**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jun 13 02:59:56 2010
Jun 13 06:16:25 <Tina-> i curently run a custom kernel 2.6.35-git(my gentoo build kernel) :) so i have ext4 support and run things i miss in meego in a chroot , so i have java in firefox and have some more codecs , but it would be nice if i knew how mee-go is packaged , like just build a repo with bin's
Jun 13 06:16:55 <Tina-> is that possible userend repo?
Jun 13 06:18:11 <Tina-> (guess ppl sleep ^.^)
Jun 13 06:18:20 * Tina- ssshsh :x
Jun 13 06:19:07 <Stskeeps> you're early up :P
Jun 13 06:19:23 <Tina-> aw did i wake you ?
Jun 13 06:20:33 <Tina-> aint nokia pushing for qt , so why all the gtk+ stuff ??
Jun 13 06:21:36 <Stskeeps> well. even in maemo, qt apps existed as a toolkit alongside..
Jun 13 06:21:40 <Stskeeps> because it'd be a shame to let go of all the good stuff made for netbook ux, really
Jun 13 06:22:50 <Tina-> the mutter thingie used is it the one that works with metacity or the one that replaces metacity?
Jun 13 06:23:50 <Tina-> can i generate a list installed packages with yum ? (never used it b4)
Jun 13 06:24:39 <Stskeeps> you'd usually use rpm for that
Jun 13 06:24:40 <Stskeeps> rpm -q -a
Jun 13 06:24:57 * Tina- memorizes
Jun 13 06:25:10 <Tina-> i only know emerge ^.^
Jun 13 06:25:49 <Stskeeps> took me a while to understand the various commands too, but once i mastered them, i actually liked them better than for example debian counterparts :P
Jun 13 06:25:58 <Tina-> >> Emerging (27 of 89) gnome-extra/at-spi-1.30.1 from gnome  atm
Jun 13 06:26:41 <Tina-> i build everything from source on my desktop and use a bin server to install them on the netbook
Jun 13 06:29:18 <Tina-> i'm trying to rebuild some  meego my self via this git http://github.com/ramereth/moblin-overlay
Jun 13 06:30:36 <Tina-> why is the arch i586 , a atom n270 is i686 ^.^
Jun 13 06:31:04 <Stskeeps> good question :P
Jun 13 06:32:35 <Tina-> you know what the login manager is called? or is it a gdm mod?
Jun 13 06:32:55 <Tina-> seems to load faster then mine gentoo :o
Jun 13 06:35:06 <Tina-> see i moved away from rpm , dep, yum, .. long b4 they 'worked' , emerge always worked and it is amazing to see it calculating depandencies :p
Jun 13 06:36:10 <Tina-> but when i switched days where differnet lol building gentoo +X on a p3 takes like 1.5 day ^.^
Jun 13 06:37:09 <Tina-> feel free to call me insane
Jun 13 06:37:41 <Stskeeps> nah, each to his/her own
Jun 13 06:37:53 <Stskeeps> meego fullfills one purpose, gentoo another
Jun 13 06:38:03 <Tina-> true
Jun 13 06:38:19 <Tina-> doesd it run on a android?
Jun 13 06:38:33 <Tina-> does it ..
Jun 13 06:38:51 <Stskeeps> hard to say, depends on if the android device allows you to boot your own kernel and rootfs as well as having access to 3d accelerator drivers and an up-to-date kernel
Jun 13 06:38:53 <Tina-> i needs a new phone
Jun 13 06:38:54 <Stskeeps> :P
Jun 13 06:39:37 <Tina-> banshee not works on my install btw :/
Jun 13 06:40:42 <Tina-> and rhytembox errors on missing some gst-plugin to play mp3
Jun 13 06:41:02 <Tina-> rhythmbox*
Jun 13 06:41:49 <Stskeeps> open source sucks that way :P
Jun 13 06:42:00 <Tina-> ^.^
Jun 13 06:42:40 <Tina-> i likes flac
Jun 13 06:43:13 <Tina-> too big nah just buy more disks :p
Jun 13 06:49:07 <tmzt> Tina-: un on an android?
Jun 13 06:49:31 <Tina-> i dont have a fancy phone :o
Jun 13 06:49:41 <Tina-> i have a eeepc :D
Jun 13 06:49:42 <tmzt> what phone do you have?
Jun 13 06:49:44 <tmzt> oh
Jun 13 06:49:59 <tmzt> what does that have to do with android?
Jun 13 06:50:12 <Tina-> that was just a Q
Jun 13 06:51:52 <Tina-> am i so confizzeling?? O.o
Jun 13 06:55:04 <Tina-> how i kill the lowest pannel?
Jun 13 06:55:13 <Tina-> i no wants it
Jun 13 06:59:27 <anttu> could you please help me with getting telnet client to meego (laptop)
Jun 13 07:00:03 <anttu> there is no telnet command, and yum install does not find telnet or putty
Jun 13 07:05:25 <brokendatapoint> hi all, is there any chance that the Meego SDK or at least the Meego Simulator will end up as a WIN32 app/exe?
Jun 13 07:05:50 * brokendatapoint notes his long nick...
Jun 13 07:06:58 <anttu> ?
Jun 13 07:08:38 <anttu> is there some repository to add to meego to get putty or telnet installed?
Jun 13 07:08:53 <brokendatapoint> anttu: just realised that my nick is tooooo long for small screens
Jun 13 07:09:07 <brokendatapoint> anttu: why do you want telnet? why not use openssh?
Jun 13 07:09:12 <Stskeeps> brokendatapoint: i think there'll come a proper qt sdk out that will run on windows too
Jun 13 07:09:56 <anttu> i just have a router to connect with telnet, there is no ssh started on that
Jun 13 07:10:02 <brokendatapoint> Stskeeps: thanks, hate to dev on WIN but is convenient, also my Debian sys runs an Nvidia card on an ATI mobo
Jun 13 07:10:18 <Stskeeps> brokendatapoint: did you try to drop in the nvidia libGL* into the chroot?
Jun 13 07:10:23 <brokendatapoint> anttu: then install it... far more secure
Jun 13 07:10:47 <anttu> this is just a test router on my desk
Jun 13 07:10:52 <brokendatapoint> Stskeeps: no, the docs just said was for Intel- onboard only so did not but...
Jun 13 07:11:10 <Stskeeps> brokendatapoint: just because docs say one thing it doesn't mean it isn't possible to hack ;)
Jun 13 07:11:22 <brokendatapoint> anttu: if you have access to it, openssh it, can connect using Putty
Jun 13 07:11:34 <brokendatapoint> Stskeeps: fair point!
Jun 13 07:12:15 <Stskeeps> brokendatapoint: you do need an atom processor / ssse3 support hough
Jun 13 07:12:19 <brokendatapoint> Stskeeps: is there any docs for that? or are you just going off experience
Jun 13 07:12:26 <anttu> brokendatapoint: there is no putty!
Jun 13 07:12:31 <brokendatapoint> ah well, there you go
Jun 13 07:12:57 <anttu> how can i get it to meego?
Jun 13 07:13:02 <brokendatapoint> anttu: no, you would use Putty from a windows machine to connect to your server ... so long as it is *nix-based
Jun 13 07:13:25 <anttu> i would like to use my meego laptop
Jun 13 07:13:46 <anttu> do not want to touch windows machine
Jun 13 07:13:54 <brokendatapoint> anttu: so you have a laptop running Meego? which is a Linux distro...
Jun 13 07:14:22 <anttu> yes, i have a laptop running MeeGo
Jun 13 07:14:38 <anttu> and i would like to install putty to it
Jun 13 07:14:46 <anttu> where can i get it?
Jun 13 07:14:48 <brokendatapoint> why?
Jun 13 07:15:23 <anttu> oh my, brokendatapoint: to get a connection to a server
Jun 13 07:15:45 <brokendatapoint> anttu: what O/S is your server running?
Jun 13 07:16:14 <anttu> openwrt, but that does not matter here
Jun 13 07:16:58 <anttu> i know how to start ssh on the server, but i just need fast terminal access for a moment
Jun 13 07:17:55 <thiago_home> anttu: you can't get putty for Linux
Jun 13 07:17:59 <thiago_home> just open a terminal and use telnet
Jun 13 07:18:06 <brokendatapoint> anttu: just my 2 cents worth ... by the time you find a solution for Putty on Meego, it would have been quicker to install OPENSSH-SERVER and set it to run on boot, then SSH in
Jun 13 07:18:25 <thiago_home> brokendatapoint: he can't install OpenSSH on the router
Jun 13 07:18:50 <anttu> thiago_home: i have putty on my ubuntu laptop
Jun 13 07:19:06 <thiago_home> useless
Jun 13 07:19:11 <thiago_home> just use telnet and a terminal
Jun 13 07:19:19 <tmzt> thiago_home: you can get putty for X11
Jun 13 07:19:21 <anttu> thiago_home: there is no telnet on meego, that is my original problem/question here!
Jun 13 07:19:26 <brokendatapoint> anttu: what he said
Jun 13 07:19:27 <tmzt> nc -t?
Jun 13 07:19:33 <thiago_home> there should be a telnet for meego
Jun 13 07:19:36 <thiago_home> someone should package it
Jun 13 07:19:43 <anttu> i agree
Jun 13 07:20:21 <anttu> in the mean time is there e.g. some fedora repository to add to meego
Jun 13 07:20:28 <thiago_home> no
Jun 13 07:20:32 <thiago_home> there are no fedora repositories to add
Jun 13 07:21:20 <anttu> extras/devel/testing etc repos?
Jun 13 07:23:26 <tmzt> if you really need telnet just pull the binary from debian
Jun 13 07:24:01 <anttu> tmzt: how is that done?
Jun 13 07:24:12 <thiago_home> the debian one is less likely to work than the fedora one
Jun 13 07:24:20 <thiago_home> if you need it, get the sources and build it
Jun 13 07:25:33 <tmzt> anttu: ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool find telnet under there
Jun 13 07:25:53 <tmzt> get the package and ar x it, then extract data.tar.gz to a directory
Jun 13 07:26:02 <tmzt> you'll find your telnet under there
Jun 13 07:26:21 <tmzt> if it works with the meego libs, can't guarantee that
Jun 13 07:26:39 <thiago_home> which is why I said a fedora rpm is more likely to work
Jun 13 07:26:48 <thiago_home> both actions aren't recommended
Jun 13 07:27:44 <brokendatapoint> the Meego chroot archive, if i drop that ontop of a vanilla Debian Lenny server with full dev libs, should that work?
Jun 13 07:28:26 <thiago_home> it's likely to break left and right
Jun 13 07:28:55 <thiago_home> you really want to keep it chroot'ed
Jun 13 07:30:19 <brokendatapoint> thiago_home: k, thinking, might give that nvidia GL thing a go
Jun 13 07:31:25 <brokendatapoint> as a complete newb to development, will there be a steep learning curve using QT Creator?
Jun 13 07:32:04 <thiago_home> are you familiar with C++?
Jun 13 07:33:03 <brokendatapoint> no
Jun 13 07:33:33 <thiago_home> no programming experience at all?
Jun 13 07:34:01 <brokendatapoint> only web development... sigh
Jun 13 07:34:26 <thiago_home> well, functional and object-oriented programming will be something you have to learn
Jun 13 07:34:45 <thiago_home> Qt Creator is a tool only -- Qt is the library, and C++ is the language
Jun 13 07:35:00 <gour> i'm thinking about meego development, but not by using C++
Jun 13 07:35:09 <brokendatapoint> hmm, gathered that
Jun 13 07:35:11 <thiago_home> so there will be a learning curve. The question is only if it's steeper than other alternatives.
Jun 13 07:35:31 <thiago_home> OTOH, we're also readying a declarative programming alternative, which should be more familiar to you
Jun 13 07:35:33 <gour> what are alternatives?
Jun 13 07:35:43 <brokendatapoint> i want to be ale to make some applications, integrate xml feeds into mapping apps etc
Jun 13 07:35:48 <brokendatapoint> able*
Jun 13 07:35:59 <thiago_home> Qt is the only option in MeeGo API.
Jun 13 07:36:12 <thiago_home> that said, MeeGo is X11, so if you find something else that pleases you, you can use it.
Jun 13 07:36:58 <brokendatapoint> k
Jun 13 07:43:48 <digitalsurgeon> is it a good idea to package a lib and the app in same deb pacakge ?
Jun 13 07:43:59 <digitalsurgeon> or do linux ppl package libs and the app seperately ?
Jun 13 07:44:24 <thiago_home> I don't know about deb packages
Jun 13 07:44:39 <gour> in general, i'd separate the two
Jun 13 07:44:52 <thiago_home> but I'd expect that, if the lib is useful for more than one app, it should be in a separate package of its own
Jun 13 07:44:53 <gour> if the lib has general use
Jun 13 07:45:05 <thiago_home> if it's an app-specific lib, then it's packaged together with the app
Jun 13 07:45:05 <Tina-> i  run my gentoo apps in a chroot works fine with x11 ^.^
Jun 13 07:45:21 <Tina-> i has firefox + java that way :)
Jun 13 07:45:24 <gour> any news about meego under VM (vbox) ?
Jun 13 07:46:38 <thiago_home> gour: if your VM has the ability to run the binaries, it should work
Jun 13 07:46:40 <digitalsurgeon> the lib is qtflickr, i did a search in the n900 appmanager and couldn't find it
Jun 13 07:46:44 <thiago_home> that includes SSSE3 and OpenGL
Jun 13 07:47:14 <gour> thiago_home: moblin worked, but no luck with meego
Jun 13 07:47:51 <gour> thiago_home: afaik, ssse3 & opengl were mobling reqs as well...
Jun 13 07:48:08 <thiago_home> if you've got those in your VM, it should work
Jun 13 07:50:48 <RST38h> Anyone knows how I can use textures in GLES?
Jun 13 07:50:50 <gour> thiago_home: heh, check http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_1.0_Netbook_VirtualBox page & discussion
Jun 13 07:51:10 <RST38h> The approach shown in the examples on the web does not work
Jun 13 07:51:16 <brokendatapoint> thiago_home: you are Thiago Macieira from QT?
Jun 13 07:51:23 <thiago_home> brokendatapoint: Qt, yes
Jun 13 07:51:38 <brokendatapoint> ah cool, just reading the Meego Planet blog...
Jun 13 07:51:47 <brokendatapoint> ah sorry, Qt
Jun 13 07:52:00 <brokendatapoint> gour: good link, thanks
Jun 13 07:59:20 <anttu> brokendatapoint, thiago_home: i installed fedora 13 repository stuff to my meego laptop
Jun 13 07:59:34 <anttu> then just yum installed putty and it works great!
Jun 13 08:00:34 <brokendatapoint> anttu: congrats! admire your tenacity
Jun 13 08:01:15 <brokendatapoint> anttu: what hardware are you using for your Meego?
Jun 13 08:01:17 <anttu> telnet installed and works this way too
Jun 13 08:01:38 <anttu> acer aspire one
Jun 13 08:02:05 <anttu> dual boot with windows 7 and meego works ok
Jun 13 08:02:17 <brokendatapoint> cool, so what do/are you doing with Meego?
Jun 13 08:02:32 <anttu> testing :D
Jun 13 08:03:11 <brokendatapoint> i run a triple boot WinXP/Debian/FreeBSD but with ATI/Nvidia gear ... need to sort a Virtualbox type solution or else buy an older Intel Core 2 system
Jun 13 08:03:15 <anttu> i am into mobile broadband , so just wanted to see if i can get a usb 3g dongle to work on it
Jun 13 08:03:20 <brokendatapoint> anttu: 8-)
Jun 13 08:04:05 <anttu> connection manager does not quite work but i could get 3g-connected with pon
Jun 13 08:04:42 <brokendatapoint> k
Jun 13 08:04:49 <anttu> it is described here, but unfortunately in finnish only
Jun 13 08:04:53 <anttu> http://www.siptune.net/siptune.net/tiki-index.php?page=MeeGo&highlight=meego
Jun 13 08:05:56 <anttu> there is also a trick for dual boot
Jun 13 08:06:11 <anttu> it used extlinux, not grub
Jun 13 08:06:12 <digitalsurgeon> how can i get rid of this error: Packaging Error: Command 'dh_shlibdeps' failed. Output was: c:\nokiaqtsdk\maemo\4.6.2\madbin\dpkg-shlibdeps: failure: couldn't find library libqtflickr.so.0 needed by debian/easywallpapers/usr/local/bin/EasyWallpapers (its RPATH is 'C:/usr/lib'). Note: libraries are not searched in other binary packages that do not have any shlibs or symbols file. To help dpkg-shlibdeps find private libraries, you might need to set LD_LIB
Jun 13 08:06:25 <thiago_home> digitalsurgeon: you're asking the wrong channel
Jun 13 08:06:35 <digitalsurgeon> qt ?
Jun 13 08:06:38 <thiago_home> no
Jun 13 08:06:48 <thiago_home> try #maemo
Jun 13 08:08:07 <digitalsurgeon> what about the nokia qt sdk, is #maemo also the correct place to ask those q's ?
Jun 13 08:08:26 <thiago_home> maybe, otherwise try finding an SDK channel
Jun 13 08:08:37 <thiago_home> this here is not it and neither is #qt
Jun 13 08:10:04 <fqh> Has anyone ever installed meego in vmware? It's dead when I set the user and password for it, and can't boot it.
Jun 13 08:12:55 <brokendatapoint> is there any chance that Meego wil support Nvidia GPUs?
Jun 13 08:14:26 <thiago_home> brokendatapoint: yes
Jun 13 08:14:33 <thiago_home> find someone to make that work
Jun 13 08:14:50 <thiago_home> for example, I know of one company that is very interested in NVidia GPUs working
Jun 13 08:14:54 <thiago_home> they're called NVidia :-)
Jun 13 08:15:41 <brokendatapoint> thiago_home: hahahaha
Jun 13 08:16:05 <thiago_home> you just need to convince them to do some work
Jun 13 08:16:19 <thiago_home> or anyone who is going to ship a device with an NVidia GPU
Jun 13 08:16:30 <brokendatapoint> thiago_home: i'll have a crack then...
Jun 13 08:23:45 <gour> i'd only want to have meego running under VM - it would provide nice dev environment
Jun 13 08:24:05 * thiago_home wants a non-VM dev environment
Jun 13 08:24:23 <thiago_home> developing inside a VM is slow
Jun 13 08:26:34 <gour> not if you have quick machine...and definetely quickwer than under average netbook machine
Jun 13 08:27:09 <thiago_home> a VM is slower than outsid eit
Jun 13 08:27:15 <thiago_home> therefore, I want to develop outside it
Jun 13 08:28:37 <gour> does emulator provide the same experience as when runninng an app natively?
Jun 13 08:29:45 <gour> i got a feeling that running sdk & emnulator is much slower than it was my experience running moblin under vbox
Jun 13 08:30:49 <thiago_home> emulator vs device?
Jun 13 08:30:59 <thiago_home> I don't know, I'd expect mostly the same experience
Jun 13 08:31:11 <thiago_home> but personally I'd never settle for emulator only -- I'd need to test on device.
Jun 13 08:32:31 <gour> that's why i think that running under VM provided quite good experience when lacking real device...much better than sdk's emulator
Jun 13 08:34:05 <thiago_home> emulator != simulator
Jun 13 08:34:25 <thiago_home> simulator is for very quick code-and-test cycles
Jun 13 08:34:50 <thiago_home> but given the option, I'd skip the emulator and go from simulator to device
Jun 13 08:35:02 <thiago_home> in the absence of a device, emulators will have to do
Jun 13 08:35:22 <gour> i'm not sure how do you call sdk's startmeego, but it's slow...and i'm sure that running meego under VM would be way quicker
Jun 13 08:35:54 <gour> otherwise, i'm not sure how is one supposed to develop? on native device only?
Jun 13 08:36:38 <thiago_home> develop on your workstation/laptop, build native code and run on the simulator
Jun 13 08:36:49 <thiago_home> then when you're satisfied, cross-compile for the device and deploy there
Jun 13 08:37:59 <thiago_home> if the build+deploy cycle is close to local builds and as easy to use, then go for device straight on
Jun 13 08:38:09 <gour> having meego under VM would enable one to merge 1st two steps into one
Jun 13 08:38:11 <thiago_home> with Qt Creator and in the absence of a compile farm, it should be
Jun 13 08:38:26 <thiago_home> I do have a compile farm
Jun 13 08:38:34 <thiago_home> I don't want to build in a VM because it's slow
Jun 13 08:39:18 <brokendatapoint> thiago_home: so it would be possible to develop using Qt Creator on a full specced Linux then port an app to the Meego simluator?
Jun 13 08:39:33 <gour> well, i've 8G/i7, and can dedicate enough resources to VM not to be slow...much quicker than testing with simulator
Jun 13 08:39:41 <thiago_home> you shouldn't need to port
Jun 13 08:39:45 <thiago_home> it should just run on the simulator
Jun 13 08:39:52 <thiago_home> simulator = native code, pretending to be the device
Jun 13 08:40:04 <brokendatapoint> sorry, wrong word ... transfer
Jun 13 08:40:06 <thiago_home> emulator = running cross-compiled code, on a device sysroot
Jun 13 08:40:44 <thiago_home> so, of course that the simulator will give you worse experience in terms of edge cases
Jun 13 08:40:46 <RST38h> Ah, the ages old argument...
Jun 13 08:40:47 <gour> otoh, not forget i'm not speaking about writing C++...for haskell, i only need ghc & qthaskell which was running nicely under moblin
Jun 13 08:40:57 <lbt> anyone meeting up in Helsinki tonight? http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Eerikinkatu+24,%20Helsinki  at about 6pm local time
Jun 13 08:41:02 <thiago_home> the idea is just to be for quick development
Jun 13 08:41:20 <RST38h> Neither emulator nor simulator is very helpful for development though
Jun 13 08:41:21 <thiago_home> lbt: I'll look you up when I'm next in Helsinki :-)
Jun 13 08:41:33 <gour> in any case, not being able to run meego under VM is step backwards from moblin
Jun 13 08:41:39 <thiago_home> RST38h: they are helpful. Maybe not for everyone, but they have their use-cases.
Jun 13 08:41:39 <lbt> thiago_home: 1 night in 14 sadly :)
Jun 13 08:41:49 <thiago_home> RST38h: and of course they don't replace on-device testing.
Jun 13 08:42:12 <thiago_home> lbt: where are you based mostly?
Jun 13 08:42:42 <lbt> Reading, UK
Jun 13 08:43:14 <lbt> near Newbury (Vodafone HQ)
Jun 13 08:43:34 * thiago_home will be in the UK in September
Jun 13 08:43:39 <thiago_home> Nokia Developer Summit
Jun 13 08:44:06 <lbt> come over :)
Jun 13 08:44:29 <timeless> hrm, will nokia pay for nokians to go?
Jun 13 08:44:39 <thiago_home> timeless: to NDS?
Jun 13 08:44:44 <timeless> sure
Jun 13 08:44:52 <thiago_home> if you want to go somewhere, ask to go to Qt Dev Days
Jun 13 08:44:58 <thiago_home> it's a bigger event, with more presentations
Jun 13 08:45:11 <timeless> presentations aren't interesting
Jun 13 08:45:18 <timeless> people are interesting
Jun 13 08:45:43 <thiago_home> well, you choose
Jun 13 08:45:49 <timeless> i'll be on the 'isles for about a month sometime around late september, i believe
Jun 13 08:45:50 <thiago_home> I'm probably going to be in all 4 events
Jun 13 08:46:08 <thiago_home> the only one I'm skipping is Symbian Expo & Exchange
Jun 13 08:46:14 <timeless> who's covering you?
Jun 13 08:46:44 <thiago_home> Qt
Jun 13 08:46:56 <thiago_home> but that's because I'm going to be presenting in all 4 events
Jun 13 08:47:32 <thiago_home> or, rather, I know I will be presenting in 3
Jun 13 08:47:42 <gour> topics?
Jun 13 08:47:47 <thiago_home> but I am part of the organisation in MeeGo conf.
Jun 13 08:47:52 <timeless> links?
Jun 13 08:48:56 <thiago_home> the agenda isn't published yet
Jun 13 08:49:02 <thiago_home> we're going to do it this week hopefully
Jun 13 08:49:41 <thiago_home> for Dev Days. For NDS they are preparing separate native (Qt), web and design tracks
Jun 13 08:51:02 <thiago_home> for NDS I'll present a Qt overview (introductory level)
Jun 13 08:51:11 <thiago_home> for Dev Days, I'll talk about Qt on MeeGo
Jun 13 08:52:52 <gour> are all qt-supported languages welcome for meego development?
Jun 13 08:54:33 <lbt> gour: not out-of-the box
Jun 13 08:54:42 <lbt> but they may be via community support
Jun 13 08:55:35 <gour> lbt: if i want to use e.g. qthaskell, it means qt will be there, i've to provide for qthaskell bindings only, right?
Jun 13 08:55:55 <lbt> and haskell
Jun 13 08:56:24 <lbt> I don't think that's in core MeeGo :)
Jun 13 08:57:18 <gour> of course, haskell or ghc runtime
Jun 13 08:57:26 <timeless> is there QtLogo?
Jun 13 08:57:30 <RST38h> Who knows, it may well happen that Nokia decides on haskell as the language for MeeGo scripting
Jun 13 08:57:33 <lbt> well, best to be clear
Jun 13 08:57:47 * lbt is pushing erlang at the minute
Jun 13 08:58:12 <RST38h> And then we will all be writing in haskell while python people bitch at tmo for being abandined
Jun 13 08:58:13 <gour> RST38h: too good to be true...otoh, haskell is not, imho, for scripting only ;)
Jun 13 09:01:14 <gour> in any case, considering we do not want to play with apple, nor like java (which rules out android), meego looks as the only mobile platform forth to develop for
Jun 13 09:05:58 <amol12> hi all , i have created netbook kvm image.but after running #kvm -m 512 -boot c -hda meego-1.0.80-meego-preview-netbook-core-201006081824-raw/meego-1.0.80-meego-preview-netbook-core-201006081824-sda.raw i am not getting any GUI
Jun 13 09:06:04 <amol12> or meego OS
Jun 13 17:24:44 <LinDon> hello how can i add an link to thunderbird?
Jun 13 17:26:55 <LinDon> how can i set thunderbird to open when i click on mail?
Jun 14 01:13:55 <g00fy> hmmm, there is not much going on here ^^
Jun 14 02:11:21 <byang> hi?
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