**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jun 18 02:59:57 2010
Jun 18 03:24:07 <DawnFoster> w00t_ I was catching up on forums today - the mailing lists have been easier to keep up with lately
Jun 18 07:41:15 <brokendatapoint> hi y'all
Jun 18 07:45:25 <brokendatapoint> has anyone installed Meego onto a Asus EeePC 1005PE 10" Intel Atom N450-based netbook?
Jun 18 07:47:36 <sx0n> brokendatapoint, http://wiki.meego.com/Devices
Jun 18 07:49:22 <Jaffa> Morning, all
Jun 18 07:49:38 <brokendatapoint> sx0n: thank you
Jun 18 07:49:42 <brokendatapoint> Jaffa: morning
Jun 18 07:54:01 <brokendatapoint> hmm, best bet would be to buy a netbook that has an Atom N450, not a N270, yeah?
Jun 18 08:05:16 <brokendatapoint> any other Kiwi's here?
Jun 18 08:41:19 <FunkyPenguin> slaine, ok i tried using mutter-moblin but that doesnt seem to have the required icon
Jun 18 08:41:27 <FunkyPenguin> im still getting ERROR: Icon file not installed: /usr/src/packages/BUILDROOT/abrt-netbook-0.0.1-3.2.i386//usr/share/applications/abrt-properties.desktop (abrt)
Jun 18 08:46:35 <slaine> FunkyPenguin: is that an rpm packaging issue ?
Jun 18 08:47:21 <slaine> looking at the spec for the meego package shows it putting in that dir
Jun 18 08:49:09 <slaine> I've had another lookl
Jun 18 08:49:43 <slaine> that abrt.png icon is located in /usr/share/icons/moblin/24x24/icons/abrt.png
Jun 18 08:49:57 <slaine> and it's provided by the moblin-icon-theme
Jun 18 08:50:04 <FunkyPenguin> hmm
Jun 18 08:57:00 <FunkyPenguin> ah maybe becuase moblin-icon-theme is failing with a stazi rpmlint error :/
Jun 18 09:02:34 <Myrtti> lbt_: OHAI!
Jun 18 09:14:19 <lbt_> Myrtti: o/
Jun 18 09:33:10 <slaine> FunkyPenguin: sorted then ?
Jun 18 10:03:59 <koupsaa> hello
Jun 18 10:04:57 <FunkyPenguin> slaine, unfortunately not :( still getting the same issue
Jun 18 10:05:45 <slaine> even after moblin-icon-theme is installed ?
Jun 18 10:06:09 <slaine> you might want to set a Requires: moblin-icont-theme in the abrt-netbook spec file
Jun 18 10:06:21 <slaine> s/icont/icon/
Jun 18 10:06:21 <infobot> slaine meant: you might want to set a Requires: moblin-icon-theme in the abrt-netbook spec file
Jun 18 10:06:22 <Andy80> how can I install the "iw" package on my N900? I cannot find it in repositories :\
Jun 18 10:06:50 <slaine> Andy80: if it's not in the repo's then you'd have to build a package yourself
Jun 18 10:07:18 <slaine> connman handles network connections on meego though
Jun 18 10:07:54 <Andy80> slaine: I wonder why ppl port packages like aircrack-ng and doesn't port iw -.-
Jun 18 10:28:03 <koupsaa> what is abrt ?
Jun 18 10:28:06 <koupsaa> abrtd: Failed to start: imeout waiting for child
Jun 18 10:28:23 <koupsaa> s/imeout/timeout
Jun 18 10:33:11 <koupsaa> mmm
Jun 18 10:57:37 <FunkyPenguin> slaine, it's already in the BuildRequires. there are some really weird inconsistencies with naming of icons in the tarball
Jun 18 11:00:10 <slaine> FunkyPenguin: bizarre
Jun 18 11:00:28 <slaine> The meego src rpm builds fine, fwiw
Jun 18 11:00:51 <FunkyPenguin> yeah, that's what really annoys me :)
Jun 18 11:01:20 <FunkyPenguin> saying that though the opensuse obs has some real stasi rpmlint checks now which isnt fun for a dirty packager like me
Jun 18 11:25:23 <sivang> hi all
Jun 18 11:25:44 <sivang> So, the beta QT Nokia SDK is the latest version ?
Jun 18 11:26:00 <sivang> Or is there any new version to it? like a 1.0 ?
Jun 18 11:26:12 <sivang> (which is still beta nonetheless)
Jun 18 11:28:32 <sivang> hey timeless_mbp , whasup?
Jun 18 11:30:25 <timeless_mbp> not much
Jun 18 11:38:23 <sivang> timeless_mbp: you know if the 9th June release of the NOkia Qt SDK is the latest?
Jun 18 11:38:41 <timeless_mbp> no idea. there's a #qt and a #qt-maemo
Jun 18 11:40:51 <sivang> timeless_mbp: ah, thanks, /me joins
Jun 18 11:50:40 <Mirv> puuh
Jun 18 12:30:50 <luist> can anyone tell me how does the new moblin-app-installer (0.4) reads the repository? it seems to mention garage.repo in the Makefiles, but this file is not present in the file list, nor is loaded in the application, and its showing me Package not found for all the applications
Jun 18 12:35:14 <FunkyPenguin> luist, it's split into two packages now isnt it? - garage-client-services and garage-client-ui
Jun 18 12:35:29 <luist> FunkyPenguin, ooh didnt know it... thanks
Jun 18 12:36:39 <FunkyPenguin> np, there are quite a few changes with meego vs moblin
Jun 18 12:40:05 <luist> FunkyPenguin, these packages wont install garage.repo either :(
Jun 18 12:48:18 <luist> FunkyPenguin, ?
Jun 18 12:49:30 * FunkyPenguin checks
Jun 18 12:50:47 <FunkyPenguin> luist, hmm im not sure then im afraid
Jun 18 12:51:00 <FunkyPenguin> i have seen some .repo files somewhere but im not sure where
Jun 18 13:53:52 <Stskeeps> slaine: http://meego.com/community/blogs/samipienimaki/2010/opening-meego-requirements
Jun 18 14:03:41 <Stskeeps> at least accessible in search, so things should be opening..
Jun 18 14:04:36 <slaine> Stskeeps: cool
Jun 18 14:04:59 <slaine> I can't see that featurezilla the sami mentioned in bugzilla though
Jun 18 14:05:53 <w00t_> 'meego features' classification, perhaps
Jun 18 14:43:20 <Stskeeps> slaine: yeah, that part is a bit odd, but the features are searchable
Jun 18 14:48:13 <slaine> I searched for Features and got nothing
Jun 18 14:48:20 <slaine> no time to dig deeper atm
Jun 18 14:48:33 <Stskeeps> check out quim's mail on meego-dev i guess
Jun 18 14:50:58 <kenya888> Hi all :-)
Jun 18 14:52:33 <kenya888> X-Fade, are you in #meego now? :-)
Jun 18 15:43:31 <Stskeeps> hmm, i wonder if there's supposed to be something on bugs.meego.com front page that is directly about requirements
Jun 18 15:43:52 * GAN900 chuckles at community being a separate entity in the feature requests diagram.
Jun 18 15:44:31 <Stskeeps> main part being anyone can push in :P
Jun 18 15:50:01 <DawnFoster> GAN900, but you'll notice that there isn't an Intel / Nokia box, just one big happy community box where everyone can participate
Jun 18 15:50:32 <GAN900> Stskeeps, we'll see how it goes.
Jun 18 15:52:11 <lcuk> DawnFoster, best get used to those nice clean arrows beginning to twist around again as regressions occur :D
Jun 18 15:52:32 * Stskeeps is looking forward to reporting from the features data over time
Jun 18 15:52:39 <lcuk> as much as i know they are hated and think they will all be covered they will occur :p
Jun 18 15:59:10 <Stskeeps> http://bugs.meego.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=2718&hide_resolved=0 is nice views
Jun 18 15:59:55 <Stskeeps> ah, there we go
Jun 18 15:59:58 <Stskeeps> http://bugs.meego.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=3211&hide_resolved=1
Jun 18 16:47:21 <w00t_> DawnFoster: remember the mail I threatened about? ;)
Jun 18 16:53:22 <DawnFoster> :)
Jun 18 17:08:15 <Stskeeps> heh, i guess if the requirements stuff gets set up right, it might be possible to have a 'Where can I contribute' list with all the various requirements that hasn't yet been assigned to anyone :P
Jun 18 17:09:11 <Stskeeps> where help is actually needed
Jun 18 17:17:21 <slaine> I just submitted a feature request to bugzilla
Jun 18 17:17:24 <slaine> yay
Jun 18 17:18:32 <Stskeeps> woo
Jun 18 17:18:33 <Stskeeps> url?
Jun 18 17:22:26 <slaine> Stskeeps: http://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3262
Jun 18 17:23:17 <Stskeeps> hm, interesting
Jun 18 17:23:20 <Stskeeps> only core and handset in ther
Jun 18 17:23:21 <Stskeeps> e
Jun 18 17:23:26 <Stskeeps> i guess it'll be populated later
Jun 18 17:24:47 <slaine> yeah, I couldn't set category on mine to be a feature request.
Jun 18 17:24:58 <Stskeeps> hm
Jun 18 17:25:11 <Stskeeps> File a bug -> MeeGo features?
Jun 18 18:29:00 <AntiPudding> http://opendotdotdot.blogspot.com/2010/06/german-publishers-want-more-monopoly.html  german publishers want copyright over sentences...
Jun 18 18:29:30 <Stskeeps> .. relevant to meego how? :P
Jun 18 18:29:42 <AntiPudding> documentation? :)
Jun 18 18:29:48 <AntiPudding> ad copy?
Jun 18 18:30:04 <AntiPudding> but it's not specific, sorry
Jun 18 18:30:46 <Stskeeps> DawnFoster: any news on servers re IRC stuff btw?
Jun 18 18:31:17 <DawnFoster> I know that we have the servers, but mrshaver is still working on prioritizing what gets migrated when
Jun 18 18:31:26 <Stskeeps> :nod:
Jun 18 18:31:32 <CosmoHill> meego has IRC severs?
Jun 18 18:31:40 <Stskeeps> nah, it was more for logging bots and meetbot and such
Jun 18 18:31:40 <DawnFoster> not really
Jun 18 18:31:47 <CosmoHill> ah okay
Jun 18 18:31:50 <DawnFoster> what stskeeps said
Jun 18 18:32:15 <auke> meegobot farm :)
Jun 18 18:32:22 <DawnFoster> other than those super secret irc servers *insert evil laugh*
Jun 18 18:32:31 <CosmoHill> auke: you wanna breed them and put them in pet shops?
Jun 18 18:32:38 <DawnFoster> (that was a joke, by the way) :)
Jun 18 18:32:44 <Stskeeps> auke: well, there's a kernel bot standing somewhere at least..
Jun 18 18:32:58 <auke> CosmoHill: perhaps my wife can grow them on her farmville farm
Jun 18 18:33:19 <CosmoHill> I freak out my friend when I give him farmwille tips
Jun 18 18:33:34 <CosmoHill> probably because I don't have facebook
Jun 18 18:33:35 <auke> hahaha
Jun 18 18:33:54 <auke> I give my wife tips too. I do not have a facebook account either.
Jun 18 18:34:08 <Stskeeps> my productivity will drop immensely once civilization comes to facebok.
Jun 18 18:34:11 <Stskeeps> +o
Jun 18 18:38:05 * CosmoHill installs QT libs and runs away
Jun 18 18:38:59 <lcuk> Stskeeps, a kernel bot?
Jun 18 18:40:23 <Stskeeps> lcuk: syncs OBS and gitorious
Jun 18 18:40:54 <lcuk> runs in kernel context tho?
Jun 18 18:41:01 <lcuk> or its a bot to copy kernel files
Jun 18 18:41:15 <Stskeeps> it's a bot to sync obs changes to gitorious, it looks like
Jun 18 18:41:54 <th0br0> gday
Jun 18 18:41:58 <Stskeeps> moo
Jun 18 18:42:09 <lcuk> to gitorious?
Jun 18 18:42:10 <th0br0> cow
Jun 18 18:42:14 <Stskeeps> yes
Jun 18 18:42:22 <lcuk> i tohught it would use gitorious for master rather than the other way round
Jun 18 18:42:48 <Stskeeps> beats me..
Jun 18 18:42:48 <Stskeeps> :P
Jun 18 18:42:54 <lcuk> heh
Jun 18 18:47:05 * slaine cries at scripts that are hardcoded to use uid/gid's 
Jun 18 18:47:25 <Stskeeps> you should cry over maemo a lot then
Jun 18 18:47:30 <slaine> nod
Jun 18 18:47:37 <slaine> it's not maemo though
Jun 18 18:47:45 <Stskeeps> yeah, just noting :)
Jun 18 18:48:26 <slaine> trying to figure why our my new image fresh out of the build system wasn't working
Jun 18 18:49:20 <CosmoHill> damn and blast
Jun 18 18:49:30 <slaine> after some debugging it seems that the downloaded config only includes files that started out as 500,501, and I found (500,501) in a few places in the backend server scripts that create the configs
Jun 18 18:49:31 <CosmoHill> (to quote my grandad)
Jun 18 18:49:57 <lcuk> slaine, o_O a meegoism already :O
Jun 18 18:50:03 <lcuk> im shocked!
Jun 18 18:50:06 <th0br0> :D
Jun 18 18:50:20 <slaine> lcuk: this my day job stuff, nothing related to meego
Jun 18 18:50:39 <th0br0> what is your day job stuff or is that under nda?
Jun 18 18:51:06 <slaine> I'm the principal engineer/software manager here, http://www.lincor.com
Jun 18 18:52:21 <CosmoHill> so...who wants to help me with Qt >.>
Jun 18 18:52:53 <slaine> CosmoHill: try this
Jun 18 18:52:57 <slaine> rpm --erase qt*
Jun 18 18:52:59 <slaine> lol
Jun 18 18:53:01 <CosmoHill> hehe
Jun 18 18:53:34 <CosmoHill> I've installed qt-mac-opensource-4.6.3-debug-libs.dmg but can't seem to find them
Jun 18 18:53:47 <slaine> You know what, this mess isn't my mess. I'll post a bug with the dev responsible and head home to my family
Jun 18 18:55:15 <CosmoHill> cyas slaine
Jun 18 18:59:44 <th0br0> ah col slaine
Jun 18 18:59:57 <thiago_home> CosmoHill: that's *just* the debug libs
Jun 18 19:00:06 <CosmoHill> it said it was all the libs
Jun 18 19:00:07 <thiago_home> CosmoHill: you need the other package as well to do anything useful
Jun 18 19:00:41 <CosmoHill> so I'\ve install the libs I probably won't use?
Jun 18 19:01:24 <thiago_home> if you want to debug Qt, you need these
Jun 18 19:01:55 <CosmoHill> http://qt.nokia.com/downloads/qt-for-open-source-cpp-development-on-mac-os-x
Jun 18 19:01:59 <CosmoHill> i have the 2nd link
Jun 18 19:02:04 <CosmoHill> so I'd need the first link too?
Jun 18 19:02:47 <th0br0> qt development on osx sucks. the apps you distribute always are  ~50mb in size as you normally package all qt frameworks/libs with them
Jun 18 19:03:33 <thiago_home> static cocoa now works
Jun 18 19:03:47 <th0br0> ah really? cool.
Jun 18 19:04:03 <luist> hey.. this meego garage netbook ui is terribly ugly...
Jun 18 19:04:20 <lcuk> th0br0, really?
Jun 18 19:04:33 <CosmoHill> th0br0: hmm, I use my mac for everything including coding
Jun 18 19:04:42 <th0br0> lcuk: yeah, that's what qt makes out of it at least
Jun 18 19:05:01 <CosmoHill> if I needed / wanted to distribute my Qt apps I'll install Qt on Linux or Windows
Jun 18 19:05:06 <lcuk> well as thiago_home says it might be solved
Jun 18 19:05:08 <th0br0> eeh quassel
Jun 18 19:05:08 <th0br0> not qt
Jun 18 19:05:09 <th0br0> :S
Jun 18 19:05:24 <lcuk> how would you get dependencies in otherwise (i dont know much about mac packaging
Jun 18 19:05:28 <CosmoHill> there is Carbon and Cocoa
Jun 18 19:06:18 <thiago_home> Carbon static has always been supported, but the app is still upwards of 10 MB
Jun 18 19:06:24 <thiago_home> Qt is far more useful as a system library
Jun 18 19:06:34 <CosmoHill> hmm
Jun 18 19:06:52 <CosmoHill> g++ is almost twice of size of gcc when compiling "main(){}"
Jun 18 19:07:19 <CosmoHill> so I'll just have to delete the apps afterwards to save space
Jun 18 19:07:48 <Stskeeps> strip?
Jun 18 19:07:49 <Stskeeps> :P
Jun 18 19:07:55 <thiago_home> CosmoHill: g++ links to libstdc+
Jun 18 19:07:58 <thiago_home> +
Jun 18 19:08:07 <CosmoHill> ah that would explain it
Jun 18 19:09:39 <thiago_home> actually no, the extra linking shouldn't cause any difference
Jun 18 19:09:50 <th0br0> lcuk: you can't, that's the big problem imho with macs :)
Jun 18 19:10:11 <th0br0> s/imho with macs/with macs imho/
Jun 18 19:10:11 <infobot> th0br0 meant: lcuk: you can't, that's the big problem with macs imho :)
Jun 18 19:10:12 * Stskeeps ponders how fast/slow openvg on MBX is
Jun 18 19:10:21 <th0br0> mbx? mac book x?
Jun 18 19:10:34 <CosmoHill> th0br0: another problem with macs is that on a bright day when the sun is facing you you have a apple icon in the middle of your screen
Jun 18 19:10:36 <Stskeeps> the thing before SGX
Jun 18 19:10:46 <th0br0> really, CosmoHill?
Jun 18 19:10:49 <thiago_home> lcuk: on Mac, usually apps are packaged with their entire dependencies
Jun 18 19:10:52 <th0br0> Stskeeps: you lost me there
Jun 18 19:11:02 <thiago_home> and Mac users seem to accept downloading huge binaries
Jun 18 19:11:07 <th0br0> CosmoHill: the good thing with macs however is the long battery life
Jun 18 19:11:14 <Stskeeps> th0br0: well, MBX is the 3d accelerator in Nokia N8x0 :)
Jun 18 19:11:19 <th0br0> ah Stskeeps :D
Jun 18 19:11:19 <slaine> Stskeeps: is the MBX the gl chip on the 8x0 ?
Jun 18 19:11:25 <slaine> I guess yes :)
Jun 18 19:11:48 <th0br0> but then again, mac books are goddamn expensive
Jun 18 19:12:28 <slaine> Stskeeps: I was under the impression that the n8x0's had reasonable gl acceleration
Jun 18 19:12:39 <Stskeeps> well, not as good as the omap3 ones obviously
Jun 18 19:13:07 <slaine> no, but still, surely enough to accelerate OpenVG to an acceptable level
Jun 18 19:14:08 <lcuk> thiago_home, they either accept it, or they do it because htey have to (work etc)
Jun 18 19:14:13 <CosmoHill> th0br0: year, I get 4.5 hours out of my powerbook
Jun 18 19:14:31 <th0br0> CosmoHill: yeah, they actually promise 8-9 hours for modern books
Jun 18 19:14:33 <slaine> arjan: any feedback on my Moblin MID UX email to the list yesterday ?
Jun 18 19:14:42 <CosmoHill> well mine is almost 5 years old :)
Jun 18 19:14:50 <CosmoHill> (well some of it anyway)
Jun 18 19:15:01 <thiago_home> slaine: they were OMAP2, so they were decent. But the GL driver wasn't.
Jun 18 19:15:20 <thiago_home> that driver is a problem even today
Jun 18 19:15:28 <slaine> arjan, Would I be better waiting 'til the Handset UX project is public before asking again. ?
Jun 18 19:15:38 <slaine> thiago_home: so I've heard ;)
Jun 18 19:15:48 <CosmoHill> th0br0: http://i50.tinypic.com/5cnew.jpg have a kitten or two
Jun 18 19:15:58 <th0br0> :) cute.
Jun 18 19:16:34 <th0br0> good thing with non-mbs is, however, that you can normally get additional batteriesx
Jun 18 19:16:40 <slaine> I've been using linux since 1995, it's sad that STILL graphics and network drivers are still the primary bugbear for a truely great linux platform
Jun 18 19:16:55 <CosmoHill> yeah mine is a Newer Tech battery
Jun 18 19:16:58 <Stskeeps> well, blame it on the people not wanting to standardize kernel interface .. :P
Jun 18 19:17:12 <Stskeeps> or being against closed source to the extent of scaring away vendors..
Jun 18 19:17:12 <Stskeeps> :P
Jun 18 19:17:19 <CosmoHill> my new power adapter is also a newer tech one, nearest shop is in belgium :/
Jun 18 19:23:33 <CosmoHill> how do I compile a single Qt source file?
Jun 18 19:23:50 <thiago_home> g++ -c -I$QTDIR/include -o somefile.o somefile.cpp
Jun 18 19:24:18 <thiago_home> on Mac, installed from .dmg, you may need to use -framework instead
Jun 18 19:44:23 <tekojo> lbt: are you around?
Jun 18 19:46:41 <slaine> right, I'm definitely off now
Jun 18 19:46:46 <slaine> have a good weekend folks
Jun 18 20:00:36 * CosmoHill growls at his mac
Jun 18 20:01:02 <gour> (q
Jun 18 20:02:47 <thiago_home> isn't there an app called growl?
Jun 18 20:02:55 <w00t_> iirc, yes
Jun 18 20:03:23 <CosmoHill> yes, it's pretty useful
Jun 18 20:03:48 <thiago_home> then you don't need to growl, there's an app for that
Jun 18 20:03:49 <thiago_home> :-P
Jun 18 20:03:54 <w00t_> haha
Jun 18 20:03:55 <w00t_> ^5
Jun 18 20:04:11 <lbt> tekojo: am now
Jun 18 20:09:45 <Stskeeps> heh, one of the tv stations at my hotel is showing a giant "Adobe Flash Player 10.0 r22 has crashed" windows box :)
Jun 18 20:10:10 * CosmoHill dances
Jun 18 20:10:19 <CosmoHill> g++ -framework QtGui -framework QtCore -o test foo.cc
Jun 18 20:11:20 <CosmoHill> I had to change #include <QtGui> to #include <QtGui/QtGui>
Jun 18 20:17:01 <tekojo> lbt: actually nothing, just thought to tell that we have no news on the server situation :)
Jun 18 20:17:19 <tekojo> some machines in rack, but no word on details
Jun 18 20:17:25 <lbt> heh ... well thanks...
Jun 18 20:17:38 <lbt> sounds like progress though
Jun 18 20:18:00 <lbt> and I can focus on Boss this weekend :)
Jun 18 20:18:18 <tekojo> but you could find out what virtualisation to use, as I think we should be getting to some real work soon
Jun 18 20:18:21 <lbt> we had a good meeting with anaZ today too
Jun 18 20:18:45 <tekojo> oh, any details to share?
Jun 18 20:18:46 <lbt> starting to really work on the MeeGo infrastructure in the open
Jun 18 20:18:56 <lbt> have you seen the BOSS page?
Jun 18 20:19:10 <lbt> http://wiki.meego.com/BOSS
Jun 18 20:19:18 <tekojo> no, spent the better part of the day escorting Stskeeps :)
Jun 18 20:19:34 <lbt> <grin> he needs careful attention
Jun 18 20:20:08 <tekojo> yes get's lost all the time and acts like a complete tourist :)
Jun 18 20:20:10 <lbt> anyhow... code links at the bottom... really new though
Jun 18 20:20:20 <lbt> heh... yep, same guy then
Jun 18 20:20:44 <lbt> did you get him to cross the road when there are *no* cars around?
Jun 18 20:21:14 <tekojo> oh, didn't dare go near roads, better stay indoors
Jun 18 20:21:29 <lbt> prolly safer... can't risk him anyway
Jun 18 20:21:52 <lbt> we need a stunt double ;)
Jun 18 20:21:56 <tekojo> but did you get the obs details sorted out?
Jun 18 20:22:02 <tekojo> :D
Jun 18 20:22:09 <lbt> access?
Jun 18 20:22:25 <Stskeeps> oi
Jun 18 20:22:25 <Stskeeps> :P
Jun 18 20:22:25 <lbt> I asked Ramez when it's moving to pmo
Jun 18 20:22:53 <lbt> he's awake...
Jun 18 20:22:57 <tekojo> lbt: no, the implementation details
Jun 18 20:23:05 <tekojo> what VMs to use and all that
Jun 18 20:23:13 <lbt> oh, no
Jun 18 20:23:25 <lbt> I forgot to ask anaZ
Jun 18 20:23:43 <lbt> I'll check with adrianS
Jun 18 20:23:56 <tekojo> the gitorious project looks really good
Jun 18 20:24:02 <lbt> they use Xen at openSuse
Jun 18 20:24:21 <lbt> tekojo: yes, Revs is quite useful... but when Boss gets going it'll be sweet
Jun 18 20:24:28 <tekojo> the same at LF I guess?
Jun 18 20:24:56 <lbt> not sure... the meego.com build doesn't use any AFAIK
Jun 18 20:25:09 <lbt> which is dodgy I think
Jun 18 20:25:19 <lbt> must check that...
Jun 18 20:25:44 <tekojo> really? that sounds strange
Jun 18 20:26:00 <lbt> well, the dev base is fairly trusted...
Jun 18 20:26:11 <tekojo> true, but still
Jun 18 20:26:19 <lbt> or it could be that the kvm approach doesn't leave clues in the build log
Jun 18 20:27:28 <lbt> the Xen build log says : Doing xen build in /dev/abuild/6_root
Jun 18 20:27:34 <lbt> https://build.opensuse.org/package/rawlog?arch=i586&package=libqt4-sql-plugins&project=KDE%3AQt45&repository=openSUSE_Factory
Jun 18 20:27:55 <lbt> vs
Jun 18 20:27:59 <lbt> http://build.meego.com/package/rawlog?arhttp://build.meego.com/package/rawlog?arch=i586&package=at&project=home%3Albt&repository=Trunkch=i586&package=at&project=home%3Albt&repository=Trunk
Jun 18 20:29:14 <tekojo> what makes you think I can access the latter link? :)
Jun 18 20:29:54 <lbt> oh :)
Jun 18 20:29:54 <Stskeeps> well, the latter link is broken
Jun 18 20:30:03 <lbt> http://build.meego.com/package/rawlog?arch=i586&package=at&project=home%3Albt&repository=Trunk
Jun 18 20:30:10 <lbt> double middle click
Jun 18 20:30:23 <lbt> very touristy mistake :P
Jun 18 20:30:48 <tekojo> well, when it comes to b.m.c I'm an average person, no rights
Jun 18 20:30:50 <lbt> it does specify : Memory limit set to 10943140KB
Jun 18 20:31:46 <tekojo> that sounds like building on bare hardware
Jun 18 20:33:15 <tekojo> but it's late Friday evening here and I need some sleep :)
Jun 18 20:33:33 <lbt> test -n "$VM_TYPE" && echo "Doing $VM_TYPE build${VM_IMAGE:+ in $VM_IMAGE}"
Jun 18 20:33:47 <lbt> ^^ so if it was running kvm it'd say so
Jun 18 20:34:31 <lbt> OK 'night tekojo...
Jun 18 20:34:45 <tekojo> good night!
Jun 18 20:53:50 <CosmoHill> http://black-flag.co.uk/wordpress/2010/06/18/qt-on-mac-10-4/
Jun 18 21:05:16 <trem> nite all, sweet dreams
Jun 18 21:06:07 <CosmoHill> cyas oh damn he's gone
Jun 18 21:08:07 <CosmoHill> thiago_home: that link useful?
Jun 18 21:13:44 <CosmoHill> hey DawnFoster
Jun 18 21:14:03 <CosmoHill> I wrote a little guide to compiling Qt on mac
Jun 18 21:14:12 <CosmoHill> it needs improving but it's something
Jun 18 21:14:35 <lcuk> CosmoHill, great!
Jun 18 21:14:44 <CosmoHill> :D
Jun 18 21:15:11 <lcuk> are you drinking tonight in light of england ummmm
Jun 18 21:15:18 <CosmoHill> nope
Jun 18 21:15:25 <CosmoHill> I'm not following the football
Jun 18 21:15:35 <lcuk> hard not to really
Jun 18 21:15:41 <lcuk> mood of country changes based on matches
Jun 18 21:15:55 <CosmoHill> I've been indoors all day
Jun 18 21:16:07 <CosmoHill> lazying about and taking a break from hayfever pills
Jun 18 21:16:11 <lcuk> so have i but i would still know
Jun 18 21:16:20 <CosmoHill> someone said we drew
Jun 18 21:16:21 <lcuk> eugh hayfever is ftl
Jun 18 21:16:39 <CosmoHill> I need to get some fizzy drinks, they help
Jun 18 21:25:02 <CosmoHill> if someone reminds me to update ir or has suggestions that will be good
Jun 18 21:49:13 <vgrade> lcuk, I'll need a few drinks after that match
Jun 18 21:53:01 <zs> anyone knows where $PATH is defined in meego?
Jun 18 21:53:26 <CosmoHill> zs: what is the $PATH?
Jun 18 21:54:03 <zs> CosmoHill: echo $PATH
Jun 18 21:54:13 <CosmoHill> can you give me the output
Jun 18 21:54:49 <zs>  /usr/lib/qt4/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/root/bin
Jun 18 21:55:11 <CosmoHill> try /etc/profile
Jun 18 22:21:10 <brokendatapoint> hi
Jun 18 22:56:12 <brokendatapoint> does anyone chat here or just come and go?
Jun 18 22:56:30 <w00t_> people talk, yes
Jun 18 22:56:38 <w00t_> you're on at a bit of a bad time (friday night)
Jun 18 22:57:10 <brokendatapoint> ah right, whoops, timezone got me, i'm in NZ
Jun 18 22:58:07 <brokendatapoint> off to buy 2 netbooks today to install Meego on, wife/me ... trying to locate a Aspire One 532H ... or 2 is hard as
Jun 18 23:00:19 <AntiPudd1ng> hopefully with intel's money, brokendatapoint
Jun 18 23:02:53 <AntiPudd1ng> maybe i could run meego using the onboard gpu on morhterboard....
Jun 18 23:04:08 <brokendatapoint> AntiPudd1ng: hopefully with intel's money => ??
Jun 18 23:05:12 <AntiPudd1ng> you are buying a netbook with
Jun 18 23:07:15 <AntiPudd1ng> i like that keyboard
Jun 18 23:09:02 <AntiPudd1ng> loud speakers are nice
Jun 18 23:12:31 <brokendatapoint> ah k, can you pugrade the AO 532H to2GB SODIMM?
Jun 18 23:12:40 <brokendatapoint> upgrade* even
Jun 18 23:17:08 <AntiPudd1ng> dunno
Jun 18 23:19:39 <CosmoHill> w00t_: could be a worse time, saturday morning
Jun 18 23:20:34 <w00t_> CosmoHill: mm?
Jun 18 23:20:40 <CosmoHill> (hungover)
Jun 18 23:20:40 <w00t_> oh, I see
Jun 18 23:23:46 * CosmoHill looks at eitherkillers
Jun 18 23:30:20 <sirpengi> intel is giving out money to buy netbooks?
Jun 18 23:30:29 <CosmoHill> no
Jun 18 23:31:05 <sirpengi> :(
Jun 18 23:50:08 <AntiPudd1ng> http://perspectives.mvdirona.com/2009/03/17/VirtualizingGPUs.aspx  Virtualizing GPUS
Jun 19 00:34:49 <CosmoHill> night night
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