**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jun 17 02:59:57 2010 Jun 17 06:25:05 lbt X-Fade Stskeeps here? Jun 17 06:25:21 sure. Jun 17 07:10:41 anybody know why I can't install cross-armv7l-gcc into a meego-sdk-0524 chroot? Jun 17 07:11:09 it complains about libgomp being too new by a couple of fractions Jun 17 07:14:31 hmm, grab the one from 1.0 repo? Jun 17 07:15:10 oh, are the chroot's repos set to something else? Jun 17 07:25:31 nah... the cross gcc at 4.4.2-2.3 lags behing gcc which in turn is in sync with libgomp, both at 4.4.2-12.13 Jun 17 07:25:40 suspiciously similar versions :p Jun 17 07:25:47 poke dl9pf_ Jun 17 07:25:50 I wonder if it will asplode if I just force it Jun 17 07:44:07 can someone assist...what is the passwd for root in meego...I cannot sudo su and key in meego Jun 17 07:44:16 meego, probably Jun 17 07:44:27 Stskeeps, doesnt work... Jun 17 07:44:35 I installed from USB stcik Jun 17 07:45:11 su, not sudo su Jun 17 07:46:15 Stskeeps, doesnt work as well Jun 17 07:46:21 hm, ok Jun 17 07:46:32 any ideas? Jun 17 07:47:42 meego use grub as bootloader? just boot with init=/bin/sh in kernel command line, remount your fs in read-write and change your root password Jun 17 07:47:45 :) Jun 17 07:48:13 nextime, haha...I edited the grub line and put in "single" at the end of the stanza Jun 17 07:48:17 changed the passwd Jun 17 07:48:39 nextime, thank you much for your reply Jun 17 07:48:53 Morning, all Jun 17 07:49:13 Jaffa, :) Jun 17 07:50:58 morn jaffa Jun 17 08:08:49 morn slaine Jun 17 08:15:00 morn Stskeeps Jun 17 08:15:08 you back home yet ? Jun 17 08:15:46 nop, still up north Jun 17 08:51:50 darix: Are you /users Jun 17 08:52:03 ops Jun 17 09:11:05 Stskeeps: pong Jun 17 09:11:45 poutsi: reading backlog Jun 17 09:12:05 ok, it seems like the versions on the repo were mixed Jun 17 09:12:39 could you retry an set the repositories to builds/../trunk/daily/core/ Jun 17 09:17:35 dl9pf_, alright, trying Jun 17 09:29:52 now it blew up in a different way :) but I guess I should update everything from daily and try again Jun 17 09:29:58 Problem: nothing provides cpp = 4.4.2-1.2 needed by cross-armv7l-gcc-4.4.2-1.2.i586 Jun 17 11:32:21 dl9pf_, I updated to daily and I get the error above Jun 17 12:32:16 FunkyPenguin: are the graphics in the mutter-moblin-branding-upstream rpm ? Jun 17 12:40:09 slaine, not heard of that package, but i'll have a look - thanks Jun 17 12:43:16 ok so where does mutter-moblin-branding hide? cant find it in repo.meego.com Jun 17 12:46:05 FunkyPenguin: it's gernerated by the mutter-moblin source rpm it seems Jun 17 12:46:28 at leats, when I did yumdownload --source on it, it gave me mutter-moblin Jun 17 12:49:40 pippin, what was the details on that clutter app we spoke about before, the one you made for building a scene etc. Jun 17 12:49:47 want to try it out on my meego install Jun 17 12:56:47 slaine, hmm, i'll need to check my spec then - thanks Jun 17 12:56:56 slaine: git://git.clutter-project.org/cluttersmith.git Jun 17 12:58:36 pippin: sweet, thanks Jun 17 13:02:00 for the Hildon coders interested in MeeGo: http://lists.meego.com/pipermail/meego-dev/2010-June/003201.html Jun 17 13:02:56 Stskeeps: nice Jun 17 13:08:04 Hi, I've downloaded the SDK and chrooted it, but I don't know the name of the UI that I should run/install? Jun 17 13:12:32 I see that my question is pretty noob, but I'm looking at the wiki/docs and can't find a page describing how to start the main UI Jun 17 13:13:02 startmeego Jun 17 13:14:41 http://wiki.meego.com/Getting_started_with_the_MeeGo_SDK_for_Linux#Run_the_Simulator npouillard, that part there Jun 17 13:16:37 Vortiago: Ok, I've already done that actually Jun 17 13:16:51 * npouillard has a NVIDIA card... Jun 17 13:18:16 Vortiago: The DISPLAY=:2 glxgears worked fine Jun 17 13:20:54 The startmeego command is not supposed to end up on a black screen right ? Jun 17 13:22:19 afternoon dneary Jun 17 13:22:27 hi Stskeeps Jun 17 13:23:09 dneary: sent an initial proof of concept build of hildon on meego mail to meego-dev and mobile-devel-list Jun 17 13:23:22 Stskeeps, I was having a chat earlier & a question came up I hope you might be able to answer Jun 17 13:23:33 cool! Jun 17 13:23:40 mm? Jun 17 13:24:15 the question is: if I want to start developing a Qt application for meego handset now, what can I do? Jun 17 13:24:33 when does meego start to be open source? and I do not mean the damn code? Jun 17 13:24:39 as far as i know, same thing as if you'd develop one towards fremantle Jun 17 13:24:58 Use meego netbook as a base & port to the handset UX when it's out? Jun 17 13:25:09 for instance - or make a qt app for m5 Jun 17 13:25:22 .. as far as i know. Jun 17 13:25:43 Fremantle has the scratchbox SDK to work with - is there an equiv. for meego yet? I'm not aware of it Jun 17 13:25:53 no, not yet - there's a application SDK in progress Jun 17 13:26:01 ok Jun 17 13:26:12 ie, MADDE and all those friends, there's some stuff on wiki Jun 17 13:27:07 I'm still a bit confused about madde Jun 17 13:27:19 is madde going to be the only official SDK for MeeGo? Jun 17 13:27:27 It's not usable for fremantle yet, is it? Jun 17 13:28:20 well, there's a seperation between platform and application sdk, at least Jun 17 13:28:39 http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_1.1_Application_SDK_Project_Plan Jun 17 13:28:56 isn't nokia qt sdk already using madde for compilation? haven't checked since i'm still using sbox1 for everything :) Jun 17 13:31:19 yes it is Jun 17 13:31:50 cool Jun 17 13:32:51 it's quite complex issue still Jun 17 13:33:19 meegotouch uses sb1 afaik Jun 17 13:33:38 interesting development thread: using plain QT versus handset meego-touch-framework http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=524 Jun 17 13:34:11 and what's the major difference between obs and madde and why are they both needed? :) Jun 17 13:34:41 afaik, Madde is your development environment with all the happy qt-stuff, and it will eventually get happy buttons to submit to OBS Jun 17 13:35:47 and isn't obs more about building whole systems then Jun 17 13:36:09 everything is part of the whole system, no? Jun 17 13:37:56 hi Jun 17 13:38:01 i have a question Jun 17 13:38:15 well, bash for example is part of lots of systems Jun 17 13:38:23 and not all those systems are built with obs Jun 17 13:38:24 http://wiki.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Build_Service Jun 17 13:38:39 I was just grasping for some explanation for jarkko^ :) Jun 17 13:38:54 can i run meego on my Toshiba A300? Jun 17 13:39:38 madde is imo more like "access point for ides" and obs is more like set of generic tools? Jun 17 13:39:45 can i be more wrong.. Jun 17 13:40:23 hello? Jun 17 13:40:59 albertonan: i don't know Jun 17 13:41:03 can you? Jun 17 13:41:11 http://meego.com/devices/netbook/supported-hardware-platforms Jun 17 13:41:12 see system requirements Jun 17 13:41:33 i want to install meego on portatil Jun 17 13:42:01 i have intel pentium dual core Jun 17 13:42:16 will it run? Jun 17 13:42:29 after reading some wiki pages i get the idea that while madde cross-compilation toolchain for local use and obs is kind of "cloud service" for building large amounts of packages :) Jun 17 13:43:13 -typos Jun 17 13:43:27 it isnt a netbook Jun 17 13:44:10 hello??? Jun 17 13:44:19 mi pc isnt a netbook Jun 17 13:44:25 can meego run in it' Jun 17 13:44:27 ? Jun 17 13:44:53 albertonan: the Meego for Netbooks, can only run on Netbooks with Intel Atom Nxxx series CPUs with Intel GPUs. Jun 17 13:45:17 albertonan: this has been written in the documentation and all over the website. Jun 17 13:45:24 if it supports SSE3 instructions, has intel GPU, i guess it will run Jun 17 13:45:35 is intel Jun 17 13:45:43 suport sse3 Jun 17 13:45:52 that's ssse3 Jun 17 13:46:13 i ok Jun 17 13:46:20 oops forgot one s :) Jun 17 13:46:35 but anyway, core 2 duo has ssse3 support Jun 17 13:46:43 ok Jun 17 13:46:56 it runs atleast on my dell e6400 without issues Jun 17 13:47:07 so, it wil run Jun 17 13:47:10 Of the 2 downloads on the main page, does Jun 17 13:47:11 The Jun 17 13:47:16 Second one simply Jun 17 13:47:25 core 2 duo, x4500 gpu etc. Jun 17 13:47:35 ok Jun 17 13:47:36 Simply include chrome also? Jun 17 13:47:56 i am downloadin with chrome Jun 17 13:49:07 is meego good or is only to pass the time? Jun 17 13:49:19 are programs? Jun 17 13:49:29 what i can do with it? Jun 17 13:49:48 * TSCHAKeee2 loves it when people come in with informed questions Jun 17 13:50:34 albertonan: practically nothing if you are not interested either (a) developing for it or (b) developing it Jun 17 13:51:06 ok Jun 17 13:51:13 albertonan, it's linux. Jun 17 13:51:37 albertonan: it's mostly centered towards internet activities, right now, things are very bare, it does everything i need it to at present. It's linux, so you can copy stuff over and install it (fedora 12 packages work okay, provided you have the appropriate dependencies) Jun 17 13:51:57 jarkko^: can you add to Jun 17 13:52:03 http://meego.com/devices/netbook/supported-hardware-platforms Jun 17 13:52:06 albertonan: but yes, right now, any MeeGo specific apps are still being developed. Jun 17 13:52:26 If you wanna play with some light weight os for your laptop maybe try chromeos Hexxeh build. Jun 17 13:52:26 pupnik: ok, i can do that Jun 17 13:52:31 hmm no we can't Jun 17 13:52:35 at least i can't Jun 17 13:53:05 i have tried chrome os Jun 17 13:53:21 pupnik: me neither :) Jun 17 13:53:21 * nextime instead of chromeos also suggest xpud => www.xpud.org Jun 17 13:54:29 it would be nice to have some information about toolchain/sdk mess in wiki. Jun 17 13:56:00 how i can develomp for meego? Jun 17 13:56:30 there is lot of nice diagrams how to hardware process works but not actually what it has enabled. Jun 17 13:56:37 albertonan, there sdk for it. Jun 17 13:56:54 ok Jun 17 13:56:58 where are the sdk? Jun 17 13:57:02 http://meego.com/developers/getting-started Jun 17 13:57:03 pupnik: i created an unofficial page here http://wiki.meego.com/Supported_Hardware Jun 17 13:57:32 good wok Jun 17 13:57:44 if it run on my laptop i wil talk with you Jun 17 13:57:46 ;) Jun 17 13:58:32 i was one day thinking that we should have validation sw. Jun 17 13:58:41 and meego stickers :) Jun 17 13:58:56 neener neener Jun 17 13:59:56 i will do a application for meego Jun 17 14:00:10 remember albertonan or cad10 Jun 17 14:00:11 ;) Jun 17 14:01:24 there was already a page for that: http://wiki.meego.com/Devices Jun 17 14:01:28 didn't notice it Jun 17 14:01:44 anyway added e6400 there.. Jun 17 14:02:07 Salve.. Jun 17 14:04:47 jarkko^, wow, you might even run meego in it ;) Jun 17 14:05:17 i cleaned up user chapter a bit in main page so that it easier detect that already existing hardware page Jun 17 14:06:18 there might be some unofficially supported hw mentioned in mail threads. Jun 17 14:06:33 oops jarkko^ thanks Jun 17 14:06:42 i think vbox is probably never going to be supported. Jun 17 14:06:55 Oh. Sad. Jun 17 14:07:01 delete the page eh Jun 17 14:07:16 just my guess.. Jun 17 14:09:19 only major issue with vbox is that ux requires gpu (ui is clutter based, right?) Jun 17 14:09:36 netbook is Jun 17 14:09:48 but the meegotouch-based UIs also require GPU Jun 17 14:09:58 MeeGo requires OpenGL or OpenGLES Jun 17 14:10:00 period Jun 17 14:10:18 vbox supports opengl. Jun 17 14:11:37 http://www.geeks3d.com/20090621/quick-test-virtualbox-3-0-and-opengl-2-0/ Jun 17 14:11:41 thiago: where that tight dependency to gl comes from? because of duicompositor? Jun 17 14:12:05 among other things Jun 17 14:12:06 yes, and the fact that there's a lot of GL code Jun 17 14:12:11 and choice: we want GL Jun 17 14:12:29 software raster isn't going to cut on devices Jun 17 14:12:39 and to anyone else who would complain about that.. *thhpppbbbbbbbbbttttttt* :P :) Jun 17 14:13:29 no really..yeah.. we have all these mobile devices, with low power CPUs, and GPU accelleration to make things nice...this is what meego is targeting. Jun 17 14:13:38 of course, we need good GL drivers Jun 17 14:13:41 (mobile being a very large term, with some expanded exceptions) Jun 17 14:13:45 that's where the problem lies Jun 17 14:13:50 *nod* Jun 17 14:13:51 yes i don't care about politics (fine with GL decision) :) just wanted to understand where the tight binding comes from.. qt paint engines themselves are loaded dynamically.. Jun 17 14:14:07 jarkko^: but not exchangeable at runtime Jun 17 14:14:17 jarkko^: and you can use GL without the graphics system Jun 17 14:14:25 yes i know Jun 17 14:14:47 qglwidget? Jun 17 14:14:57 yes Jun 17 14:17:26 yes but anyway the graphics engine is loaded when application starts up for that application Jun 17 14:17:33 yes Jun 17 14:17:39 unless core applications mix raw opengl and qpainter together Jun 17 14:17:44 my point is that code using QGLWidget directly still needs GL Jun 17 14:17:46 that should not form tight binding to opengl Jun 17 14:17:59 (for example by using qglwidget) Jun 17 14:18:03 but i guess they do then :) Jun 17 14:19:10 hello, i'm trying to recompile moblin-panel-myzone-0.1.32-1.2.src.rpm but it has a dependecy to build called pkg-config(moblin-panel) that i can't solve. Which package provides this dependency? Jun 17 14:19:35 probably moblin-panel-devel Jun 17 14:20:20 there is btw one feature that qt should have in a way or another (does not relate to meego but related to previous discussion) to help to make high performance apps for mobile devices Jun 17 14:20:30 if we assume that we are running qt application with -graphicssystem opengl Jun 17 14:20:52 there should be a way in application detect that and to be able to create shared GL context with the "main context" Jun 17 14:21:08 jarkko^, i don't think that it would be very long term solution to use qglwidget. Jun 17 14:21:46 this isn't related to that at all Jun 17 14:22:47 but generally it would be nice to be able to create opengl context that could texture mapped easily with drawTexture() (for example draw something to fbo) Jun 17 14:22:48 jarkko^, i think it's egl that manages shared context Jun 17 14:22:59 so? Jun 17 14:23:57 how client can create shared context between others. Jun 17 14:24:05 *use Jun 17 14:25:19 hmm.. i don't understand but what i mean is that there should be a way to get pointer to the QGLContext of the paint engine :) Jun 17 14:26:22 thiago: i Jun 17 14:26:37 thiago: i'm not sure if the package has this name. Jun 17 14:29:30 thiago: the only package with -devel that i've found was the moblin-panel-myzone-devel Jun 17 14:32:29 COFFEEEE ihihihiihi Jun 17 14:47:18 hi Jun 17 14:47:29 i am writting from meego Jun 17 14:47:44 it run perfectly Jun 17 14:47:56 i have bluetooth and work Jun 17 14:48:02 i have wifi and work Jun 17 14:48:15 my sound work perfectly Jun 17 14:48:34 my video work perfectly Jun 17 14:48:39 i love it Jun 17 14:48:41 cool Jun 17 14:48:51 Toshiba A300 Jun 17 14:48:55 not a netbook Jun 17 14:49:04 or notebook Jun 17 14:49:10 is a laptop Jun 17 14:49:13 i am happy Jun 17 14:50:45 albertonan, could you set that configuration into wiki then? Jun 17 14:51:24 i dont understant you Jun 17 14:51:47 i am not english Jun 17 14:51:54 albertonan: can you document your hardware to the wiki Jun 17 14:52:01 ok Jun 17 14:52:10 albertonan: so other people know it works with MeeGo Jun 17 14:52:41 my bluetooth isnt integrated Jun 17 14:52:55 is an usb bluetooth Jun 17 14:52:58 http://wiki.meego.com/Devices Jun 17 14:53:06 how i name it_ Jun 17 14:54:19 mmm Jun 17 14:54:28 i dont like my taskboard Jun 17 14:54:42 arent the same symbols Jun 17 14:54:48 i have he spanish iso Jun 17 14:55:12 how i can change the symbols? Jun 17 14:56:49 difficult to say... Jun 17 14:56:54 mmm Jun 17 14:57:16 where normaly is the ? now is + Jun 17 14:57:40 and i want to change it to normal Jun 17 14:57:49 i can do it_ Jun 17 14:57:55 you mean keyboard layout? Jun 17 14:58:04 yes Jun 17 14:58:25 sorry but my english is too poor Jun 17 14:59:02 so i dont know how to explain Jun 17 14:59:04 sorry Jun 17 15:00:31 sx0n do you know how i can change it_ Jun 17 15:00:58 http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_1.0_Netbook_FAQ#How_can_I_change_my_keyboard_layout_after_installation.3F Jun 17 15:01:07 thx Jun 17 15:01:38 i did not write it... :) Jun 17 15:02:24 my webcam run Jun 17 15:02:28 too Jun 17 15:04:38 now work perfectly the keyboard layout Jun 17 15:04:41 :) Jun 17 15:53:18 hi all, where can i find som edoc for develop a client for myZone? i would like to insert the message from a social network that is not support. Jun 17 15:57:22 there might be something on the wiki about development of apps Jun 17 16:09:15 ping lbt Jun 17 16:09:19 thanks Jun 17 16:09:50 hey tekojo Jun 17 16:09:59 hello CosmoHill Jun 17 16:15:49 Hello Jun 17 16:16:24 hi Jun 17 16:18:46 Meego will be able to get installed in Nokia N8 ? Jun 17 16:19:55 khaico: N8 is a Symbian device Jun 17 16:21:24 he might have ment the N800/810? Jun 17 16:22:08 No Xisdibik I didnt ment them :) Jun 17 16:22:23 khaico: then see teko's answer ;) Jun 17 16:23:19 eh ok , I havent concern with serious mobiles for many years, from when I had Nokia 6600 , so just wondering if i will be able to install this great OS to a phone like nokia n8 (since everyone is blaming Symbian lol) Jun 17 16:24:00 anyway I got my answer ,thanks :) Jun 17 16:24:01 khaico: I've actually started a thread on that. It appears this won't be easy but might be possible, with foundation's images perhaps Jun 17 16:24:15 khaico: where? Jun 17 16:24:40 khaico: Symbian has been kind to us, it is not polite to blame it :) Jun 17 16:24:49 to me, at least! Jun 17 16:25:21 Ofc ,its a great OS , but people Is blaming Symbian , they're telling that is slow (Lol some seconds wont "Eat" all ur life ) but anyway Jun 17 16:26:01 by the way everything is possible , So I hope people will work to make meego work on phones like that . :] Jun 17 16:26:07 khaico: you would be surprised how a few seconds over time adds up :P Jun 17 16:26:36 you think so ? ahha :D Jun 17 16:27:24 I dont worry about those few seconds adding up over time Jun 17 16:27:33 but its still a substantial amount of time Jun 17 16:28:20 Xisdibik: I actually appreciate the arrrangement of events in SYmbian, a tiny bit slow at times, Jun 17 16:28:38 Xisdibik: but everything is notified and presented for you to act in an organnized an predicted manner. Jun 17 16:28:55 Xisdibik: which is sometimes lacking in Maemo Jun 17 16:29:30 khaico: I also hope so. I think it'd be great to also try the opposite, for example take S^3 and install it onto an N900 Jun 17 16:29:36 sivang: interesting, ive never used symbian so I wouldn't know, i was more generalizing to seconds adding up over life :) Jun 17 16:29:56 sivang ,seems like you love symbian :D Jun 17 16:30:03 khaico: using the very lightweight nature of S^3 on such a strong machine comapred to what it is used to run. Jun 17 16:30:12 khaico: I've gown up with it, so to speak. Jun 17 16:30:16 *grown Jun 17 16:30:43 Well, my first "serious " phone was the nokia 6600 so i started with it too , its great , but never tried any other phone to compare Jun 17 16:31:01 but seems like this OS is slow , and this wont change very much Jun 17 16:31:41 khaico: display might sometimes be slow, but input is not missed, so I guess buffering takes place so all your requests are served, with a bit of time. Jun 17 16:32:24 khaico: you should try N97/mini a smartphone in your button shirt pocket :) Jun 17 16:32:36 Yes, but when Im watching videos with mobiles which got Android OS , im gettin' pissed of , Jun 17 16:32:49 khaico: pleasure to be online with, especially the great physical keyboard that allows for multi participant chats on Fring. Jun 17 16:33:25 khaico: pretty amazing, N95 has made it quite a standard to be able to watch videos off the phone to a TV with just a bit of transcoding. Jun 17 16:33:47 khaico: the machine looked weak for me at start to do that, but it is very good at that. Jun 17 16:33:54 yes Jun 17 16:34:09 and in Maemo, I do not do any transcoding at all.... Jun 17 16:34:12 JOY Jun 17 16:34:25 I just copu it, plug the S-Video and that's it. Jun 17 16:34:37 and the girl is impressed :) Jun 17 16:35:57 khaico: isn't adroid playback any good? Jun 17 16:36:03 never had one, so I don't know. Jun 17 16:37:17 I dont know a thing too Jun 17 16:37:28 has been out of those thinks for years :/ Jun 17 16:37:56 the last month im just spending many time on searching about phones . and i really hate iPhone :p Jun 17 16:40:06 sivang , do you think should i buy nokia n 900 or n8 ,or should i wait for nokia n 9 ? Jun 17 16:41:17 X-Fade: when you get back to a console do you know of any management 'panel' for servers ? Jun 17 16:41:43 tekojo: you mean , like plesk and friends? Jun 17 16:42:21 khaico: can you buy an n8 already? Jun 17 16:42:30 no :) Jun 17 16:42:49 sivang: plesk? need to google a bit :) Jun 17 16:43:51 khaico: I'd go for the n8 for sure. A rocking strong multimedia and communication device, and I really like to see and play with S^3 on a phone Jun 17 16:44:13 tekojo: plesk is actually a non free, but there are a couple like this who are. Jun 17 16:44:33 sivang: yes, looks kind of like the thing Jun 17 16:45:02 sivang : yes but meego is a really strong OS comparing with S^3 :/ Jun 17 16:45:11 Stskeeps: next TSG meeting still ""...is 9 June 19:00 UTC in #meego-meeting."" ?! Jun 17 16:45:22 DocScrutinizer2: wiki.meego.com is the authorative one Jun 17 16:45:23 :P Jun 17 16:45:24 tekojo: there's another one which is open source, forgot the name! Jun 17 16:45:29 tekojo: my memory is .... Jun 17 16:45:33 tekojo: I forgot :) Jun 17 16:45:35 Stskeeps: /topic Jun 17 16:45:48 Stskeeps: I'd fix it if... Jun 17 16:46:29 tekojo: I had have much experience dealing with hosting companies lately but I forgot the name, I used the open source one since it was easier to tailor and was a bit lighter. Jun 17 16:47:07 khaico: depends on your needs. Jun 17 16:47:08 flexcp and web-cp seem to be OSS Jun 17 16:47:13 * Stskeeps should go for some kebab Jun 17 16:48:10 Stskeeps: just ask samppa... Jun 17 16:48:21 Stskeeps: kebab! Jun 17 16:48:24 * sivang yummms Jun 17 16:48:34 tekojo: yeah, that place is up the street :P Jun 17 16:48:45 right, going out Jun 17 16:48:54 tekojo: good kebab in Helsinki? :) Jun 17 16:49:34 Stskeeps: don't forget to ask Tehini with it Jun 17 16:49:42 sivang: not really, there's one good place I know 70km north of here... :) Jun 17 16:49:48 tekojo: hehe Jun 17 16:49:55 tekojo: it is so common in here... Jun 17 16:50:23 tekojo: webcp looks nice Jun 17 16:51:32 sivang: need to look at it Jun 17 17:01:14 tekojo: checking sometehing for the new servers that's coming? Jun 17 17:01:15 Hey guys - I'm trying to install Meego 1.0 on an EEEPc 700. No matter how I configure my partitions, it hangs on "Installing bootloader". Any ideas? Jun 17 17:05:19 Stskeeps: if you are at radisson seaside the pizzeria up the alley is good (just ask lcuk)! :D Jun 17 17:11:16 frals: nah, omena :) Jun 17 17:11:47 ok.. my knowledge of helsinki hotels is limited to klaus k, radisson seaside and holiday inn west :D Jun 17 17:12:04 hehe Jun 17 17:12:14 haha Jun 17 17:12:20 :) Jun 17 17:12:54 omena ♥ Jun 17 17:13:36 (especially the one close to our office) Jun 17 17:17:27 indeed Jun 17 17:18:17 * w00t_ lacks experience with finnish hotels totally! :P Jun 17 17:23:03 sivang: yes, mapping the possibilities Jun 17 17:45:07 arjan: ping Jun 17 17:57:49 hi Jun 17 17:57:55 what can I do for you sir Jun 17 17:58:32 arjan: your email Jun 17 17:58:44 403 4.7.0 encryption too weak 0 less than 168 Jun 17 18:00:05 have you seen this before? Jun 17 18:00:11 nope Jun 17 18:01:41 weird Jun 17 18:01:47 sending through another SMTP server Jun 17 18:02:07 ah got it now Jun 17 18:03:18 how does one create a thread on the forum? Jun 17 18:03:24 ok, blame Microsoft then Jun 17 18:03:27 I'm logged but there's no visible way to do that. Jun 17 18:03:46 thiago_home: sent to our qt packaging person Jun 17 18:03:48 thanks Jun 17 18:06:17 ah! suddenly a 'new thread' button appears. Jun 17 18:06:20 odd Jun 17 18:09:16 for any authoritive comments, I'd be happy to read: http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?p=3984#post3984 Jun 17 18:09:25 DawnFoster: ^ followed your instructions :) Jun 17 18:11:16 how can I make sure the forum will update me when someone responds to my thread? Jun 17 18:23:04 sivang: thread tools, follow Jun 17 18:23:30 tekojo: let me look Jun 17 18:23:33 * sivang looks Jun 17 18:24:29 tekojo: this is cumbersome Jun 17 18:25:06 tekojo: whenever I start a new thread I think it is wise to provide a '[x] subscribe to this thread' when creating it or having something automatic for sub'ing to your started threads automagically. Jun 17 18:25:23 hmm. I recall that it was easier, but apparently not Jun 17 18:25:33 * sivang sighs Jun 17 18:26:40 sivang: you mean like the dropdown menu you can pick "Subscription" mode from when you create a new topic? Jun 17 18:27:14 frals: I just created a new thread, didn't see it Jun 17 18:27:29 arjan: you use a Matrox graphics card in your i7 right? Jun 17 18:27:30 i got the "new thread" page open now and i see it clearly Jun 17 18:27:33 and that runs meego? Jun 17 18:27:54 CosmoHill: it runs. not very well. Jun 17 18:28:00