Apr 11 09:50:46 <CosmoHill> look at the first 3 letters
Apr 11 10:14:46 * CosmoHill stabs pointers
Apr 11 10:14:50 <CosmoHill> fucking one way bastards
Apr 11 10:42:17 <CosmoHill> http://black-flag.co.uk/wordpress/2010/04/11/c-aggregation-assocation/
Apr 11 11:14:31 <CosmoHill> anyone wanna help me  with the "this" keyword in c++?
Apr 11 11:18:10 <amjad> sure CosmoHIll
Apr 11 11:19:14 <amjad> this keyword points to current object  in C++
Apr 11 11:20:40 <CosmoHill> bool exitClass::setCommand(command)
Apr 11 11:20:41 <CosmoHill> {  command = this.command; }
Apr 11 11:20:48 <inz> this is a pointer
Apr 11 11:21:14 <CosmoHill> is that right?
Apr 11 11:21:21 <inz> no, it's totally wrong.
Apr 11 11:21:41 <inz> 1) you don't have a type for the argument
Apr 11 11:22:04 <inz> 2) the assignment is wrong way
Apr 11 11:22:15 <inz> 3) this is a pointer, i.e. use ->, not .
Apr 11 11:22:38 <CosmoHill> dammit, I was thinking of java >.<
Apr 11 11:22:51 <CosmoHill> thank you very much inz :)
Apr 11 11:23:01 * CosmoHill gives inz a cookie
Apr 11 11:23:27 <inz> No need, always fun to point mistakes by other people
Apr 11 11:23:47 <CosmoHill> bool exitClass::setCommand(string command)
Apr 11 11:23:47 <CosmoHill> {
Apr 11 11:23:47 <CosmoHill>   this->command = command;
Apr 11 11:23:47 <CosmoHill> }
Apr 11 11:24:00 <inz> yesh, that seems corerct.
Apr 11 11:24:01 <amjad> that looks ok to me
Apr 11 11:24:02 <CosmoHill> :D
Apr 11 11:26:28 <andres> inz: if the parameter would have been a reference the assignement order theoretically could have made sense :P
Apr 11 11:27:01 <inz> anders, yes, but then it would be a getter, not setter
Apr 11 11:27:23 <inz> anders, although it would still make sense in a way, one should not misuse commonly used terms
Apr 11 11:27:44 <CosmoHill> is there a way to do "if command = 1, 2 or 3 then do this?
Apr 11 11:27:52 <CosmoHill> like
Apr 11 11:28:03 <CosmoHill> if( command == 1 || 2 || 3)
Apr 11 11:28:16 <inz> not really, you have to repeat the command == part
Apr 11 11:28:22 <CosmoHill> thought so
Apr 11 11:28:47 <CosmoHill> I'll use a switch, should be easier
Apr 11 11:28:58 <inz> Doesn't work for strings though
Apr 11 11:29:13 <CosmoHill> back to the if statment
Apr 11 11:30:32 <inz> You can use switch, if you map your commands to an enum
Apr 11 11:32:03 <CosmoHill>   if((command == "North") || (command == "South") || (command == "East") || (command == "West"))
Apr 11 11:35:09 <inz> Cosmo, You fall into a bottomless pit.
Apr 11 11:35:33 <CosmoHill> Try again? (Y/n) :
Apr 11 11:36:31 <CosmoHill> i've had so many problems with my assignment I've started again
Apr 11 11:37:15 <CosmoHill> inz: I may have to reference that little bit about 'this' in my assignment, is that okay?
Apr 11 11:40:49 <inz> Cosmo, reference what little bit?
Apr 11 11:41:20 <CosmoHill> between 12:20 and 12:23
Apr 11 11:41:29 <CosmoHill> (it's 12:41 for me atm)
Apr 11 11:41:53 <CosmoHill> pretty much copy and paste the IRC log into the end of my assignment and say I listened to you
Apr 11 11:45:18 <inz> Cosmo, I have no problems with it, no need to credit me on it.
Apr 11 11:45:41 <CosmoHill> I'll see how many references I'll have by the end
Apr 11 11:45:45 <CosmoHill> :)
Apr 11 11:46:04 <inz> What's the "wikipedia policy" at your insitute?
Apr 11 11:46:17 <CosmoHill> I don't know
Apr 11 11:46:23 <CosmoHill> don't even know if we have one
Apr 11 11:46:35 <inz> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%2B%2B_classes#The_this_keyword
Apr 11 11:47:54 <inz> In our univeristy it pretty much changes course-to-course, others allow, or even suggest, using wikipedia, others say one shouldn't use it
Apr 11 11:48:19 <CosmoHill> I did look on wikipedia but didn't understand it
Apr 11 11:54:41 <Xylus> hello guys
Apr 11 12:08:52 <CosmoHill> no wonder my program doesn't work, I spelt success three different ways in the same function
Apr 11 14:07:25 <wazd_e63> Heya meego
Apr 11 16:09:15 <fale> hi
Apr 11 16:09:35 <fale> anyone tryied meego + kde?
Apr 11 16:13:47 <fale> another question: If I create some packages, how can I manage to push them into the main meego archive?
Apr 11 16:15:13 <thiago_home> not yet decided, i think
Apr 11 16:15:54 <fale> thiago_home: I think that you're talking about the second one... and the first one?
Apr 11 16:16:10 <thiago_home> yes, the second one
Apr 11 17:02:45 <todorovc_> ?
Apr 11 17:04:39 <amjad> any one having problems installing firefox from extra-devel repo on meego chroot??
Apr 11 17:23:49 <fale> amjad: which repo are you talking about?
Apr 11 17:27:41 <amjad> fale: http://pastebin.com/jtxbMa4U
Apr 11 17:27:53 <amjad> thats the error i get while installing firefox
Apr 11 17:28:44 <fale> amjad: the problem is that the package system-bookmarks that is required by the firefox package is not available
Apr 11 17:29:00 <amjad> exactly, so why is it not in the repo
Apr 11 17:29:50 <fale> amjad: or is a dependency that is not needed in reality, or the person who packaged firefox forgot about it
Apr 11 17:30:16 <fale> amjad: in any case, this is the reason for which that repo is called devel, things can be broken ;)
Apr 11 17:30:36 <amjad> ok i have build it for me and installed it without that dependency
Apr 11 17:31:20 <fale> amjad: then, probably, the dev who did that package imported the spec file from another distro and forgot to remove that dependency ;)
Apr 11 17:31:55 <amjad> but really if you are targetin g netbooks the firefox package should be in core os packages not in extra-devel
Apr 11 17:33:27 <fale> amjad: all packages are in extra-devel in the first period and after they move toward a stable repo ;) in any case, firefox is not the only browser ;)
Apr 11 17:34:28 <amjad> but ff is the most famous browser in open source world
Apr 11 17:35:20 <fale> amjad: that's true, but is not very light ;)
Apr 11 17:35:47 <Surfa> ff is moving strongly towards big pile of shit
Apr 11 17:35:58 <Surfa> together with thunderbird
Apr 11 17:36:10 <ml-mobile> how so?
Apr 11 17:36:17 <fale> Surfa: I think all the mozilla products are moving in the same direction
Apr 11 17:36:37 <Surfa> fale, sadly yes
Apr 11 17:36:44 <Surfa> just note here, i
Apr 11 17:37:05 <Surfa> m still using ff and tb, but continuoysly considering options..
Apr 11 17:37:30 <fale> Surfa: I have found very good chromium (git nightly)
Apr 11 17:37:46 <Surfa> latest thunderbird is pretty much at the level of uselesness
Apr 11 17:38:04 <ml-mobile> until chrome's JS engine has the right hooks for noscript and a proper adblock...
Apr 11 17:38:21 <Surfa> fale, chrome and chromium are quite fine, but lacking plugins that i'd like to use
Apr 11 17:39:07 <fale> Surfa: yeah I know, they are still not ready for a lot of people, but I think they can be a very good option really soon for the biggest part of the people
Apr 11 17:39:07 <Surfa> but there aren't that good email programs, so i'n strongly considering using the outlook for my personal emails too :)
Apr 11 17:39:30 <fale> Surfa: are you on win?
Apr 11 17:39:47 <amjad> question??
Apr 11 17:39:49 <Surfa> win7 yes
Apr 11 17:39:56 <amjad> does meego need any package maintainer
Apr 11 17:40:04 <Surfa> or os x, or linux.. depends on which computer i'm using
Apr 11 17:40:49 <fale> Surfa: I see ;)
Apr 11 17:41:07 <fale> amjad: I guess yes, I read something about it in the wiki
Apr 11 17:41:44 <amjad> i was the package maintainer for yellow dog linux
Apr 11 17:42:20 <Surfa> fale, but i actually like win7 the best at the moment :)
Apr 11 17:42:30 <fale> Surfa: I see ;)
Apr 11 18:04:57 <GeneralAntilles> Hum, OpenPrinting project guy wants me to talk about MeeGo's printing capabilities in SF. . . .
Apr 11 18:06:31 <lbt> should be short+sweet GeneralAntilles :)
Apr 11 18:07:02 <Jaffa> GeneralAntilles: Obviously you're the expert on the matter...
Apr 11 18:10:00 <GeneralAntilles> Jaffa, clearly.
Apr 11 18:10:05 <GeneralAntilles> lbt, i.e., none? ;)
Apr 11 18:10:33 <lbt> lpr is there I think
Apr 11 18:17:45 <amjad> lbt: how can i become pkg maintainer of meego??
Apr 11 18:18:30 <lbt> amjad: send patches to the current maintainer until they trust you enough :)
Apr 11 18:19:32 <amjad> can  previous experience with RPM based distro  create trust :)
Apr 11 18:26:40 <thiago_home> work creates trust
Apr 11 18:28:48 <CosmoHill> :)
Apr 11 18:35:15 * GAN900 hears palm greasing does, too.
Apr 11 18:35:54 <GAN900> thiago_home, you wouldn't happen to know who I should direct this OpenPrinting guy to, would you?
Apr 11 18:36:26 <thiago_home> about what?
Apr 11 18:38:23 <GAN900> printing in MeeGo
Apr 11 18:38:58 <GAN900> He wants somebody in to talk to for the LF summit
Apr 11 18:47:31 <GAN900> Do we have a list of attendees on a wiki anywhere?
Apr 11 19:13:53 <thiago_home> GAN900: no idea
Apr 11 19:14:04 <thiago_home> as for Qt printing, the responsible people won't be present
Apr 11 19:14:29 <GeneralAntilles> thiago_home, OK, thanks.
Apr 11 21:32:32 <luke-jr> poke
Apr 11 21:34:01 * CosmoHill pokes luke-jr 
Apr 11 21:34:29 <luke-jr> can't find any docs on how to build MeeGo...
Apr 11 21:40:17 <CosmoHill> you mean download the RPMs and install them?
Apr 11 21:40:21 <CosmoHill> or compile them yourself?
Apr 11 21:42:37 <luke-jr> CosmoHill: compile the base OS from scratch
Apr 11 21:42:56 <luke-jr> to begin porting to a new platform
Apr 11 21:43:16 <CosmoHill> I think you'd basically have to download the src.rpm files and recompile them
Apr 11 21:43:38 <luke-jr> :/
Apr 11 21:43:53 <luke-jr> what about these .ks files?
Apr 11 21:44:19 <CosmoHill> i think they are to make images from the pre-compiled rpms
Apr 11 21:44:32 <CosmoHill> what platform are you thinking of?
Apr 11 21:45:21 <luke-jr> CosmoHill: I'm doing the EFIKA MX port
Apr 11 21:45:39 <CosmoHill> I've not heard of it
Apr 11 21:45:50 <luke-jr> based on Freescale i.MX515
Apr 11 21:45:54 <luke-jr> a Cortex A8
Apr 11 21:45:57 <CosmoHill> ooo
Apr 11 21:46:19 <CosmoHill> have you ported anything else to that arch?
Apr 11 21:46:34 <luke-jr> well, I *was* working on Mer, until it got superceded by Nokia to MeeGo ...
Apr 11 21:46:50 <CosmoHill> I'll take that as a bitter yes
Apr 11 21:47:04 <luke-jr> ;)
Apr 11 21:47:15 <luke-jr> I don't especially care for either platform; I use Gentoo
Apr 11 21:47:38 <luke-jr> Mer was GTK-centric, which I didn't like; MeeGo switches it to Qt, but uses RPM :(
Apr 11 21:48:14 <CosmoHill> well the RPM should be written for both ARM and x86
Apr 11 21:48:22 <CosmoHill> the Cortex is ARM right?
Apr 11 21:50:10 <thiago_home> Cortex-A8 is ARM
Apr 11 21:50:16 <thiago_home> it's the one powering the N900 too
Apr 11 21:50:30 <CosmoHill> so no porting will be required?
Apr 11 21:50:39 <thiago_home> no
Apr 11 21:50:46 <CosmoHill> dammit
Apr 11 21:52:04 <luke-jr> ...
Apr 11 21:52:29 <luke-jr> other than drivers, which is what I was expecting anyway
Apr 11 21:53:07 <CosmoHill> should just be able to recompile the src.rpm files for that arch
Apr 11 22:08:04 <CosmoHill> inventory.hpp:9: error: ‘string’ does not name a type >.<
Apr 11 22:24:53 <tealbird> Anyone in SF south bay looking to carpool for ELC?
Apr 11 22:25:35 <CosmoHill> that's never something I've head on IRC before
Apr 11 22:25:38 <CosmoHill> heard*
Apr 11 23:18:21 <CosmoHill> bye bye
Apr 12 00:49:23 <hagisbasheruk> whats the user/password for the netbook usb image ?
Apr 12 00:57:19 <ml-mobile> meego
Apr 12 01:00:40 <hagisbasheruk> tried meego/meego  , meego/password , meego/(blank)
Apr 12 01:29:49 <Maulkin> hcarrega: tried root/moblin ?
Apr 12 01:29:58 <Maulkin> hagisbasheruk even
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