**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Apr 13 02:59:56 2010 Apr 13 03:25:56 yay Apr 13 03:26:02 i found the congatec ivi starter kit Apr 13 03:26:05 :D Apr 13 05:20:04 EHLO all Apr 13 05:20:18 morning Apr 13 05:20:34 ehlo all Apr 13 06:37:26 Does mer support to be ported to Arm9 based device? Apr 13 06:38:58 bit out of scope here Apr 13 06:39:08 and i would port meego instead, but i think that's ARMv5 and above Apr 13 06:40:13 Guest22235: if it's a arm926ej-s or alike, MeeGo should work Apr 13 06:41:47 Yes,it is a amr926ej-s Apr 13 06:42:11 needs MMU for sure Apr 13 06:42:30 i'm personally still wondering when someone insane comes along and puts meego on Nokia 770.. Apr 13 06:42:35 Mer can provide all the source code ,but the meego can not now Apr 13 06:42:57 sure they can - the repositories has full source code Apr 13 06:43:10 srpms Apr 13 06:43:29 which ironically enough, is better than what Mer does atm :P Apr 13 06:43:42 I have checked that,only get a few. sorry I am not familiar with the rpm Apr 13 06:43:59 the only statement I have of record is that MeeGo would support OMAP3 and above Apr 13 06:44:01 that's ARMv7 Apr 13 06:44:18 thiago_home: we're built for ARMv5 currently Apr 13 06:44:21 I know Apr 13 06:44:32 but maybe rebuilt for ARMv6+VFP Apr 13 06:45:02 :nod: Apr 13 06:45:04 vfp would be a good gain Apr 13 06:45:06 (we're built for ARMv5 currently) this is about meego or the mer Apr 13 06:45:11 both, really Apr 13 06:46:34 good news Apr 13 06:46:53 there's no official commitment to continue at v5 Apr 13 06:47:05 the only commitment is to support the N900 hardware and better Apr 13 06:47:08 :nod: Apr 13 06:47:36 at least we're in the good situation that community rebuilds are possible Apr 13 06:47:37 android support armv5 very well Apr 13 06:47:51 due to the open nature of meego Apr 13 06:48:23 where is the source code site of meego? thks Apr 13 06:48:51 meego.gitorious Apr 13 06:50:43 I guess what will drive this is what devices ship Apr 13 06:50:59 older processor families might be cheaper and more suitable for some appliances, like in-vechicle devices? Apr 13 06:51:02 if a company wants to ship an ARMv5 device and it's a relevant one, the builds may support that Apr 13 06:51:07 which makes sense Apr 13 06:51:27 *vehicle Apr 13 06:51:30 or, hey, armv6novfp :) Apr 13 06:51:58 the interesting part would then be if for instance a HW adaptation being done by let's say, maemo.org, counts as 'need to be officially supported' Apr 13 07:19:21 ls Apr 13 07:20:06 anyone awake..? :D Apr 13 07:20:32 everyone dead ? Apr 13 07:20:41 me is awake Apr 13 07:20:54 hi ^^ Apr 13 07:21:25 does anyone know where moblin applications moved to? Apr 13 07:21:53 I checked git.moblin.org but like for instance moblin-panel is missing like it was taken down recently Apr 13 07:22:14 I guess it's being moved to meego's git repo? Apr 13 09:22:15 I see the MeeGo architecture containing Device Services and it was consist of Device Health, Sensor Framework, Resource Manager and Backup /Restore items. Apr 13 09:22:39 Have any information or project related with them? Apr 13 09:39:49 Hi, all Apr 13 09:40:18 I have some problem when I run mic-image-creator. Apr 13 09:40:58 There is an error message, ValueError:need more than 1 value to unpack. Apr 13 09:41:31 I use the arm-n900.ks. Apr 13 09:42:01 what OS are you running it on? Apr 13 09:42:17 fedora 12 Apr 13 09:42:55 pastebin the full error please Apr 13 09:43:47 ok, please wait Apr 13 09:45:15 [u'armv5tel'] Apr 13 09:45:15 MeeGo release 1.0 Apr 13 09:45:15 Loading dm_snapshot... Apr 13 09:45:15 Traceback (most recent call last): Apr 13 09:45:15 File "/usr/bin/mic-image-creator", line 597, in Apr 13 09:45:17 ret = main() Apr 13 09:45:19 File "/usr/bin/mic-image-creator", line 562, in main Apr 13 09:45:21 creator.mount(None, options.cachedir) Apr 13 09:45:23 File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/mic/imgcreate/creator.py", line 611, in mount Apr 13 09:45:25 self._root_fs_avail = get_filesystem_avail(self._instroot) Apr 13 09:45:27 File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/mic/imgcreate/misc.py", line 129, in get_filesystem_avail Apr 13 09:45:29 output.split('\n')[1].split() Apr 13 09:45:31 ValueError: need more than 1 value to unpack Apr 13 09:45:43 no foodbot in here ;-) Apr 13 09:46:43 Sorry, I don't understand what you mean. Apr 13 09:46:58 pastebin Apr 13 09:48:46 hmm... Apr 13 09:56:14 [steventao@Meego meego]$ sudo mic-image-creator --config=arm-n900.ks --format=ra Apr 13 09:56:15 [main] Apr 13 09:56:15 use_comps=1 Apr 13 09:56:15 default_ks=default.ks Apr 13 09:56:15 cachedir=/var/tmp/cache Apr 13 09:56:17 distro_name=MeeGo Apr 13 09:56:19 image_format=livecd Apr 13 09:56:21 tmpdir=/var/tmp Apr 13 09:56:23 outdir=. Apr 13 09:56:25 Geting repomd.xml from repo meego-trunk... Apr 13 09:56:27 Getting primary.sqlite from repo meego-trunk... Apr 13 09:56:29 Getting patterns repodata/f1b8b211e1f586e7cf86bc8e0d7f6feddd4f9f8e3ef5d2d939df35cb59e8393d-patterns.xml.gz from repo meego-trunk... Apr 13 09:56:32 Getting comps repodata/a5a4a61a706ac74dc40f7ef8ec2f86a6476124a62a4f0092d62c9d9d00ddd992-comps.xml.gz from repo meego-trunk... Apr 13 09:56:35 Geting repomd.xml from repo meego-device-n900... Apr 13 09:56:37 Getting primary.sqlite from repo meego-device-n900... Apr 13 09:56:39 [u'armv5tel'] Apr 13 09:56:41 MeeGo release 1.0 Apr 13 09:56:43 Loading dm_snapshot... Apr 13 09:56:47 Traceback (most recent call last): Apr 13 09:56:49 File "/usr/bin/mic-image-creator", line 597, in Apr 13 09:56:51 ret = main() Apr 13 09:56:53 File "/usr/bin/mic-image-creator", line 562, in main Apr 13 09:56:55 creator.mount(None, options.cachedir) Apr 13 09:56:57 File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/mic/imgcreate/creator.py", line 611, in mount Apr 13 09:56:59 self._root_fs_avail = get_filesystem_avail(self._instroot) Apr 13 09:56:59 pastebin.com Apr 13 09:57:01 File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/mic/imgcreate/misc.py", line 129, in get_filesystem_avail Apr 13 09:57:03 output.split('\n')[1].split() Apr 13 09:58:01 Stskeeps: fastest guns in the west Apr 13 09:58:09 no, slightly delayed Apr 13 09:58:10 :P Apr 13 09:58:17 sent him instructions in private Apr 13 09:58:17 :) Apr 13 09:59:33 idiooooooooots Apr 13 11:35:47 Hi, just did some stupid thing. XD Apr 13 11:36:22 got my instructions? :P Apr 13 11:37:24 Yeah Apr 13 11:37:27 Ha Apr 13 11:37:30 good :) Apr 13 11:38:26 The log http://meego.pastebin.com/bfjchKrV Apr 13 11:43:33 Is there anything wrong? Apr 13 13:17:29 I try the meego-preview-netbook-core.ks. Apr 13 13:17:52 build success and work on qemu. Apr 13 13:18:26 I don't understand why I can't use arm-n900.ks. Apr 13 13:18:32 Orz ... Apr 13 13:20:05 did you pastebin the error? Apr 13 13:21:24 yes Apr 13 13:21:56 http://meego.pastebin.com/bfjchKrV Apr 13 13:22:41 use --format=loop instead Apr 13 13:22:42 Could it be an error in repomd.xml? Apr 13 13:22:56 hmm,I try it. Apr 13 13:26:32 No, there is still some error. Apr 13 13:27:22 Faild to find package. Apr 13 13:28:26 So.....which format I should use? Apr 13 13:30:21 I have a question. Is the ks file related to image format? Apr 13 13:31:22 no Apr 13 13:31:30 the ks file says what packages Apr 13 13:31:44 the format says whether it's an iso, loopback etc Apr 13 13:33:55 See. In another word, no matter what ks file I use, the error meesage sould be the same. Apr 13 13:34:08 Is it? Apr 13 14:05:10 ohai. Apr 13 14:05:53 yo Apr 13 14:39:10 I really hope we see a nice tablet design from the meego UI experts Apr 13 14:39:30 otherwise, I'll be forced to buy an iPad to fulfill my gadget lust. Apr 13 14:49:18 slaine: be sure to check out the NotionInk Adam Apr 13 14:49:26 it's slick imho Apr 13 14:49:32 yeah, I've seen it Apr 13 14:49:41 but it's running android which is a big negative for me Apr 13 14:49:48 i *can* run android Apr 13 14:49:53 also regular linux Apr 13 14:50:29 hence my hope for a good meego solution for that space Apr 13 14:50:40 a regular distro would be aweful Apr 13 14:50:55 ah right Apr 13 14:50:56 Software is the key to those types of devices Apr 13 14:51:08 tablet meego on an Adam would be interesting indeed Apr 13 14:51:15 hell yeah Apr 13 15:16:44 dl9pf_: ping Apr 13 15:57:02 * Stskeeps hears crickets Apr 13 15:58:05 isn't everyone in SF? Apr 13 15:58:09 or flying there Apr 13 15:58:21 possibly Apr 13 15:58:34 * javispedro couldn't go :( Apr 13 16:00:21 Stskeeps, you going? Apr 13 16:00:25 nop Apr 13 16:02:55 Stskeeps, ever been stateside tho? Apr 13 16:02:59 nop Apr 13 16:03:03 That starts tomorrow doesn't it ? Apr 13 16:03:50 started already based on releases and things Apr 13 16:03:56 Stskeeps: you're not missing much... Think coldwar Russia... Apr 13 16:03:57 but i think yes Apr 13 16:03:59 seems so. Apr 13 16:04:14 I hope something remotely interesting gets said :) Apr 13 16:04:36 im sure many words will be spoken Apr 13 16:04:39 btw there will be live video streaming, but requires subscription Apr 13 16:04:48 ffs Apr 13 16:05:12 lcuk: what releases ? Apr 13 16:05:15 you can't just broadcast pictures to the world slaine! Think of the children! Apr 13 16:05:22 javispedro: subscription? Apr 13 16:05:29 Stskeeps: free Apr 13 16:05:39 I'm still here :) Apr 13 16:05:42 slaine, the list of collaborators and the ux glimpes Apr 13 16:05:50 I fly to SF in a couple of hours Apr 13 16:05:52 Wasn't that from the IDF ? Apr 13 16:05:53 hello DawnFoster Apr 13 16:06:00 javispedro, ??? subscription streaming Apr 13 16:06:11 subscription, registration... Apr 13 16:06:13 :P Apr 13 16:06:15 I think those images were from IDF Apr 13 16:06:18 and got any urls to the UX glimpses Apr 13 16:06:20 in beijing Apr 13 16:06:25 DawnFoster: yes Apr 13 16:06:27 DawnFoster: safe traveling Apr 13 16:06:31 DawnFoster: the original article says so Apr 13 16:06:41 anyone got a url ? Apr 13 16:06:44 (however the url seems to return 404 atm) Apr 13 16:06:52 that makes me sad Apr 13 16:07:03 slaine: https://intel.wingateweb.com/bj10/scheduler/catalog/catalog.jsp Apr 13 16:07:38 also, https://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/collaboration-summit/live-video-streaming Apr 13 16:07:44 This is the link that was posted in the forum this am: http://carrypad.com/2010/04/13/meego-at-idf-netbook-and-handheld-eye-candy-chrome-fennec-and-lots-of-developer-details/ Apr 13 16:10:47 dawn is alex_vf happy having his fragments posted :D Apr 13 16:11:09 arjan: btw, why 120 and not 96 which is what most distros use as lie? :P Apr 13 16:12:12 Stskeeps: doing anything on the kernel pkging? Apr 13 16:12:33 lbt: i'd like to fix it but i'm not sure how to do it the best Apr 13 16:13:02 state the design objectives first Apr 13 16:13:41 ie 1 pkg to produce multiple kernels with a master policy config and then variants per HW device Apr 13 16:13:49 WTF, Fennec on MeeGo Handheld ?? Apr 13 16:15:10 why not, though? Apr 13 16:15:15 but yeah, why not chrome.. Apr 13 16:15:15 :P Apr 13 16:15:29 would have expected a webkit based browser Apr 13 16:15:31 i thought webkit was qt's baby Apr 13 16:15:49 time is of essence I guess and moblin's handheld release was always using fennec Apr 13 16:15:53 iirc Apr 13 16:15:56 because chrome has a 400Mb src tar.gz .... by definition that sucks Apr 13 16:16:24 Ok, so now that we've all had a peek at stuff we where able to run back in February, can we get access to the UX code already ??? Apr 13 16:18:40 the issue here is that "fennec on meego" comes as a surprise Apr 13 16:18:46 not that it is fennec. Apr 13 16:19:14 (well, 9 Apr 13 16:19:15 ) Apr 13 16:19:45 * slaine waves at Cwiiis Apr 13 16:19:56 Yo Apr 13 16:26:08 Stskeeps: i don't think chromium runs on arm yet Apr 13 16:27:30 th0br0: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=602507&postcount=13 Apr 13 16:27:46 huh, i stand corrected then Apr 13 16:30:44 I hope it'll be possible to theme the netbook ux a little easier this time around (with CSS I guess) Apr 13 16:31:01 I prefer the dark look of the Handheld UX Apr 13 16:34:07 so, how've you been doing, Stskeeps? :) Apr 13 16:34:30 i've been doing OK, the country i live in not so much Apr 13 16:34:30 :P Apr 13 16:37:12 Stskeeps: I think most of use could say that Apr 13 16:51:46 Hi ! Apr 13 16:52:28 lo khertan Apr 13 16:52:45 no meeting tonight, right? Apr 13 16:52:52 correct Apr 13 16:53:21 today's tuesday Apr 13 16:57:05 lol Apr 13 16:57:20 This weeks meeting was canceled though thiago_home Apr 13 16:58:05 howdy Apr 13 17:05:00 howdy milu Apr 13 17:08:34 howdy Apr 13 17:10:01 gotta go. busy busy ... Apr 13 17:12:02 slaine: yeah, people in SF Apr 13 17:12:09 I almost had to go there myself Apr 13 17:13:56 thiago_home: why tonite? Apr 13 17:14:00 it's on wednesdays anyway Apr 13 17:14:43 Stskeeps: haha, true. the past weekend was pretty horrible for poland. Apr 13 17:15:15 th0br0: what happened ? Apr 13 17:16:11 slaine: like half of the polish government died in a plane crash? Apr 13 17:16:55 oh, right, today is tuesday Apr 13 17:17:04 my N900 says the next event is "TSG meeting" Apr 13 17:17:07 but that's tomorrow Apr 13 17:17:14 cool, no meetings tomorrow all day :-) Apr 13 17:18:13 th0br0: oooh, shit, that's nasty Apr 13 17:18:20 well, yes :) Apr 13 17:18:41 I should watch the news more Apr 13 17:22:20 slaine: rather read them; better than watching tv Apr 13 17:23:09 * Stskeeps is getting a bit tired of TV too Apr 13 17:26:01 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZmkuuFKz5s Apr 13 17:26:07 that was moblin last year Apr 13 17:26:16 or the preview of it Apr 13 17:31:50 lcuk, yes, that was never publicly released Apr 13 17:32:22 but my guess is that there's some contractual things happening with oems that where planning on releasing moorestown devices with this ui and moblin 2.2 Apr 13 17:32:28 yeah but it was made Apr 13 17:32:28 * CosmoHill pokes slaine and lcuk Apr 13 17:32:39 Oh I know Apr 13 17:32:44 virtual keyboard and all Apr 13 17:32:54 yeah theres hands on demos Apr 13 17:32:57 in related videos Apr 13 17:33:35 one of the reasons I was so looking forward to 2.2 was the hope that I'd get my hands on it for some of my hardware platforms Apr 13 17:35:07 lcuk, that's partly what's so annoying to be honest Apr 13 17:35:26 I had that netbook ux up and running from moblin's trunk repo back in february Apr 13 17:35:57 then meego was announced, some people made "meego" images from the moblin trunk and then it was all shut down Apr 13 17:36:17 so wheres the mirrors? Apr 13 17:37:09 we're then told that the meego ux code isn't ready yet, it'll be a few weeks still. And today we see that it's the same UI that was there 2 months back (albiet I'm sure with a tonne more polish and bug fixing etc.) Apr 13 17:37:23 So why was the UI withheld if we already had access to it Apr 13 17:37:32 cue conspiracy theories! Apr 13 17:37:34 i am sure Apr 13 17:37:39 you should expose your case to t.m.o Apr 13 17:37:43 I will do Apr 13 17:37:45 i'm personally worried about all this secrecy crap Apr 13 17:37:46 :P Apr 13 17:37:54 it's a pain in the ass Apr 13 17:38:15 It ruined moblin gaining any sizeable community and I'm worried that meego will turn out to be no different Apr 13 17:38:25 on the other hand Apr 13 17:38:47 we're not doing our jobs either - valhalla told us to complain quite loudly to get the teams kicking and screaming into the open :P Apr 13 17:39:02 hey guys. I'm looking for a mirror of the old Moblin repository. I need the image file for the final IVI project release w/ IEGD Apr 13 17:39:08 toefraz: tell me when you find it :/ Apr 13 17:39:21 :-\ Apr 13 17:39:30 I might have the img on my machine at work Apr 13 17:39:36 let me check Apr 13 17:39:41 i'd like the repos, personally Apr 13 17:40:00 i would too, but I figure there would be a greater chance of someone just having the iso laying around somewhere Apr 13 17:40:36 crap, my desktop is offline, probably in sleep mode Apr 13 17:40:37 i wish the repos weren't removed until meego was ready for a transition Apr 13 17:40:41 check back tomorrow Apr 13 17:40:49 will do. thanks a lot Apr 13 17:40:56 I've just been belling aching about this too Apr 13 17:41:02 belly Apr 13 17:41:46 yeah, we are in the middle of putting together a moblin-based infotainment center for our vehicle, and all the repos have been removed. it's really frustrating Apr 13 17:42:23 toefraz: best thing you can really do is to be loud about it on the mailing lists and filing bugs Apr 13 17:42:41 toefraz: we're treated like dirt unless we're a big company Apr 13 17:43:01 *yawn* Apr 13 17:43:37 * slaine noms dinner Apr 13 17:43:55 this vehicle we're making is part of a rather large national competition, so if we can get moblin working for us and we win, then it would produce a lot of pr Apr 13 17:44:53 and we're thinking of switching to meego when it's ready for us, but after all this moblin business, we're not so sure. Apr 13 17:45:13 toefraz: you can use IEGD files to get something up, not as pretty, but if you need something working.. Apr 13 17:45:52 one of my teammates suggested installing ubuntu and installing the moblin framework on top of that. Apr 13 17:46:21 i'm not sure if that's possible now though Apr 13 17:48:37 toefraz, Fedora has an option to install Moblin 2.x desktop, if that helps Apr 13 17:48:51 toefraz: IEGD manual has instructions how to install them manually into moblin Apr 13 17:49:08 toefraz: As does OpenSuse, they've got a Goblin release Apr 13 17:49:54 thanks guys. i'll do some research on your suggestions Apr 13 17:50:47 but those other distros don't support the GMA500 either Apr 13 17:51:15 toefraz: Also, the Moblin UX doesn't run on the IVI platform Apr 13 17:51:28 you're supposed to provide your own apparently Apr 13 17:52:36 oh i see. i wasn't aware of that Apr 13 17:53:27 no reference implementations for various ux's in sight ? Apr 13 17:53:27 the IVI release comes with Xfce desktop Apr 13 17:53:50 jani, not available to the public yet Apr 13 17:54:39 our system is running a atom x530 processor with the us15 chipset Apr 13 17:54:43 z530* Apr 13 17:54:58 jani, mind if i msg you? Apr 13 17:54:59 nod, the classic OMG hardware Apr 13 17:55:19 stskeeps ofcourse you can. Apr 13 17:55:22 Stskeeps: stop the secrecy man Apr 13 17:55:30 * slaine sniggers Apr 13 17:55:38 havent had a time to be online in ages Apr 13 17:56:24 *whispers in the wind* Apr 13 17:56:50 they lock you in chains and release you when you deliver? :P Apr 13 17:57:15 "It puts the lotion in the basket" Apr 13 17:57:28 kids calling upstairs for bedtime story. will be back shortly. Apr 13 18:04:34 so would it be possible to install ubuntu on my system, install the poulsbo drivers for it, and then install the moblin ux on top of it? Apr 13 18:05:56 or install fedora instead of moblin. i believe they have the poulsbo drivers as well Apr 13 18:08:14 toefraz: try f13 ... the beta was released today :) Apr 13 18:10:39 th0br0: do you have any idea if f13 has the moblin 2.1 ux? i've tried moblin on fedora before, but it was using the 2.0 ux Apr 13 18:11:24 uh, let me check ... Apr 13 18:12:26 what package should have ver 2.1? Apr 13 18:14:12 i'm not sure... Apr 13 18:14:55 well, mutter-moblin is ver 0.62 in f13; moblin 2.1 (http://repo.moblin.org/moblin/releases/2.1/ia32/os/i586/) has only got ver 0.43.3 Apr 13 18:15:48 moblin-gtk-engine is also newer Apr 13 18:15:57 so yeah, i think it's either 2.1 or some pre-2.2 Apr 13 18:16:16 good deal. have you had any experience running f13? is it pretty stable? Apr 13 18:16:40 i've got none at all :P Apr 13 18:16:46 haha. ok Apr 13 18:16:53 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Moblin-2.2 Apr 13 18:17:04 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/FedoraMoblin Apr 13 18:17:19 th0br0: don't think F13 supports the poulsbo drivers though Apr 13 18:17:44 i think we do Apr 13 18:17:58 lemme check Apr 13 18:18:05 this is the infamous GMA500 Apr 13 18:19:04 let me hcek Apr 13 18:19:20 toefraz: do you have the moblin ivi release with the iegd drviers ? Apr 13 18:19:53 also, what timezone are you in ? Apr 13 18:20:07 I'm UTC+1 (it's 19:20 here) Apr 13 18:20:22 mh, no idea tbh Apr 13 18:20:34 th0br0: ajax would know Apr 13 18:20:39 i don't have them. i'm UTC-5 Apr 13 18:20:50 US East coast ? Apr 13 18:21:05 UTC-6* Apr 13 18:21:07 central Apr 13 18:21:10 right Apr 13 18:21:57 slaine: i'm just asking some ppl Apr 13 18:22:10 th0br0: I'm 99.9999% sure it's not supported Apr 13 18:22:34 ^^ Apr 13 18:22:41 i'm pretty sure it's supported in f12 though Apr 13 18:22:42 the main question is the moblin version Apr 13 18:22:47 toefraz: rly? Apr 13 18:22:56 uh, what moblin version is in f13 and does f13 support the gma500 chipset (poulsbo)? Apr 13 18:22:57 not with an accelerated driver. Apr 13 18:22:57 i think so, or at least it's a hack Apr 13 18:23:51 or maybe i'm think f11 Apr 13 18:23:54 thinking* Apr 13 18:24:10 Not even with a native modesetting driver Apr 13 18:24:12 only vesa tho Apr 13 18:24:34 hrm Apr 13 18:25:07 It's supported in F11, that was the last release to support it (as it uses Xorg 1.6) Apr 13 18:25:19 th0br0: The last version of moblin, pretty much Apr 13 18:25:19 Pre-meego Apr 13 18:25:20 And the driver implementation is tied to Xorg 1.6 at the moment Apr 13 18:25:39 right Apr 13 18:26:05 and i'm pretty sure f11 used the moblin 2.0 ux though Apr 13 18:26:13 i think that's what i used before Apr 13 18:26:30 That's why you need Fedora 11, Ubuntu 9.04 (not sure if 9.11 was 1.6 or 1.7) Apr 13 18:26:30 ofc, you could try backporting xorg 1.6 to f13 ;) Apr 13 18:26:49 Stskeeps: backported 1.6 to meego and had some minor success Apr 13 18:27:19 But it might be simpler to get the Fedora 12 src.rpms and compile them up on Fedora 11 Apr 13 18:27:20 actually, success was quite good, except Qt/GL is acting up Apr 13 18:27:46 Stskeeps: last I asked about it Gl acceleration wasn't working at all, iirc Apr 13 18:27:53 slaine: i might try that Apr 13 18:27:59 it is working, except i was not seeing it Apr 13 18:29:21 meh Apr 13 19:02:43 lbt: got the jogglers Apr 13 19:02:46 lbt: thank you so much Apr 13 19:02:58 lbt: they are beautiful devices Apr 13 19:03:07 how many did you order? Apr 13 19:03:17 one for myself, one for cBuckle Apr 13 19:03:26 ah, you used lbt as an intermediary? Apr 13 19:03:42 yes, he's a good fence *cough* intermediary :) Apr 13 19:03:47 =) Apr 13 19:03:52 lol Apr 13 19:04:00 * javispedro listens Apr 13 19:04:01 TSCHAKeee2: slowly starting to make instructions for meego on joggler at http://jogglerwiki.info/index.php?title=MeeGo Apr 13 19:04:04 how many are they again? Apr 13 19:04:19 s/many/much/ Apr 13 19:04:19 th0br0 meant: how much are they again? Apr 13 19:04:23 Stskeeps: will they work now that the repo is gone ? Apr 13 19:04:29 slaine: what repo is gone? Apr 13 19:04:36 meego Apr 13 19:04:39 th0br0: £50 iirc Apr 13 19:04:47 Stskeeps: the Moblin IEGD repo Apr 13 19:04:59 slaine: didn't get to IEGD yet in instructions. manual instructions work OK Apr 13 19:05:03 Stskeeps: groovy bro :) Apr 13 19:05:20 mh slaine ... :) Apr 13 19:05:23 i assume the goal is to be able to do iegd automatically from mic2 ? Apr 13 19:05:26 ideally Apr 13 19:05:28 sounds interesting. maybe in the future Apr 13 19:05:33 whats the simplest way to get normal linux on a usb stick - can i just convert a ubuntu install nowadays? Apr 13 19:05:47 ubuntu has a stick creator Apr 13 19:06:26 Stskeeps: I am going to do a straight orbiter port to it for now (like I did for the SmartQ), but this device will DEFINITELY help in my new orbiter research. Apr 13 19:06:34 cool Apr 13 19:06:37 and I am going to treat it very much like a clock radio target Apr 13 19:06:45 because it looks so nice replacing a clock radio on my night stand Apr 13 19:07:08 I wish more stuff was made like this Apr 13 19:07:15 openpeak does some awesome industrial design Apr 13 19:07:25 lcuk, Quiet why distros still use .iso is beyond me Apr 13 19:07:51 Fedora have had to move up to a liveDVD iso now as it's gone up to 900+Mb Apr 13 19:08:12 no slaine Apr 13 19:08:18 SOME distros have moved up Apr 13 19:08:29 iso is more universal still Apr 13 19:08:39 liveDVD is an iso too Apr 13 19:08:50 bah - i was meaning vs usb Apr 13 19:08:54 nod Apr 13 19:09:09 .usbimg suits me fine :) Apr 13 19:09:19 yeah Apr 13 19:09:49 i cant put the meego usbimg on my multitouch monitor yet can i Apr 13 19:10:30 T4300 duar core Apr 13 19:10:34 dual even Apr 13 19:12:30 duar core sounds better Apr 13 19:13:57 good god Apr 13 19:14:00 fingerprint magnet Apr 13 19:14:02 ;) Apr 13 19:22:33 TSCHAKeee2, doesnt scare me as much as the unimpressiveness i feel at its multitouch handling Apr 13 19:24:06 it is multitouch? Apr 13 19:24:13 what device is this? Apr 13 19:24:48 yes TSCHAKeee2 Apr 13 19:24:54 packard bell onetwo Apr 13 19:24:59 and its shameful Apr 13 19:25:15 ???? Apr 13 19:25:24 it works fine for single touch Apr 13 19:25:28 ok Apr 13 19:25:35 http://liqbase.net/liq.packard.bell.multitouch.boobies.fail.20100402_003.mp4 Apr 13 19:25:37 oh, packard bell... it lives in Europe Apr 13 19:25:39 a video is worth 1000 words Apr 13 19:26:00 * TSCHAKeee2 listens to some Wire Apr 13 19:28:38 it acts like a resistive at times Apr 13 19:28:41 heh Apr 13 19:29:42 yep TSCHAKeee2 Apr 13 19:29:49 its very bizarre Apr 13 19:29:56 puaf Apr 13 19:30:00 the wepad :) Apr 13 19:30:22 is it hackable? Apr 13 19:30:38 it is N900-priced :) Apr 13 19:31:12 ah, android. Apr 13 19:31:28 * javispedro wonders why slashdot talks about oo.o Apr 13 19:34:20 javispedro, probably because Helmut mentioned an open source office package in one of the articles Apr 13 19:35:58 vcgomes: uh, it seems to be rather some linux (ubuntu?) that android etc is running on *top* of Apr 13 19:36:14 eh sorry, i meant javispedro Apr 13 19:38:47 yaeh, seems so. Apr 13 20:03:06 lol @ boobies fail =) Apr 13 20:03:23 boobies you say Apr 13 20:03:42 (22:25) < lcuk> http://liqbase.net/liq.packard.bell.multitouch.boobies.fail.20100402_003.mp4 Apr 13 20:05:54 rofl Apr 13 21:00:51 that's a bad touchscreen Apr 13 21:04:32 could it be a bad owner? first thing he wants to draw is boobs Apr 13 21:04:46 you've not met lcuk... Apr 13 21:05:23 lcuk: you can use fingers but not toughs Apr 13 21:30:10 CosmoHill, i noticed it when some of the microsoft surface apps werent working correctly Apr 13 21:30:19 theres a bamboo pond game Apr 13 21:30:23 2 players Apr 13 21:30:25 that was you doing that? Apr 13 21:30:27 one on each side of the screen Apr 13 21:30:31 yeah Apr 13 21:30:36 :o Apr 13 21:31:14 anyway - the water ripples occasionally glitched Apr 13 21:31:19 and occured where fingers werent Apr 13 21:31:33 so i backtraced and reproduced by drawing boobs and other things Apr 13 21:31:44 seemed natural Apr 13 21:34:27 what device was that? Apr 13 21:35:37 packard bell onetwo Apr 13 21:36:09 three! Apr 13 21:37:45 cool Apr 13 21:38:04 should be Apr 13 21:39:22 it was the only intel processor model pc world has in, very tempted to take it back, then every time i do i see another bit of liqbase on it and wonder whether im bothered. im geared for single touch more at the mo so ui is around that Apr 13 21:39:40 rest of the machine is great Apr 13 21:39:58 kids love messing on it Apr 13 21:41:58 nite all, sweet dreams Apr 13 22:01:03 I got the MeeGo kernel (config-generic) modified to run on the Joggler Apr 13 22:01:47 :o Apr 13 22:01:48 yay Apr 13 22:10:44 ffffreakin Apr 13 22:12:16 ooooutt Apr 13 22:12:36 *DINGDONG* Apr 13 22:12:45 who's there? Apr 13 22:41:04 Anybody in SF at the Summit have interesting plans for tonight? Apr 13 22:42:02 aw Apr 13 22:43:38 * GAN900 was going to iron shirts he packed incorrectly, take a nap then find an In-n-Out Burger. ;) Apr 13 23:13:06 http://cosmo1847.co.uk/?page=blog :) Apr 13 23:54:10 night night Apr 14 01:21:28 anybody out there? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Apr 14 02:59:56 2010