**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jun 15 02:59:57 2010 Jun 15 03:43:47 hi y'all, just trawling the Meego site, anyone heard of any Connected TV project that uses or plans to use Meego? Jun 15 03:57:38 is Mike Shaver the Webmaster for the Meego web portal? Jun 15 04:00:14 Mike is currently the webmaster Jun 15 04:01:14 ah hi Dawn, thanks for the reply, have some IE8 feedback for him Jun 15 04:01:40 oh good, thanks Jun 15 04:01:48 i emailed you yesterday but nice to see you on irc Jun 15 04:02:13 ah, I'm way behind on email. Jun 15 04:03:13 haha, d'accord! i dislike it personally, SMS/Chat are the go Jun 15 04:03:16 oops Jun 15 04:03:53 I was focused on May community metrics all day - it only took me until the 14th of June to finish them :) Jun 15 04:04:10 I had to shut off email / IRC all day to finish Jun 15 04:04:22 haha, guess given your current Meego taskings and your other Intel stuff ... you must be busy! Jun 15 04:05:30 yeah - I've been swamped with forum posts after the netbook release on the 26th - lots of new users trying it Jun 15 04:07:01 ok, just read your email. If you're available tomorrow (15th) - maybe your today? at 14:00 UTC for the community office meeting? Jun 15 04:07:29 http://wiki.meego.com/Community_Office/Meetings Jun 15 04:08:01 hmm am checking UTC time now, btw what email address for Mike Shaver, cannot email him from his user profile nor can I see a webmaster link anywhere Jun 15 04:08:12 thanks for link, will check now Jun 15 04:08:32 we could also use help answering forum questions: I've been trying to gather unanswered questions here: http://wiki.meego.com/Netbook_Forum_Triage Jun 15 04:08:51 actually, can you post your feedback in the forum for IE8? Jun 15 04:09:06 http://forum.meego.com/forumdisplay.php?f=5 Jun 15 04:09:22 that way others can chime in with similar issues Jun 15 04:11:35 brokendatapoint: ok, gotta run, but we can chat more tomorrow (my time) :) Jun 15 04:13:03 DawnFoster: hi, is brokendatapoint, that forum triage sounds good, will post the IE8 feedback in the forum ... irssi crashed took out SSH session Jun 15 04:14:16 DawnFoster: ah just checked, your Tuesday June 15th 1400 is my Wednesday 0200, sorry will be asleep Jun 15 04:14:57 oh, not a problem - you can check out the minutes later & look at some task lists Jun 15 04:15:14 k cheers Jun 15 04:15:22 it's not a great time for Asia, New Zealand, Australia, etc. Jun 15 04:15:25 later Jun 15 04:15:42 no is not, see ya Jun 15 05:10:32 DawnFoster: sorry to bother you ... quick question re forum triage Jun 15 05:10:41 sure Jun 15 05:10:59 but after this question, it's my bedtime :) Jun 15 05:11:04 (Portland, OR) Jun 15 05:12:06 once i have an answer, may i reply to the orignal question asker? Jun 15 05:12:15 and then how do i/we consider it closed? Jun 15 05:15:00 yeah, go ahead and reply to the person and remove it from the wiki page. Jun 15 05:15:16 ok thanks, cheers Jun 15 05:15:41 you're late up :) Jun 15 05:15:42 have a good day, and thanks for helping out! Jun 15 05:15:50 * Stskeeps starts day shift Jun 15 05:16:09 Stskeeps: yep, but not for long. Zzzzzzzzz Jun 15 05:16:31 cya Jun 15 05:17:01 ttyl Jun 15 05:54:41 anyone Meego hardware geeks/devs online now? Jun 15 06:45:35 hey guys. can someone tell me the status of wifi on the u100? i keep seeing lots of different posts (including this one http://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=283) but im a bit of a nub and cant actually tell... can i use my wifi yet? XD Jun 15 07:31:56 morning all Jun 15 07:34:43 morning slaine Jun 15 07:34:59 morning sivang Jun 15 07:39:46 morn slaine Jun 15 08:27:33 can anyone recommend a netbook with a Pinetrail processor that works under meego ? Jun 15 08:57:36 is it just me or SSO still does not work on wiki.meego.com ? Jun 15 08:58:02 log in from meego.com first Jun 15 08:58:35 I am logged in Jun 15 08:58:46 meego.com is okay... but when I go to the wiki Jun 15 08:58:54 I have both log in and log out Jun 15 08:59:01 (and am treated as not logged in) Jun 15 09:01:21 though... www.maemo.org seems down, which might be part of the puzzle Jun 15 09:35:07 Hello. I need an information how to stop X server on MeeGo 1.0 (I'm using VirtualBox and X trying to start very offten). Jun 15 09:37:18 alexo: either kill the process or stop it from beeing executed in the first place Jun 15 09:46:07 That, Jun 15 09:46:43 or time travel back to 1984 and kill Bob Scheifler and Jim Gettys Jun 15 09:55:20 lbt: I thought I said short :) Jun 15 09:55:29 err... Jun 15 09:55:33 that *is* short Jun 15 09:55:40 OK, thorough Jun 15 09:56:03 Now I'll spend the rest of the week reading that :D Jun 15 09:56:12 sorry... Jun 15 09:56:30 I just felt it was a bit sensitive and I can be too blunt sometimes Jun 15 09:56:42 oh, well, at least I get to make a summary of it Jun 15 09:58:06 nah, just say "yes David" Jun 15 09:59:06 "these are not the droids you are looking for" Jun 15 10:00:21 moin all Jun 15 10:01:22 could someone advise where i can find penge for moblin-panel-datetime please? Jun 15 10:02:49 never mind found it in myzone :) Jun 15 10:05:19 lbt, Is Stskeeps driving you to distraction already ? Jun 15 10:05:49 heh... Jun 15 10:06:06 * Stskeeps is far away from lbt atm Jun 15 10:14:03 talk about distancing yourself ;) Jun 15 11:12:57 Sage: are you with Carsten ? Jun 15 11:23:15 fabo, I would say so Jun 15 11:44:21 fabo: yes, but not long (read 3min) :) Jun 15 12:07:40 Could someone tell me how to configure zypper to work behind proxy? I've already added PROXY_ENABLED and HTTP[S]_PROXY to /etc/sysconfig/proxy but it doesn't help. Jun 15 12:10:45 yum and zypper output: Illegal instruction (core dumped). I tried to read coredump with gdb/bcaktrace, but it doesn't contain any readable information. BTW, I'm using VirtualBox and MeeGo 1.0 Netbook image. Jun 15 13:00:42 hi. I'm having a hard time trying to find out how to make a key open the myzone panel, could anybody help me? Jun 15 13:04:39 should be the Super key (aka the Windows key) Jun 15 13:07:22 the super key is mapped to open the toolbar. I want to open myzone with a special key on my netbook Jun 15 13:23:58 lbt: ping Jun 15 13:56:19 quick reminder that some of us are meeting in #meego-meeting in 5 minutes for the Community Office meeting: http://wiki.meego.com/Community_Office/Meetings Jun 15 13:56:20 Anyone who wants to work on community tasks can join. Jun 15 13:57:06 DawnFoster, also anyone remotely interested in knowing the goings on of the community office can join! Jun 15 13:57:27 For those interested in SELinux + Meego: http://www.zimmerle.org/?p=138 (my blog is not in MeeGo planet yet) Jun 15 13:57:28 * lcuk2 considers adding a proposal for MeeGo drinking game Jun 15 13:57:29 lcuk2 - sure. The meetings are focused on putting people to work, though :) Jun 15 13:57:59 everytime someone mentions rpm/deb we drink. or when normal x86 vs atom, again drink! Jun 15 13:58:24 lcuk2: you will need a ambulance :) Jun 15 13:58:26 * pupnik goes for more appejuice Jun 15 13:58:32 :D Jun 15 13:58:48 zimmerle, come up with better rules then! Jun 15 13:58:51 or a bucket Jun 15 13:59:01 thats a fine idea pupnik Jun 15 13:59:38 lcuk2: it looks fine to me :) we just need an ambulance :P Jun 15 13:59:53 :D Jun 15 14:11:30 meego with X on qemu? http://forum.meego.com/showpost.php?p=3154&postcount=65 Jun 15 14:14:03 http://www.neopeek.com/en/stories/meego/ Jun 15 14:14:13 link to qemu image is broken Jun 15 14:20:33 sivang, please try to keep general discussion in here rather than in the meeting room. General discussion adds to meeting clutter and clutters up the meeting log. Jun 15 14:22:13 Termana: oh okay, sorry Jun 15 14:28:18 aha meego with ubuntu kernel is here: http://cross-lfs.org/~cosmo/meego/ Jun 15 14:33:18 jei Jun 15 14:37:49 has anyone tested it? Jun 15 14:39:03 but really nice thing.. Jun 15 14:40:41 i would prefer to run it in virtualbox or qemu Jun 15 14:40:49 put the whole image on a usb stick Jun 15 15:02:17 hi there, we just had the Communtiy Office meeting. Question Jun 15 15:02:35 does anybody want to help kicking off this task at http://wiki.meego.com/Community_Office#Proposed_Tasks:_not_committed_yet Jun 15 15:02:53 "Agreement on 'Should meego.com offer a bug tracker tool to open source community projects?'" Jun 15 15:03:20 It's really about kicking the discussion and push it until we have a decision: basically yes or no, why and how Jun 15 15:03:56 a post to the meego-community list to get started is enough Jun 15 15:04:17 hey qgil_ :) Jun 15 15:04:19 if you are a Maemo developer using http://bugs.maemo.org you know what I'm talking about Jun 15 15:04:28 qgil_: there are bunch of project hosting services that provide a VCS and a bug tracker... but if we want to push projects to gitorious, then bugzilla might be a good offering Jun 15 15:04:56 bergie: this is related to the QA community process for MeeGo Extras apps Jun 15 15:05:12 maybe that is the discussion we should start first, though Jun 15 15:05:47 meaning, if you have bloquer bugs then you don't make it to Extras, or can be pulled down to Extras-testing (or whatever final names are decided) Jun 15 15:05:55 this assumes a common bug tracker like Debian and others have Jun 15 15:06:11 but maybe there are better ways to do it than what we have done in maemo.org? Jun 15 15:07:27 I think most people with open source projects, even extras type projects, like to have their own bug trackers and other infrastructure. Jun 15 15:08:04 DawnFoster: sure, the question is: are we going to have meego.com community repos? and if so, how is the quality of those apps surveilled? Jun 15 15:08:17 repos are different Jun 15 15:08:32 and that's already an established project Jun 15 15:08:42 qgil_: applications should at least provide a link to their bug tracker (like we do in Maemo Extras) Jun 15 15:08:46 I have posted links to the meeting minutes on the mailing list, under the meeting thread :) Jun 15 15:08:47 in the comunity repos you have community apps, what is the QA process for these community apps? Jun 15 15:09:26 as said, I'm not pushing for a solution - I'm only aying we need one - and sooner than later Jun 15 15:09:28 qgil_: We have a team of people under Tero already working on that project Jun 15 15:09:35 imo bugs.maemo.org is great for maemo specific oss projects, i imagine the same can be true for 'meego specific objects' Jun 15 15:10:09 and while larger projects might have their own bugtracker and other infra, some dont, and bugs.maemo.org worked out fine for me instead of having to wrestle with setting up my own system Jun 15 15:10:14 and it's already a community task Jun 15 15:10:15 qgil_: in general I think the Extras QA process works well... of course it could be tuned Jun 15 15:10:23 oops, I mean committed task Jun 15 15:12:23 DawnFoster: sure, but that is a mega-task and not even I am sure Tero has the QA process definition in his mind (and we had a chat about this this morning) :) Jun 15 15:12:33 qgil_: heya Jun 15 15:12:51 Right, but starting something separate from that effort doesn't make sense Jun 15 15:12:52 but you're right, the bug tracker thing is just a consequence of the QA process, so the QA process needs to be defined first Jun 15 15:13:23 the community repos are waiting for servers, but we don't need servers to start defining the QA process Jun 15 15:13:38 Hopefully, Tero can assign someone from his team to figure out the QA piece Jun 15 15:13:47 publicly :) Jun 15 15:14:05 I'll talk to him Jun 15 15:14:08 My point is that Tero is leading this effort and we don't need to be mucking it up :) Jun 15 15:14:31 ok, time to go Jun 15 15:14:33 this is orthogonal: there are project leads and there are project tasks Jun 15 15:15:14 right, but the project leader gets to assign people to the tasks Jun 15 15:15:15 I don't try to step in Tero's toes, I'm just lobbying for a specific subtask to be defined since there are no symptoms of movement and this is something someone can start and get involved Jun 15 15:15:53 well... there are tasks and tasks, starting a discussion is not something you need to be authorized for (at least as I see it) Jun 15 15:16:22 We can highlight the importance of a task, but we should let the existing team coordinate the tasks in the project Jun 15 15:17:03 I guess the good and efficient approach is something between a tree and a net :) Jun 15 15:17:13 i share qgil_'s desire to see things happen soon Jun 15 15:17:33 pupnik: agreed Jun 15 15:17:51 and there are some elements of a community effort that are de-rigeur Jun 15 15:17:54 however, we can do this in a way that keeps the right people working together on a project Jun 15 15:17:58 many would say that a bugtracker is one Jun 15 15:18:39 i understand Jun 15 15:18:44 I'm just saying that we should start be encouraging the project team that is already working on this effort to add it as a task to their project Jun 15 15:18:59 DawnFoster: understood Jun 15 15:21:16 There is only an indirect reference to QA community process at http://wiki.meego.com/Proposal_for_Community_Application_Support - if you want to help contact Tero (through the meego-community list, for instance) :) Jun 15 15:22:26 have a nice day, bye! Jun 15 15:22:27 DawnFoster, By the way, I'm not sure if you saw this - who is the person I would need to inform about the GNOME Developer Training at GUADEC in Intel, I think it's something a few people might be interested in Jun 15 15:22:47 DawnFoster, http://guadec.org/index.php/guadec/2010/schedConf/training Jun 15 15:23:05 You could post it to the meego-community list? Jun 15 15:24:27 OK Jun 15 15:27:56 missed the community meeting ... hospital appt :( Jun 15 15:29:01 mm, train ride here Jun 15 15:51:21 hi! is there any default e-book reader for meego? Jun 15 15:53:24 Stskeeps: o/ Jun 15 15:53:29 moo Jun 15 15:53:44 Stskeeps: /topic ... 9 June? Jun 15 17:22:12 Open Letter/Proposal to allow Maemo on the MeeGo Community OBS : http://lists.meego.com/pipermail/meego-community/2010-June/001041.html Jun 15 17:34:45 hi all, Jun 15 17:34:48 moo Jun 15 17:38:34 =/ hi Jun 15 17:39:25 lbt, eloquent as usual. Jun 15 17:39:47 moo slaine Jun 15 17:39:59 yes, I'm still here :( Jun 15 17:40:06 at wrk? Jun 15 17:40:08 (where here == work) Jun 15 17:40:13 ah Jun 15 17:40:33 i'm just happy i'm doing absolutely nothing atm :P Jun 15 17:41:12 been banging my head off our new netboot infra all day Jun 15 17:41:30 what are you basing it on? Jun 15 17:41:41 custom distro Jun 15 17:42:00 issue was with the dhcp configs that are autogenerated by a web ui Jun 15 17:42:07 ah Jun 15 17:42:19 then my image was turning on networking during the boot and hosing things, d'oh Jun 15 17:43:10 heh, like nfs booting and then a connection management daemon turns on.. Jun 15 17:43:17 yup Jun 15 17:43:20 same thing Jun 15 17:43:40 the / is nfs mounted, kernel gotten via pxe Jun 15 17:44:04 Though that was just the last bug, the other stuff was what took up the time Jun 15 17:44:06 "nfs server a.b.c.d not answering.." Jun 15 17:45:01 to add insult to injury, the coffee machine broke Jun 15 17:45:04 ow Jun 15 17:45:05 :P Jun 15 17:45:07 Think I fixed it though Jun 15 17:45:08 did it boot off nfs? ;) Jun 15 17:45:12 lolk Jun 15 17:45:20 s/lolk/lol/ Jun 15 17:45:20 slaine meant: lol Jun 15 17:45:28 * slaine pats infobot Jun 15 17:47:41 is there a community repo with software not part of the core? Jun 15 17:47:51 not yet Jun 15 17:49:41 ic, hope i can help when it gets created.. Jun 15 17:52:30 Stskeeps: is there an eta on that setup yet ? Jun 15 17:52:39 or has it all been moved to new servers ? Jun 15 17:52:47 iirc, it was all setup on the maemo obs servers Jun 15 17:53:33 it was set up initially on maemo obs to get started early i believe Jun 15 17:53:56 hey slaine and Stskeeps Jun 15 17:54:07 cos hardware takes time to arrive Jun 15 17:54:27 Yeah, I hoped I'd get access to test Jun 15 17:54:40 how and ever, I've had no time over the last couple of months Jun 15 17:54:46 CosmoHill: hey Jun 15 17:58:35 * CosmoHill noms dinner Jun 15 18:15:23 hey i didnt realize that installing meego would replace grub and i lost my option to boot ubuntu is there a way i can fix that in meego? Jun 15 18:15:48 erm Jun 15 18:16:07 did you manually partition the drive ? Jun 15 18:16:36 I think the best way would be to boot ubuntu via syslinux boot loader Jun 15 18:17:03 since I'm pretty sure ubuntu would be ext4 but meego doesn't support that Jun 15 18:17:29 yes i did manually partition and yes ubuntu is ext 4 Jun 15 18:18:09 syslinux bootloader? i gotta create a live image or something? Jun 15 18:18:14 no no Jun 15 18:18:24 syslinux is the default boot loader installed by meego Jun 15 18:18:26 s/default/only/ Jun 15 18:18:27 CosmoHill meant: syslinux is the only boot loader installed by meego Jun 15 18:18:32 yay I got infobot to work Jun 15 18:18:47 o ok Jun 15 18:19:01 how do i go aboout doin that? Jun 15 18:19:05 @all, someone is having problems to install any package using gpk-install-local-file ? Jun 15 18:22:25 when i boot up i can get into the meego bootloader but theres no option for ubuntu there either Jun 15 18:22:33 n0greenfx: I'll grab my laptop and see if I can boot RHEL from ubuntu's default boot laoder Jun 15 18:22:38 s/ubuntu/meego/ Jun 15 18:22:38 CosmoHill meant: n0greenfx: I'll grab my laptop and see if I can boot RHEL from meego's default boot laoder Jun 15 18:23:10 ok Jun 15 18:25:39 okay plan me Jun 15 18:25:43 grab your ubuntu CD Jun 15 18:26:12 i dont have one im on a netbook and have been unable to get a live usb working Jun 15 18:26:43 how did you get it on there in the first place? Jun 15 18:27:22 i install meego using a live usb but now im stuck in meego and any image i have dd'ed to the usb wont boot Jun 15 18:27:37 ib tried a grub rescue image debian and ubuntu Jun 15 18:28:29 can you get into grub? Jun 15 18:28:41 nope Jun 15 18:28:48 just the defualt meego loader Jun 15 18:29:12 could you make a grub usb image? Jun 15 18:29:39 i dd'ed the grub.img over to a usb and it wont boot Jun 15 18:31:53 hmm Jun 15 18:32:15 ill try again Jun 15 18:32:28 gona dd'ed superbrug.img Jun 15 18:35:59 I'm pretty used to command line grub and grub 2 Jun 15 18:37:56 grub2 is nice to have on a usb, as it can read iso files Jun 15 18:51:10 chaps sorry to bother you all, but anyone able to confirm what provides QtMessagingFramework? Jun 15 18:51:44 im trying to build MeeGo on openSUSE and am having issues locating that module Jun 15 18:57:32 FunkyPenguin: do you mean 'where is QMF as a project' or 'where is the MeeGo RPM for it'? Jun 15 18:59:31 w00t_, heh i was looking for the srpm/tarball but i found it Jun 15 18:59:40 ok, good Jun 15 19:00:05 i was looking for qtmessagingframework, but it was hiding in plain sight as messagingframework :) Jun 15 19:16:28 i must have calmed down a bit, none of my posts are on this months metrics's 'mailing list topics (number of posts)' list :) Jun 15 19:18:31 * w00t_ goes to read Jun 15 19:19:06 Sage: you're rank 21 of top participants of bugzilla, good job :) Jun 15 19:19:17 I am? :) Jun 15 19:19:32 where did you find that kind of information? Jun 15 19:19:33 wiki.meego.com/Metrics Jun 15 19:20:53 meego-sdk really is a flop Jun 15 19:20:54 :P Jun 15 19:20:56 Would be nice is #meego-arm would be taken into account in that IRC analysis. Is that channel official btw? Jun 15 19:20:57 (the ML) Jun 15 19:21:20 Sage: i think we'll start with more specialized irc analysis over the summer i guess Jun 15 19:21:28 * satmd sees a w00t_ and a sts and things are good Jun 15 19:21:35 also, when everything's on a proper server.. Jun 15 19:21:40 hi there ;) Jun 15 19:21:49 * w00t_ wants to generate stats more often, too Jun 15 19:21:53 fair enough Jun 15 19:22:01 (graphs! goodies! oh my..) Jun 15 19:23:04 not much git/bugzilla participants :) Jun 15 19:23:27 Or did they cut the list at random 22&21 point? :) Jun 15 19:23:27 wow, #17 Jun 15 19:23:30 I need to talk more Jun 15 19:25:34 yes Jun 15 19:25:40 :p Jun 15 19:26:37 lo satmd Jun 15 19:26:38 how's things Jun 15 19:27:20 fine Jun 15 19:27:25 I'm still living Jun 15 19:27:29 even after the debacle Jun 15 19:27:30 :D Jun 15 19:27:38 did unrealircd die yet? Jun 15 19:27:39 :P Jun 15 19:27:46 debacle..? what happened :P Jun 15 19:27:47 (please say yes) Jun 15 19:27:53 no, but the whole world is using my post for reference Jun 15 19:28:01 oh, that one.. Jun 15 19:28:02 :P Jun 15 19:28:27 url? Jun 15 19:28:27 :P Jun 15 19:28:33 Stskeeps: last release april 09 Jun 15 19:28:39 but a 3.2.9 is planned Jun 15 19:28:43 url? Jun 15 19:28:55 to your post Jun 15 19:28:57 presumably. Jun 15 19:29:22 google for 752e46f2d873c1679fa99de3f52a274d Jun 15 19:29:59 e.g. http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/IRC-server-had-backdoor-in-source-code-for-months-Update-1020987.html directly references my forum post Jun 15 19:30:30 hehe Jun 15 19:30:45 lovely mess Jun 15 19:30:51 phew, noted as former developer Jun 15 19:31:09 well, I was promoted, too Jun 15 19:31:10 lol Jun 15 19:31:17 at least for the media Jun 15 19:31:19 :) Jun 15 19:31:42 * satmd still wants to know *how* the intrusion worked Jun 15 19:32:04 well, we can start with the suspicious looking sudo commands in the php Jun 15 19:32:45 *G* Jun 15 19:33:05 thus, in a word: probably somehow related to the glorious former web developer Jun 15 19:33:15 haha Jun 15 19:33:33 anyway, off topic here :P Jun 15 19:33:38 :p Jun 15 19:33:42 Stskeeps: oh come on Jun 15 19:33:46 we'll survive it :p Jun 15 19:33:50 it's hardly like this channel is hopping with activity atm. :p Jun 15 19:34:15 * Stskeeps goes make sure his linkedin.com profile doesn't say he's still working on unrealircd.. Jun 15 19:34:19 w00t_: still... we don't know more than I currently do - except syzop Jun 15 19:34:25 lol. Jun 15 19:34:43 * satmd stopped participation after m_dnsbl Jun 15 19:34:56 but someone *had* to make it public Jun 15 19:34:58 :p Jun 15 19:35:08 * w00t_ shrugs Jun 15 19:35:09 not just our forum Jun 15 19:35:28 * satmd didn't think irc-sec reader would republish it Jun 15 19:35:29 :p Jun 15 19:35:33 +s Jun 15 19:36:07 * w00t_ is still happy to be doing other things Jun 15 19:36:13 :P Jun 15 19:36:20 oh, insp reached 2.0 Jun 15 19:36:25 and I switched Jun 15 19:36:28 :p Jun 15 19:36:33 * Stskeeps wonders if it actually gets dark in finland Jun 15 19:36:37 lol Jun 15 19:36:41 satmd: did it explode? Jun 15 19:36:44 ok ok, I shut up Jun 15 19:36:47 Stskeeps: depends how far north you are Jun 15 19:36:48 not yet :P Jun 15 19:36:53 I'd guess. Jun 15 19:37:20 minor bugs and desync of chanmodes Jun 15 19:37:24 but well... fine Jun 15 19:38:02 Stskeeps, you wandered away from project in december 2008! Jun 15 19:38:31 ah, good Jun 15 19:38:35 :) Jun 15 19:38:42 syzop said he would push 3.2.8 soon after Jun 15 19:38:50 and its 3.2.8.1 thats got prob Jun 15 19:39:01 * w00t_ stares Jun 15 19:39:10 at who? Jun 15 19:39:13 another irc nut amongst us? Jun 15 19:39:17 :D Jun 15 19:39:46 Stskeeps, fyi, it was 2:06pm lol Jun 15 19:46:00 anybody knows why one needs a machine with a intel cpu to run the meego sdk ? Jun 15 19:46:22 melmoth: meego netbook sdk, fwiw, but cos the chroot is compiled towards ssse3 Jun 15 19:47:44 is there a way to get the sources, and compile it for an amd box ? Jun 15 19:48:40 * satmd carefully asks about the state of meego for "not so active anymore" devs (of other software) Jun 15 19:49:37 melmoth: all the src.rpms are on the repo server, you can rebuild them for any architecture Jun 15 19:50:25 sounds good. (i m just wondering why they only ship binary for a given cpu model). Jun 15 19:51:00 several reasons. most importantly that is because they are the platforms that are supported. Jun 15 19:51:57 do you have the url where i can get the src rpm by any chances ? Jun 15 19:52:54 repo.meego.com has them Jun 15 19:53:07 that's it Jun 15 19:53:25 thanks Jun 15 19:53:52 prjconf for OBS is on gitorious Jun 15 19:54:02 have fun Jun 15 19:54:57 * melmoth is lost Jun 15 19:55:25 * satmd finds melmoth :) Jun 15 19:55:35 draft CFP for the meego conference published, http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_Conference_2010/DraftCFP Jun 15 20:03:03 hrm, we're really missing QA mention there Jun 15 20:10:04 Stskeeps: funny how know matter how long you look at something, you always realize what you missed a few minutes after you send it to someone else :) Jun 15 20:10:46 yeah Jun 15 20:17:14 ok folks Jun 15 20:17:30 been here for close to 14 hours Jun 15 20:17:30 time to go home? ;) Jun 15 20:17:34 time to go Jun 15 20:17:40 catch you all tomorrow Jun 15 21:05:17 nite all, sweet dreams Jun 15 21:21:11  Jun 15 22:13:10 I hope meego will become competitor to iPhone & Android Jun 15 22:16:04 we allow users to tinker with the code and use the bluetooth for bluetooth thingies Jun 15 22:16:12 we're already better than the iPhone Jun 15 22:17:07 one word: multi-tasking Jun 15 22:17:17 real, multi-tasking Jun 15 22:17:55 you mean like my phone does? Jun 15 22:25:46 CosmoHill, do You work for meego ? Jun 15 22:25:56 nope Jun 15 22:26:06 As a student I avoid work Jun 15 22:26:14 what do you mean "we are better than ... " Jun 15 22:26:36 Android is the leading phone os currently Jun 15 22:27:00 figure of speach Jun 15 22:27:57 and .. Apple is still one of the leading software companies Jun 15 22:29:51 * auke hires cosmohill Jun 15 22:30:02 hurrar Jun 15 22:30:18 I have reqs. apply! Jun 15 22:30:29 must live in oregon though :) Jun 15 22:30:57 it's a good place to live. ;) Jun 15 22:31:24 Oregon? doesn't sound in england Jun 15 22:31:59 Oregon is just like england … only different :) Jun 15 22:32:01 Pacific NW - US Jun 15 22:35:51 oregon, the netherlands, same precipitation, same average temperatures.... Jun 15 22:36:00 but soooo much nicer here :) Jun 15 22:38:16 well driving lisence and visa won't be an issue Jun 15 22:39:21 actually, when I moved from the netherlands, I had to take my driving exam here again (lmao) Jun 15 22:39:33 where are you no? Jun 15 22:39:36 now* Jun 15 22:40:07 OR Jun 15 22:40:12 in the office Jun 15 22:40:37 ah okay i got confused Jun 15 22:41:58 it was a funny ordeal too. I had to take my theory test first, which was hilareous of course, nothing like the dutch theory exam which was written by the most vile and sadistic instructor ever. Jun 15 22:42:34 also, when I took my driving exam, the person taking the driving exam was unaware that I had 10+years of driving experience in europe. Jun 15 22:44:31 where did you move from ... to Oregon Jun 15 22:44:51 auke, Are You from Amsterdam Jun 15 22:46:11 USA driving test is easy compared to european ones .. I have heard the same thing Jun 15 22:46:55 I've lived in several places in the the Netherlands: where I grew up near Alkmaar. When I studied I lived in Amsterdam. I worked and lived near Rotterdam before I moved to Oregon 5 years ago Jun 15 22:47:44 I have a UK driving lisence so I should be okay to drive in the netherlands Jun 15 22:47:46 we visited Amsterdam ... about 4 years ago .. for 2 weeks .. Jun 15 22:47:59 dutch driving exam requirements are the worst ever. Jun 15 22:47:59 my car on the other hand >.> Jun 15 22:48:41 70 theoretical questions and you're only allowed 3 mistakes I think Jun 15 22:48:47 ouch Jun 15 22:48:57 between my theory and pratical test the theoy changed Jun 15 22:49:14 so my friend took his test a year or so after me and it was different Jun 15 22:49:21 iirc I got 33 out of 35 Jun 15 22:49:30 I aced mine originally, but I still think they're way too hard. perhaps they changed since 1991... :) Jun 15 22:51:43 I took my pratical a week before xmas 2007 :) Jun 15 22:52:41 auke, do you like USA ... I mean ... Holland is statistically a better place to live .. Netherlands has higher quality of living Jun 15 22:59:23 besides .. there is several places named "Oregon" in USA .. Jun 15 23:00:05 my dog is named Oregon Jun 15 23:00:13 and my daughter Jun 15 23:01:04 tripzero: that must get confusing... ;) Jun 15 23:01:29 only for my daughter Jun 15 23:01:42 :P Jun 15 23:02:07 heh Jun 15 23:02:19 who came first? Jun 15 23:02:37 Martiini: as far as I'm aware, there's only one "Oregon" in the USA, and it's the state - do you know of more? Jun 15 23:02:40 we aren't sure Jun 15 23:03:35 jausmus, well, there is a trail Jun 15 23:03:50 true Jun 15 23:03:51 which is a place that extends outside of the state Jun 15 23:03:51 and a city Jun 15 23:04:00 which doesn't extend out of the state Jun 15 23:04:04 ;) Jun 15 23:04:42 however, to be pedantic, their names aren't "Oregon", they are "The Oregon Trail", and "Oregon City", respectively Jun 15 23:04:56 haha Jun 15 23:04:58 true Jun 15 23:09:47 Martiini: I love several things about Oregon. For instance, the fact that my wife and 2 kids live here too. :) Jun 15 23:10:33 oregon, IL, oregon in, oregon, wi .. what google gives Jun 15 23:11:18 + there is like .. 5-6 places named "London" in USA, CAnada Jun 15 23:12:31 Martiini: when people say "Paris", do you not assume "France"? Jun 15 23:13:22 * auke goes $HOME Jun 15 23:13:24 Hi all. Is mounting (manual or auto) of SD memory cards a know issue in Meego? I haven't found anything in bugzilla or the forums. Meego 1.0 running on an Acer Aspire model ZG5. Jun 15 23:14:24 I've tried the SD card in both SD card slots with no luck. There doesn't appear to be anything happening when I add/remove the card. Works fine in other systems. Jun 15 23:15:13 can I run meego on my iPhone now that it has working linux kernel ? Jun 15 23:16:21 SamuraiMark: are you using known working kernel? Jun 15 23:16:23 Belay that ... just found bug 2931. Jun 15 23:16:31 * TSCHAKeee2 smacks forehead Jun 15 23:16:38 " Bug 2931 - Right Hand Side Card Reader of Acer Aspire One A150 and A110 ( ZG5 ) only works when card is inserted before boot " Jun 15 23:18:03 SamuraiMark: so you are using some 'official' builds ? Jun 15 23:18:39 dcordes: yes, V1.0. Jun 15 23:19:18 Well there you are. Just like the bug says. Reboot with the card in the right hand card slot and now I can see the card. Jun 15 23:21:42 how is non-root X a feature ? Jun 15 23:22:13 it's more security than a feature Jun 15 23:22:43 hey Tscheesy Jun 15 23:22:45 apparently you get an error message and will be able to get X back again Jun 15 23:22:46 erm Jun 15 23:23:09 TSCHAKeee2: * Jun 15 23:23:23 :P Jun 15 23:24:01 dcordes: , as I understand non-root X will become a standard Jun 15 23:27:55 cyas **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Jun 16 02:59:56 2010