**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon May 17 02:59:57 2010
May 17 06:00:23 <Siva> hi..
May 17 06:00:33 <Siva> This is siva...
May 17 06:00:36 <Termana> hello Siva
May 17 06:00:52 <Siva> i have a few doubts about the meego wrt and webkit..
May 17 06:00:55 <Termana> This is Termana.... if you hadn't noticed.
May 17 06:01:04 <Siva> hi termana...
May 17 06:01:19 <Siva> how are you...
May 17 06:01:19 <Erkan_Yilmaz_> what did you do so far to clear the doubts Siva?
May 17 06:01:36 <Siva> i searched on the internet...:)
May 17 06:02:09 <Siva> i didnt get any proper answer.....in any of the forums..
May 17 06:02:14 <Erkan_Yilmaz_> oh :-(
May 17 06:02:21 <Siva> so i thought this is the best place for asking...
May 17 06:03:32 <Siva> any body have idea....of whether  meego wrt supports....jil bondi standards...?
May 17 06:05:53 <Siva> hello any body there....termana...? erkan...?
May 17 06:06:03 <jysky> or nobody doesn't know
May 17 06:06:07 * Erkan_Yilmaz_ prepares for work
May 17 06:06:56 <Termana> Siva, sorry, I haven't looked into Nokia's Web Runtime at all, so I don't have an answer.
May 17 06:09:23 <Siva> ok let me search then...if i know the answer i will tell you guys..
May 17 06:55:36 <timeless_mbp> Stskeeps: so, i've gotten sources for 963 or so things from meego :)
May 17 06:55:43 <Stskeeps> cool
May 17 06:56:23 <timeless_mbp> i'm building the xref now
May 17 06:59:05 * timeless_mbp is still trying to figure out what's up w/ "%{fontname}-ukai-fonts-0.2.20080216.1/"
May 17 07:01:55 <timeless_mbp> cute
May 17 07:02:08 <timeless_mbp> cjkuni-fonts.spec is just stupid :)
May 17 07:16:14 <Stskeeps> i kinda like the outcome of my big reveal thread, because it helps people understand why things are the way they are and all the responses i hear sounds like we're all on the same page
May 17 07:16:50 <timeless_mbp> url?
May 17 07:17:26 <Myrtti> yeah, url or it didn't happen
May 17 07:17:50 <Stskeeps> http://mwkn.net/2010/20/front.html and it refers the threa
May 17 07:17:53 <Stskeeps> d
May 17 07:21:06 <timeless_mbp> http://mxr-test.konigsberg.mozilla.org/mxr-test/source/.hg/patches/test-percent-readme?force=1
May 17 07:29:22 <Vali> Hi Stskeeps
May 17 07:29:50 <Stskeeps> hello there
May 17 07:33:49 <Stskeeps> morn slaine
May 17 07:34:00 <slaine> morning
May 17 07:34:30 <Vali> Hi slaine
May 17 07:34:37 <Vali> I have gone through OBS. it is a very good building service .. i didn't see building system  like this before so i just confused at starting ..but now it,s  fine i was able to build the some test packages using this OBS .
May 17 07:35:13 <Stskeeps> cool :)
May 17 07:35:56 <Vali> :)
May 17 07:44:20 <Vali> actually i was build the test package for Maemo . and i tried to build the same test package for MeeGo but ididn't seen any project repository for MeeGo to add as a build repositories ( i searched in the projects in the openSUSE projects i have seen different Maemo prjects but MeeGo is not there)
May 17 07:44:34 <Vali> am i missing something..?
May 17 07:46:32 <Vali> in proj meta data we have to add the repository information right to get dependencies..but for MeeGo which project repository i have to add to get the dependencies. .
May 17 07:46:43 <Vali> ?
May 17 07:47:39 <Stskeeps> well, that's the part that's not really out there yet :P
May 17 07:48:32 <Vali> ok..when it will be.?
May 17 07:49:14 <Vali> i think MeeGo1.0 is going to release in this month right..?
May 17 07:49:15 <Stskeeps> not sure
May 17 07:49:20 <Stskeeps> yes, i sure hope so :P
May 17 07:49:38 <timeless_mbp> but do you know what 1.0 is? :)
May 17 07:50:23 <Vali> don,t know actually i have seen in some blogs relate to this info...
May 17 07:50:51 <Vali> first release i think..
May 17 07:51:01 <timeless_mbp> of what? :)
May 17 07:51:09 <Vali> MeeGo
May 17 07:51:14 <timeless_mbp> what's that?
May 17 07:51:33 <Vali> MeeGo OS
May 17 07:52:03 <timeless_mbp> sorry, your answers aren't really sufficient. "what's that, really?"
May 17 07:52:04 <Vali> netbook OS
May 17 07:52:14 <timeless_mbp> ah, that's slightly more specific
May 17 07:52:33 <timeless_mbp> is it supposed to run on all netbooks? I have an eeePC (501 iirc), will it work there? :)
May 17 07:52:39 <timeless_mbp> will it be supported in 2020?
May 17 07:52:47 <Vali> it is well optimized efficient Embedded OS for NetBooks and
May 17 07:52:56 <timeless_mbp> the point of my questions is to make you understand what the actual scope of the release is
May 17 07:53:17 <timeless_mbp> i have a reasonable understanding of what meego is or might be
May 17 07:53:23 <timeless_mbp> but i'm not going to claim to know what 1.0 is
May 17 07:53:41 <timeless_mbp> i certainly don't know how long it will be supported, where, or by whom
May 17 07:53:46 <timeless_mbp> all of which are fairly important
May 17 07:54:06 <timeless_mbp> i don't know if it is supposed to include a build toolchain, or an sdk, or an sdk real people would want to use
May 17 07:54:36 <timeless_mbp> i don't know if people are supposed to use 1.0 to build packages, or if they're supposed to use a release branch and just set proper dependencies such that users get update packages as needed
May 17 07:54:37 * thiago_home doesn't get why we'd make an sdk for fictional people
May 17 07:54:51 <timeless_mbp> CTCP thiago_home TIME
May 17 07:55:03 <timeless_mbp> hrm, 9am
May 17 07:55:08 <thiago_home> here's a slash: /
May 17 07:55:18 <timeless_mbp> thiago_home: thanks, it was intentional
May 17 07:57:01 <Vali> ok
May 17 07:57:56 <timeless_mbp> fwiw, http://mxr.moego.org/maemo6/source/qt/tools/qml/qmlruntime.cpp
May 17 07:57:58 <timeless_mbp> hrm
May 17 07:59:22 <timeless_mbp> (random file, just showing off that it's indexed)
May 17 08:01:15 <thiago_home> cool
May 17 08:02:11 <timeless_mbp> i've gotten repo.meego.com pulled mostly, and filed a few bugs about crappy spec files
May 17 08:02:19 <timeless_mbp> i'm building an index of that now
May 17 08:02:58 <timeless_mbp> i can offer a sneak peak of that, it's currently 'repo2.meego.com' on the xref (repo.meego.com is still an alias for repo.moblin.org, until the xref finishes)
May 17 09:17:36 <slaine> timeless_mbp: that mxr url you posted is painfully slow, are there still problems ?
May 17 09:17:53 <kulve> I'm trying to use the ready made and self made usb images but I get ext3 errors really easily (especially if I install more stuff in there) and the rootfs gets mounted as read-only. Any hints what's going on..?
May 17 09:17:58 <timeless_mbp> slaine: each #include <NoSuchFile>
May 17 09:18:03 <timeless_mbp> is painful for mxr
May 17 09:18:26 <timeless_mbp> there's actually a patch to make mxr generally much faster, i was supposed to push that this weekend
May 17 09:18:28 <slaine> right, once it got past all the includes it picked up speed
May 17 09:18:43 <timeless_mbp> yeah, i added some caching for the includes a while ago
May 17 09:18:51 <timeless_mbp> but i'm not sure how well it deals w/ NoSuchFile
May 17 09:18:59 <timeless_mbp> and i can't remember how the caching works
May 17 09:20:46 <timeless_mbp> slaine: oo
May 17 09:20:53 <timeless_mbp> it looks like i'm using glimpse instead of my caching
May 17 09:20:58 <timeless_mbp> lemme see if caching is better
May 17 09:22:28 <timeless_mbp> slaine: try shift-reloading and tell me if it's better or worse
May 17 09:22:33 <timeless_mbp> i think it's worse now
May 17 09:22:47 <timeless_mbp> but i'm using Safari instead of Gecko, so i'm not certain
May 17 09:26:29 <slaine> timeless_mbp: it's worse
May 17 09:26:31 <timeless_mbp> ok
May 17 09:26:43 <timeless_mbp> reverted
May 17 09:26:54 <timeless_mbp> so, each #include <> triggers a glimpse search
May 17 09:27:47 <slaine> confirmed
May 17 09:29:26 * timeless_mbp ponders
May 17 09:31:39 <timeless_mbp> note that the top level directory is expensive because it tries to get directory descriptions for each directory — well, for the repo.* top levels, it's slow, for /maemo6 it isn't
May 17 09:54:48 * timeless_mbp sighs
May 17 09:55:03 <timeless_mbp> slaine: ok, i've pulled in a wire optimization
May 17 09:55:12 <timeless_mbp> but it of course doesn't help w/ the #include problem
May 17 09:55:44 <timeless_mbp> the code would really benefit from parallelizing the include lookups :(
May 17 09:56:05 <Termana> hello dneary
May 17 09:56:14 <dneary> hi
May 17 10:37:28 <timeless_mbp> 17612 timeless  25   0  131m 125m  572 R  5.0  7.4   8:38.30 glimpseindex
May 17 10:37:28 <timeless_mbp> 17621 timeless  25   0  159m 156m 2016 R  4.5  9.2  15:33.10 genxref
May 17 10:37:30 * timeless_mbp sighs
May 17 10:38:01 <timeless_mbp> file 22745 of 304234 ...
May 17 10:38:22 <timeless_mbp> oh brother
May 17 10:38:31 <timeless_mbp> ---------- 1 timeless timeless 0 May 17 01:52 /data/meego.com/BUILD//multipath-tools/cciss_id/Makefile.cciss_id
May 17 10:38:48 <timeless_mbp> which brilliant guy decided it was ok to have files w/ no read bits?
May 17 11:13:41 <sp3000> but its size is zero, how would the bits fit?!11
May 17 14:49:06 <slaine> Does anyone know of a qt theme that looks like the moblin gtk2 theme ?
May 17 14:52:36 <thiago_home> the QGtkStyle
May 17 15:01:27 <w00t_> slaine: did you see thiago_home's answer before sending to the ML?
May 17 15:01:49 <slaine> no, I sent the email first, then thought to ask here
May 17 15:01:53 <w00t_> aha
May 17 15:09:38 * TSCHAKeee puts on the Spiral Scratch EP and cranks it
May 17 15:19:31 <range> a/act
May 17 16:12:38 <Nadley> hi everybody
May 17 16:12:42 <Nadley> what's new here
May 17 16:13:29 <pupnik_> see topic
May 17 16:14:47 <Nadley> ok
May 17 16:19:38 <twoboxen> Is there any sort of schedule for when prebuilt images are updated?  For example, the n900 images are a month and a half old
May 17 16:20:11 <X-Fade> twoboxen: There will be an 1.0 release this month.
May 17 16:20:44 <twoboxen> is there a planned featureset for 1.0 on the wiki?
May 17 18:11:36 <Stskeeps> evening
May 17 18:12:04 <CosmoHill> hi
May 17 18:50:22 <Stskeeps> quiet day on #meego today
May 17 18:50:40 <thiago_home> yeah
May 17 18:55:51 <heffer> can't be the weather though
May 17 18:56:28 <jysky> really?
May 17 18:56:43 <jysky> it's been over 20,5°c for days now
May 17 18:56:44 <Stskeeps> horrid weather here
May 17 18:56:52 <jysky> it's been over 25°c for days now
May 17 18:56:56 <heffer> rain, rain and some rain
May 17 18:57:00 <jysky> :D
May 17 18:57:04 <thiago_home> it's a day off
May 17 18:57:07 <jysky> i miss winter
May 17 18:57:56 <Stskeeps> warm weather in finland isn't very good for meego progress, hackers should stay inside cos it's bad weather ;)
May 17 18:58:05 <jysky> .D
May 17 18:58:21 <heffer> isn't there some perky bot in this channel that announces the current weather? so we could all join in and present each other our local weather? :P
May 17 18:58:21 <jysky> whaat. nice weather forecast. over 20mm rain in an hour
May 17 18:59:40 <lcuk> Stskeeps, meego handheld project should target developers who are sat on a beach :p
May 17 18:59:58 <Stskeeps> what, meego hobos?
May 17 19:00:17 <lcuk> cool ass WRT XML javascript devs are too hip to be basement dwellers ;)
May 17 19:00:17 <thiago_home> meego slate UX
May 17 19:00:22 <lcuk> more likely seen at apple events
May 17 19:00:47 <jysky> :)
May 17 19:01:33 * Stskeeps wonders if uiemo works on n810
May 17 19:01:49 <thiago_home> no reason why not
May 17 19:03:24 <TSCHAKeee> Stskeeps, what's the last version of mer that was built on diablo?
May 17 19:03:29 <lcuk> thiago_home, in the case of thumbnailing large image files, does qt manage its own with a low priority filesystem scanner, or does it use he thumbnailer store thats on the target machine?
May 17 19:03:57 <Stskeeps> TSCHAKeee: never, besides 0.2 and it was already kinda fremantle-ish there
May 17 19:04:02 <thiago_home> lcuk: no answer, there's no thumbnailer.
May 17 19:04:14 <TSCHAKeee> meh
May 17 19:04:15 <TSCHAKeee> okay
May 17 19:04:24 <Stskeeps> 0.16 is what you're probably asking about
May 17 19:04:26 <TSCHAKeee> i'd like a maemo like system
May 17 19:04:32 <TSCHAKeee> on my geode tablet
May 17 19:04:34 <TSCHAKeee> (yes, laugh)
May 17 19:04:37 <TSCHAKeee> (go ahead)
May 17 19:04:41 <lcuk> ahhh thiago_home so if i wanted to make a list of all images and show them in qt ive got to read / parse the full size images?
May 17 19:05:05 <lcuk> all 4gb of them
May 17 19:05:13 <lcuk> or however many are on other peoples devices
May 17 19:05:20 <thiago_home> lcuk: or load them in a smaller resolution
May 17 19:05:30 <thiago_home> you don't need to load the entire image at full res
May 17 19:06:05 <lcuk> sure, but loading in a 5mp image as a thumbnail still takes much longer than just reading the cache thumb
May 17 19:06:11 <lcuk> or larger
May 17 19:06:17 * javispedro tries rain machine over finland
May 17 19:06:29 <lcuk> what resolution camera does the new N8 phone have?
May 17 19:06:30 <lcuk> 12mp?
May 17 19:06:54 <javispedro> http://europe.nokia.com/find-products/devices/nokia-n8/features
May 17 19:06:56 <javispedro> -- yes.
May 17 19:07:05 <lcuk> that runs qt doesnt it?
May 17 19:07:14 <RST38h> Runs Symbian
May 17 19:07:15 <thiago_home> 12 MP yes
May 17 19:07:21 <lcuk> qt sits ontop tho?
May 17 19:07:24 <RST38h> Qt is a toolkit
May 17 19:07:43 <RST38h> How much Qt it runs I am not sure but probably not much - most of the UI still looks Avkon
May 17 19:08:05 <thiago_home> the same features page lists "Qt 4.6.2", see http://europe.nokia.com/find-products/devices/nokia-n8/specifications
May 17 19:08:08 <lcuk> ok, sidetracking slightly
May 17 19:08:18 <thiago_home> RST38h: all of Qt is on it
May 17 19:08:18 <lcuk> but pointing out loading a large list of images
May 17 19:08:21 <thiago_home> except Qt3support
May 17 19:08:29 <lcuk> is a required thing and wondering how best to do it
May 17 19:08:33 <Stskeeps> thiago_home: what's your opinion on what to use for touch devices? raw qt with 'mobile' styles?
May 17 19:08:37 <RST38h> thiago: Do builtin apps use it>
May 17 19:08:51 <thiago_home> Stskeeps: QML
May 17 19:09:04 <thiago_home> RST38h: no, that's a Symbian^3 device
May 17 19:09:12 <thiago_home> Symbian^4 apps are built with Qt
May 17 19:09:13 <RST38h> thiago: Then it runs Avkon.
May 17 19:11:15 <lcuk> thiago_home, how do i tell qt to load me a thumbnail instead of a full resolution image?
May 17 19:11:29 <thiago_home> lcuk: load the image at a lower resolution
May 17 19:11:32 <thiago_home> the API, I don't know
May 17 19:11:37 <thiago_home> ask me about non-graphical stuff
May 17 19:12:04 <lcuk> heh that was non graphical ;)
May 17 19:12:12 <thiago_home> images are graphical to me
May 17 19:12:14 <lcuk> ill go look
May 17 19:12:17 <lcuk> thanks
May 17 19:13:06 <RST38h> thiago: non-graphical stuff is handled by libc and pthreads :)
May 17 19:13:18 <RST38h> it is graphical stuff that matters in qt
May 17 19:13:24 <thiago_home> not really
May 17 19:13:31 <thiago_home> non-graphical stuff is hanlded by QtCore, QtNetwork
May 17 19:13:33 <thiago_home> QtDBus
May 17 19:13:43 <thiago_home> all of which I can help you with
May 17 19:14:04 <RST38h> QtDBus I can understand, there lis libsocket and libnsl for the network
May 17 19:14:32 <thiago_home> no, not really
May 17 19:15:01 <RST38h> thiago: But, getting back to the graphical stuff, why can't I make my main window fautomatically fill the screen (and change dimensions when it rotates)?
May 17 19:15:03 <lcuk> RST38h, i like the positive idea of a qt application being completely encapsulated by the api - if you have to step outside it to do any work you lose the encapsulation and potential to cross platform easily
May 17 19:15:09 <thiago_home> you're also missing event loops, tool classes, etc.
May 17 19:15:15 <RST38h> thiago: Using much advertised Nokia Qt SDK for N900 target
May 17 19:15:19 <thiago_home> RST38h: I said "ask me non-graphical stuff"
May 17 19:15:21 <w00t_> lcuk: QImage/QPixmap both have scaling methods, or you can do it on the fly (depending on codec) using QImageReader
May 17 19:15:27 <thiago_home> I can't help you with the graphical stuff. It's not my area.
May 17 19:15:35 <RST38h> lcuk: It also means you have to carry qt wherever you go
May 17 19:16:01 <thiago_home> yeah, that's the intention
May 17 19:16:01 <lcuk> sure w00t_ but in the time any of the processes have loaded the fullsize image i could have loaded a screenfull of thumbs
May 17 19:16:02 <RST38h> lcuk: Which is a non-starter for me, as I often go to weird places and hate carrying huge lumps of foreign code with me
May 17 19:16:03 <thiago_home> Qt Everywhere.
May 17 19:16:23 <RST38h> lcuk: I mean, Qt everywhere is definitely thiago's intention, but I have other intentions.
May 17 19:16:35 <lcuk> sure RST38h
May 17 19:16:43 <w00t_> lcuk: erm, if you don't have a thumbnail of it already, you need to create one, you can't really avoid that :p
May 17 19:17:01 <w00t_> obviously if you're saving thumbs in some form, you can reuse that and not bother with the full version
May 17 19:17:04 <RST38h> lcuk: Which usually end me up with as few dependencies as possible, and as common dependencies as they come (i.e. libc etc)
May 17 19:17:05 <lcuk> w00t_, i was asking about the qt normal way to do it
May 17 19:17:11 <lcuk> on maemo fremantle we have tracker
May 17 19:17:19 <timeless_mbp> RST38h: why would someone who works on Qt professionally want Qt everywhere?!
May 17 19:17:21 <lcuk> but on maemo diablo for instance it doesnt afaik
May 17 19:17:30 <lcuk> and theres potentially not one around
May 17 19:17:32 <w00t_> lcuk: ah, so you're more asking about a place to cache them?
May 17 19:17:33 <timeless_mbp> that's almost like someone working on a browser wanting browsers everywhere!
May 17 19:18:01 <lcuk> w00t_, im asking whether theres  qt api to that functionality which will return thumbnail correct for the system its sat ontop of
May 17 19:18:22 <thiago_home> lcuk: there's no facility in Qt for tapping onto the system's thumbnail cache
May 17 19:18:25 <lcuk> whether its using tracker or windows thumbnailer or doing it itself
May 17 19:18:28 <thiago_home> however, you can make the thumbnail yourself.
May 17 19:18:30 <w00t_> lcuk: ok, then no, that doesn't exist
May 17 19:18:37 <w00t_> it would perhaps be a nice addition, though
May 17 19:19:43 <lcuk> (asked mainly because of the talk of n810
May 17 19:19:48 <lcuk> and i know that doesnt have thumbs ;)
May 17 19:20:17 <lcuk> and loading them on the fly is hard work for each app to do
May 17 19:20:23 <w00t_> it wouldn't be hard to provide a generic backend for it
May 17 19:20:52 <w00t_> it's actually not that difficult to do codewise, it's not as efficient to ask them all to do it though
May 17 19:20:53 <jysky> http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/17/zte-packs-3g-maemo-into-its-v7-mid/ what's this
May 17 19:20:54 <lcuk> of course - it would do whats right based on the OS its compiled against
May 17 19:21:27 <RST38h> jysky: looks like diablo
May 17 19:22:08 <jysky> strange, that's ancient
May 17 19:22:10 <lcuk> jysky, thats nice looking hw
May 17 19:22:19 <jysky> yeah
May 17 19:22:28 <javispedro> ha, Nokia is doomed!
May 17 19:22:32 <lcuk> :) very n810 locked keybpoard outish
May 17 19:22:39 <jysky> :)
May 17 19:22:41 <RST38h> javis: add more o's in there
May 17 19:22:53 <RST38h> dooOO00OOoomed!
May 17 19:23:57 * javispedro wonders who at zte is so crazy to actually like maemo
May 17 19:25:03 <jysky> :)
May 17 19:25:06 <lcuk> because maemo is cool and worth liking
May 17 19:25:31 <jysky> i was about to say "i thought there were many nerds who like it"
May 17 19:25:43 <jysky> specially those debianish people
May 17 19:26:28 <javispedro> and they even made a fremantleish theme for the diablo hildon-desktop!
May 17 19:27:29 <lcuk> they arent the first afaik
May 17 19:28:44 <javispedro> yeah I kinda remember that "other" one
May 17 19:28:54 <jysky> that other one? :D
May 17 19:29:02 <RST38h> jysky: everyone knows maemo sucks, it is slow, lacks apps, and has bugs
May 17 19:29:05 <javispedro> even more crazy, so there are at least TWO device manufacturers that even like maemo!
May 17 19:29:31 <jysky> RST38h, talk.maemo.org and you find those faith boys there
May 17 19:29:50 <RST38h> javispedro: As both are from .cn, the correct wording is not "like" but "see an opportunity in" =)
May 17 19:30:28 <lcuk> RST38h, which handheld device runs your emulators best?
May 17 19:31:02 <TSCHAKeee> how the hell are they getting the source for diablo?
May 17 19:31:20 <Stskeeps> it's open source, some of it
May 17 19:32:19 <jysky> well... it's linux, with nokia's gui, so it shouldn't be too hard to imitate
May 17 19:32:48 <lcuk> did the pandora ever come out?
May 17 19:33:06 <jysky> she is still in the box? :)
May 17 19:33:12 <lcuk> i dunno
May 17 19:33:19 <CosmoHill> she's still in the closest?
May 17 19:33:30 <RST38h> lcuk: An x86 tablet running MSDOS =)
May 17 19:33:30 <CosmoHill> *cupboard
May 17 19:33:38 * RST38h laughs satanically
May 17 19:33:41 <lcuk> RST38h, not quite the same ballpark
May 17 19:34:00 <lcuk> which of the recent handheld phone thingies
May 17 19:34:11 <RST38h> I guess, N900 then
May 17 19:34:55 <jysky> don't know that any other system has as many emulator softwares
May 17 19:35:18 * RST38h has not done any porting to WinMo (do not have a device), shunned iPhone (don't like anal sex), and the S60e5 version is unfinished
May 17 19:35:50 <RST38h> So, I guess the Maemo versions are most up to date
May 17 19:40:14 <heffer> Stskeeps, now you got the noise you wanted?
May 17 19:40:26 <Stskeeps> yes ;)
May 17 19:40:45 <heffer> still waiting for the first one to announce that the meego site is actually down
May 17 19:52:37 <TSCHAKeee> Stskeeps, what's the closest debian version that mer 0.16 tracks?
May 17 19:52:46 <TSCHAKeee> (no more questions after this, promise) ;)
May 17 19:52:48 <heffer> okay nokia guys. we all had our fun. now please turn on the mysql server again
May 17 19:53:02 <Stskeeps> TSCHAKeee: it's ubuntu 9.04
May 17 19:53:11 <TSCHAKeee> Stskeeps, gotcha. thanks
May 17 19:56:39 <bitkiller> meego wiki down?
May 17 19:56:46 <heffer> bitkiller, you won the prize
May 17 19:56:54 <bitkiller> thanks
May 17 19:56:59 <bitkiller> :)
May 17 19:58:00 <heffer> i think it was the cleaning lady. she accidentially hit the switch on the mysql server
May 17 20:06:17 <alecrim> meego site offline
May 17 20:21:19 <DawnFoster> we're working on the website issues right now
May 17 20:21:51 <Stskeeps> next up is someone claiming meego.com is down because something big is getting announced
May 17 20:21:54 <Stskeeps> :P
May 17 20:22:49 <CosmoHill> hey DawnFoster
May 17 20:23:19 <DawnFoster> I can definitely say that it has nothing to do with any kind of release :)
May 17 20:23:41 <DawnFoster> unless they forgot to tell me about some super secret release :)
May 17 20:24:42 <thiago_home> it's so secret that no one knows about it
May 17 20:24:44 <thiago_home> can't leak
May 17 20:26:04 <heffer> DawnFoster, admit it. you spilled your coffee over the MySQL server.
May 17 20:26:44 <DawnFoster> I only drink tea, so I couldn't have spilled my coffee on it :)
May 17 20:27:44 * thiago_home wonders if the mythbusters have ever tested what does more damage to your laptop
May 17 20:27:52 <thiago_home> coffee, tea, beer, water or soft drink
May 17 20:28:06 <heffer> DawnFoster, nice. i prefer tea as well :)
May 17 20:28:20 <heffer> does that get me a job at intel? :P
May 17 20:30:24 <DawnFoster> nice try :)
May 17 20:30:43 <CosmoHill> thiago_home: that''s an interesting cocktail you have there
May 17 20:53:46 <heffer> yay. thanks for fixing the webpage
May 17 20:55:25 <DawnFoster> things seem to be back up and running now.
May 17 21:15:24 <chris____> Hi all
May 17 21:16:54 <CosmoHill> hi chris____ with long tail
May 17 21:17:31 <chris____> Dont know how come this tail came in thoug I have ponny
May 17 21:18:50 <chris____> Hey we just found meego is available for N900, we were wondering if meego is put on N900 then will there be any UI?
May 17 21:19:11 <thiago_home> yes
May 17 21:19:14 <thiago_home> you'll have twm and xterm
May 17 21:19:20 <thiago_home> :-)
May 17 21:19:30 <Stskeeps> twm does not come with install
May 17 21:19:31 <Stskeeps> ;)
May 17 21:19:39 <thiago_home> it's not twm? what is it?
May 17 21:19:40 <chris____> :) thats it ??? will there be x11 sort of thing?
May 17 21:19:41 <thiago_home> no wm?
May 17 21:19:48 <thiago_home> chris____: yes, it will be x11
May 17 21:19:59 <Stskeeps> thiago_home: xterm :P
May 17 21:20:11 <thiago_home> Stskeeps: xterm is not a wm.
May 17 21:20:21 <thiago_home> the question is whether any wm was running
May 17 21:20:22 <Stskeeps> no, but it just gets placed somewhere :P
May 17 21:20:26 <Stskeeps> and no, no wm running
May 17 21:20:34 <thiago_home> I see
May 17 21:22:53 <chris____> we are reading blogs and it seems that Nokias QT (dont knwo what does this stands for) can be used as development framwork so to write some sexy app for N900 Where will we get all necessary tool ??
May 17 21:23:32 <thiago_home> yes
May 17 21:23:39 <thiago_home> Qt is just Qt, it doesn't expand to anything
May 17 21:25:41 <chris____> thiago: wondering what is so special about QT as QT nothing else, it neither sounds that catch to me. But any way wheather QT or TQ where can we find all related tools for development for N900
May 17 21:26:58 <thiago_home> the trademark is Qt, with a lowercase t
May 17 21:27:09 <thiago_home> all the tools are available for the N900
May 17 21:27:25 <thiago_home> there's also the Nokia Qt SDK, which is the same interface for the N900 and for Symbian-based devices
May 17 21:27:35 <thiago_home> there's no MeeGo SDK yet, but there will be soon now
May 17 21:28:27 <chris____> Yes one of my coll. downloaded that and installed but the tutorial is not talking about Meego and it only talks about Maemo thats where we were looking for some help how to do it on Meego
May 17 21:29:16 <chris____> Ok you mean more  helpfull stuff will be coming latter, ok any idea when?
May 17 21:30:28 <thiago_home> soon
May 17 21:31:00 <chris____> Okay Thanx
May 17 21:31:13 <chris____> hope will have it in couple of month
May 17 21:50:19 <trem> nite all, sweet dreams
May 17 22:07:11 <Shapeshifter> ".....techno mage..." that rang a bell
May 17 22:07:30 <Shapeshifter> oh. just realised they were talking about that some hours ago
May 17 22:10:35 <hoverbear> SO how's meego?
May 17 22:18:50 <nizox> aa/g 22
May 17 22:20:32 <nizox> oops sry
May 17 23:33:08 <CosmoHill> cyas
May 18 00:16:13 <Termana> good morning
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