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Jun 11 06:29:48 <Tm_T> good morning all
Jun 11 06:29:59 <Stskeeps> morn
Jun 11 07:05:14 <shazkhan> morning
Jun 11 08:43:44 <slaine> howdy folks
Jun 11 08:43:50 <Stskeeps> morn slaine
Jun 11 09:27:28 <Myrtti> moin
Jun 11 09:28:43 <Stskeeps> moin Myrtti
Jun 11 11:39:34 <BT> Hi, I have sucessfully compiled QT and ported on beagleboard on top of Meego
Jun 11 11:40:19 <BT> But I alooking for some info on xfce or some window manager that can be installed or can be used to make the rootfs
Jun 11 11:52:32 <BT> looking for some info on window manager that can be used on beagleboard.
Jun 11 12:08:40 <slaine> BT, #meego-arm might have some answers ?
Jun 11 12:27:06 <Tina-> hi hi :)
Jun 11 12:28:01 <Tina-> i would like to install some apps how i do that (i'm not familiar with rpm / yum , using gentoo for like 8-9 years)
Jun 11 12:28:54 <Tina-> but i rather want to know more about the 'shell + panel' , would be nice if i could built it on my gentoo partition
Jun 11 12:29:51 <Tina-> i found some gitorious page , but dunno what sources are needed for the panel
Jun 11 12:31:20 <Tina-> an other question i want to rebuild the kernel and add ext4 support but make gives me an error :/
Jun 11 12:32:18 <slaine> Tina-: the UX is comprised of mutter window manager, the mutter-moblin project, which provides a plugin to mutter that manages window show/hide etc. and also owns the toolbar. The other apps then register with mutter-moblin via dbus and the toolbar in mutter-mobin manages them. If I read the source code correctly that is :)
Jun 11 12:33:09 <Tina-> ty slaine i'll have a look at mutter-moblin project
Jun 11 12:34:00 <Tina-> slaine: can you add other repositories? (to get more apps) like i want irssi
Jun 11 12:34:16 <slaine> There are no other repos
Jun 11 12:34:51 <slaine> don't make the mistake of assuming that because it's rpm based, fedora packages will install
Jun 11 12:35:54 * thiago never installs fedora packages on his non-fedora distro
Jun 11 12:38:14 <Tina-> about the kernel , why is the arch set to pentium-m and not atom?
Jun 11 12:38:30 <Tina->  /arch/cpu set
Jun 11 12:40:36 <Tina-> btw any good reason why ext4 aint supported (bummer for me as 90% of all my data is ext4)
Jun 11 12:40:37 <slaine> thiago: you'd be surprised how many people do
Jun 11 12:41:12 <thiago> slaine: actually, I'm not. Lots of people ask that question in #mandriva
Jun 11 12:41:13 <slaine> next to the cpu arch issues, it's the second most common question or plea for help :)
Jun 11 12:41:35 <slaine> thiago: sigh
Jun 11 12:42:24 <Stskeeps> morn sjgadsby
Jun 11 12:42:38 <sjgadsby> Good morning, Stskeeps.
Jun 11 12:55:57 <Tina-> think i'll cp some of my gentoo kernel sources to meego and compile that kernel from a chroot in my gentoo
Jun 11 12:58:23 <hcl2> where is the source code for the Xorg that is bundled with the downloadable images?
Jun 11 12:58:51 <slaine> repo.meego.com
Jun 11 15:09:43 <lbt_> anaZ: ping
Jun 11 16:54:23 <GAN900> w00t_, as a general response, I'm address Nokia and its actions as a company.
Jun 11 16:54:50 <RST38h> You are address?
Jun 11 16:54:59 <GAN900> w00t_, which is where the negative tone in Texrat's post comes from.
Jun 11 16:55:05 <GAN900> RST38h, yeah, yeah.
Jun 11 16:56:31 * RST38h dereferences GAN900
Jun 11 16:58:28 <w00t_> GAN900: don't take it too harshly, I think my own *reply* came off a bit more angry than I intended
Jun 11 17:01:07 <w00t_> FatalSaint: ping
Jun 11 17:05:30 <GAN900> w00t_, well, I just wanted to clarify on the source of the negativity.
Jun 11 17:06:06 <GAN900> w00t_, I agree with your points, I'm just so tired of Nokia doing nearly everything they can to make things fail.
Jun 11 17:06:45 <w00t_> GAN900: I still do think it's a bit early *yet*.. certainly not the time for unbridled hope and optimism and fluffy kittens yet, but not the time for panning it either
Jun 11 17:06:49 <RST38h> They do not care. They do not have to. They are the Phone Company.
Jun 11 17:06:49 * GAN900 doesn't know how he ended up in #meego.
Jun 11 17:06:55 <w00t_> oh, yes
Jun 11 17:06:59 <w00t_> we should be on #maemo
Jun 11 17:07:03 * w00t_ switches
Jun 11 17:18:40 <n0greenfx> hey i neeed some help im running ubuntu and trying to get the meego image onto usb but im not sure how the wiki directions use terminal and it seems to be confusing me
Jun 11 17:18:47 <n0greenfx> are there any gui apps i can us
Jun 11 17:20:16 <CosmoHill> iirc there was something about a gui app on ubuntu
Jun 11 17:20:32 <n0greenfx> on the wiki?
Jun 11 17:22:34 <CosmoHill> hmm maybe not
Jun 11 17:22:51 <CosmoHill> i thought ubuntu had a program for writing images to USB
Jun 11 17:23:07 <n0greenfx> havent foound one yet
Jun 11 17:23:18 <CosmoHill> I could guide you through the terminal if you want
Jun 11 17:23:29 <n0greenfx> ok
Jun 11 17:23:57 <n0greenfx> the .img is on my desktop
Jun 11 17:24:04 <CosmoHill> unplug your memory stick if it is and open the terminal
Jun 11 17:24:15 <n0greenfx> k
Jun 11 17:24:32 <n0greenfx> done
Jun 11 17:25:05 <CosmoHill> type "ls /dev/sd*" and it should return letters like sda sdb etc, it doesn't matter what the numbers after them are
Jun 11 17:25:47 <n0greenfx> no such directory
Jun 11 17:26:07 <n0greenfx> wait
Jun 11 17:26:11 <n0greenfx> forgot the *
Jun 11 17:26:15 <CosmoHill> it's a lowercase L
Jun 11 17:26:38 <n0greenfx> output is /dev/sda
Jun 11 17:26:53 <n0greenfx> all the way to de/sda5
Jun 11 17:28:23 <CosmoHill> okay plug in your memory stick and wait for it to stop flashing
Jun 11 17:28:51 <n0greenfx> ok
Jun 11 17:28:56 <CosmoHill> then type the above command in again
Jun 11 17:29:13 <CosmoHill> there should be a new drive called /dev/sdb*
Jun 11 17:29:32 <n0greenfx> yep no * tho
Jun 11 17:29:46 <n0greenfx> i have dev/sdb and dev/sdb1
Jun 11 17:30:09 <CosmoHill> this will be the memory stick you've just plugged in
Jun 11 17:30:17 <CosmoHill> where did you save your image?
Jun 11 17:30:22 <n0greenfx> desktop
Jun 11 17:30:29 <CosmoHill> cd ~/Desktop
Jun 11 17:30:43 <n0greenfx> k
Jun 11 17:30:46 <CosmoHill> type "ls *.img" and see if you can see the meego image
Jun 11 17:31:07 <n0greenfx> yep i can
Jun 11 17:31:12 <CosmoHill> good
Jun 11 17:31:25 <CosmoHill> now the following bit will remove all your data on the memory stick
Jun 11 17:31:37 <n0greenfx> theres none on it so thts fine
Jun 11 17:31:49 <CosmoHill> so type carefully
Jun 11 17:32:09 <CosmoHill> also i'll teach you about tab complete quickly, unless you already know it?
Jun 11 17:32:20 <n0greenfx> i know it
Jun 11 17:32:27 <CosmoHill> good
Jun 11 17:32:34 <CosmoHill> use it on the meego image
Jun 11 17:32:39 <n0greenfx> ok
Jun 11 17:32:48 <CosmoHill> now type the following command where meego.img is the full name of your meego image
Jun 11 17:32:54 <n0greenfx> yep
Jun 11 17:33:20 <CosmoHill> "dd if=meego.img of=/dev/sdb" << /dev/sdb is the drive you will save the image too
Jun 11 17:33:34 <CosmoHill> if you type "sda" you'll have a lot of problems
Jun 11 17:33:41 <n0greenfx> ok
Jun 11 17:34:12 <CosmoHill> now just wait until your memory stick stops flashing, took me about 20 minutes I think on my memory card
Jun 11 17:34:39 <n0greenfx> permisssion denied
Jun 11 17:34:53 <n0greenfx> dd: opening `/dev/sdb': Permission denied
Jun 11 17:35:33 <n0greenfx> ill try a different usb
Jun 11 17:35:46 <CosmoHill> oh no wait
Jun 11 17:35:49 <CosmoHill> sorry my mistake
Jun 11 17:36:20 <CosmoHill> "sudo dd if=meego.img of=/dev/sdb"
Jun 11 17:36:24 <n0greenfx> aa
Jun 11 17:36:28 <n0greenfx> ok
Jun 11 17:36:44 <CosmoHill> I forgot about sudo, it runs the command as the root user
Jun 11 17:37:27 <n0greenfx> ok its running i think
Jun 11 17:37:42 <n0greenfx> i got no error or anything
Jun 11 17:38:06 <n0greenfx> how is meego on a netbook
Jun 11 17:38:40 <CosmoHill> I've not been able to run it unfortunately
Jun 11 17:39:20 <n0greenfx> that sucks
Jun 11 17:39:46 <n0greenfx> i just got an aspire one so ii figuered id try it out
Jun 11 17:40:04 <n0greenfx> tried jolicloud and wasnt a big fan
Jun 11 17:40:11 <n0greenfx> real buggy
Jun 11 17:40:15 <CosmoHill> I had a quick look at some netbooks today and decided not to get one
Jun 11 17:40:24 <CosmoHill> a lot of money for something I probably won't use
Jun 11 17:40:40 <n0greenfx> yea agreed i got it as a gift
Jun 11 17:41:10 <n0greenfx> i could never actually do any work on one
Jun 11 17:45:38 <IanSun> jdjd
Jun 11 17:46:03 <CosmoHill> would you like some coke with your JD?
Jun 11 17:46:06 <CosmoHill> I guess not
Jun 11 17:46:43 <n0greenfx> lol
Jun 11 17:56:47 <IanSun> hi
Jun 11 17:57:31 <Stskeeps> better than 'jdjd' :)
Jun 11 18:06:41 <CosmoHill> do you think we can get a sentence out of him?
Jun 11 18:27:49 <Stskeeps> ah, grass pollen season, how i love thee
Jun 11 18:30:33 * CosmoHill hands Stskeeps some hayefever pills
Jun 11 18:30:44 <CosmoHill> I can get 7 branded ones for £4.50
Jun 11 18:30:54 <CosmoHill> or 30 unbranded ones for £4
Jun 11 21:24:19 <wiretapped> stupid question: is it currently possible to make cellular calls (somehow, some way) with meego 1.0 on n900?
Jun 11 21:25:03 <wiretapped> i understand the handset ux isnt there... but is there command-line dialing, or has anyone brought up an existing dialer app?
Jun 11 21:26:04 * wiretapped has been keeping half an eye on meego
Jun 11 21:26:09 <wiretapped> or maybe .25 of an eye
Jun 11 21:26:42 <wiretapped> ok maybe 0.05 of an eye
Jun 11 21:30:24 <w00t_> wiretapped: no
Jun 11 21:30:30 <w00t_> not yet, at least
Jun 11 21:32:43 <TSCHAKeee2> right now, controlling the n900's modem through ofono is not....easy...at the moment
Jun 11 21:32:57 <TSCHAKeee2> especially since
Jun 11 21:33:07 <TSCHAKeee2> the images containing the needed closed binaries aren't ready yet
Jun 11 21:33:27 <TSCHAKeee2> soon though, stskeeps and team are resolving a nasty issue with bme and the kernel
Jun 11 21:33:42 <TSCHAKeee2> (battery charging currently causes....intermittent....reboots....)
Jun 11 21:47:06 <FatalSaint> w00t_ pong :p
Jun 11 22:19:14 <CosmoHill> FatalSaint: that would be an accurate description of w00t_
Jun 11 22:30:38 <CosmoHill> wiretapped: you only need IRC
Jun 11 22:30:41 <CosmoHill> :)
Jun 11 22:51:37 <CosmoHill> night night
Jun 12 00:28:43 <Alexandercp1> good night
Jun 12 00:28:52 <Alexandercp1> evening
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