**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Jun 19 02:59:57 2010 Jun 19 05:11:19 morn Jun 19 07:58:29 morning all Jun 19 07:59:11 morn Jun 19 07:59:41 hows things? Jun 19 07:59:54 * Stskeeps is boarding flight in 10 mins Jun 19 08:00:02 hometime :) Jun 19 08:00:22 * lbt suggests chocolate covered dates Jun 19 08:00:24 just met quim in the airport too, so that was nice - hoping they didn't miss their flight :P Jun 19 08:00:26 fo Bogna Jun 19 08:00:40 mm, i think she'll just be happy to be home Jun 19 08:00:55 where are you going? Jun 19 08:00:58 she'll be happier with you *and* chocolate! Jun 19 08:01:04 * lbt knows Jun 19 08:01:05 morning lbt Jun 19 08:01:08 hi th0br0 Jun 19 08:01:09 back from helsinki towards warsaw Jun 19 08:04:29 X-Fade: ping .... I can't access community OBS... no route to host from jump point Jun 19 08:04:56 already in a week i'll fly to denmark.. and hopefully no travels after those weeks for a little while Jun 19 08:05:11 why hopefully? Jun 19 08:05:14 travelling is awesome Jun 19 08:05:20 heh.... Jun 19 08:05:31 home is awesomer Jun 19 08:05:32 it's tiring and home is better than out :P Jun 19 08:05:42 mh, depends on where you go and what you dot there imho :) Jun 19 08:05:46 but true, it can be Jun 19 08:05:59 or what you've got when you get back ;) Jun 19 08:06:15 :D Jun 19 08:06:36 aw I was hoping to share access to the OBS ... Jun 19 08:06:54 the time will come eventually. Jun 19 08:06:57 : Jun 19 08:07:07 it was here... Jun 19 08:11:04 then it will return Jun 19 08:11:05 :D Jun 19 08:13:38 bbl Jun 19 08:25:46 enjoy your flight Jun 19 09:52:53 Morning, all Jun 19 14:30:08 so how do i create an account on build.meego.com for packaging apps for meego Jun 19 14:31:36 you have to wait for community obs. build.meego.com is for building the meego project Jun 19 14:31:57 ok Jun 19 14:32:12 any eta for this community obs Jun 19 14:33:17 * w00t_ is also interested Jun 19 14:33:57 amjad: there are still some minor problems with access methinks Jun 19 14:34:03 at least lbt said sth like that earlier Jun 19 14:34:24 hey guys (and girls) Jun 19 14:35:24 hello CosmoHill Jun 19 14:35:49 ancients of mumu! :) Jun 19 15:24:50 anyone with MeeGo 1.0 running on a netbook who wants to test my instructions for installing system updates? Jun 19 15:25:03 We've fixed a ton of bugs Jun 19 15:25:17 but are still testing the update process Jun 19 15:28:35 either everyone is asleep or there aren't any netbook users on irc this am :) Jun 19 15:30:04 * w00t_ is a netbook user Jun 19 15:30:06 but alas Jun 19 15:30:10 my netbook is in the wrong country.. Jun 19 15:30:34 * espen77 is also a netbook user Jun 19 15:30:52 how could you leave your netbook in another country? Jun 19 15:31:04 DawnFoster: I'm abroad for a while Jun 19 15:31:14 espen77: does it have meego 1.0 on it? Jun 19 15:31:20 DawnFoster: do you travel? Jun 19 15:31:23 DawnFoster: yes Jun 19 15:31:47 * thiago_home is waiting for his netbook Jun 19 15:32:00 espen77: want to test my update instructions and install a round of big fixes? Jun 19 15:32:07 http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_1.0_Netbook_Updates Jun 19 15:32:11 DawnFoster: sure Jun 19 15:32:15 thanks! Jun 19 15:32:52 Termana: sometimes I travel. Not as much lately. Jun 19 15:33:26 My last international trips were probably Mexico, Hong Kong & China. Jun 19 15:33:27 DawnFoster: can I ask, when you travel, do you take your house? Jun 19 15:33:36 Termana: Yes Jun 19 15:33:45 I was harassing w00t_ Jun 19 15:33:51 DawnFoster: damn it ruin the joke :P Jun 19 15:33:55 hehe Jun 19 15:34:14 DawnFoster: read somewhere that sudo -i was prefered over su Jun 19 15:34:46 DawnFoster: BTW let me know if I made a mistake following the agenda instructions.. it was quite late when I was dealing with that :) Jun 19 15:35:42 espen77: hmmm, good question on su vs. sudo -i Jun 19 15:35:57 * thiago_home receives "spam" from Dublin Jun 19 15:36:19 thiago_home: join the club Jun 19 15:36:20 offering an authentic Irish guesthouse for guests at reduced price Jun 19 15:36:22 <{Placebo}> DawnFoster: this might be a stupid question ...but ...can i also update a live system that way? :) Jun 19 15:36:25 thaigo_home - yep Jun 19 15:36:33 you guys got it too? Jun 19 15:36:40 several of us got it - she also tried to friend me on linked in Jun 19 15:37:00 I know that Stskeeps & I both got it - haven't asked Quim, Amy or Dirk Jun 19 15:37:10 * thiago_home presses the centre icon on his N900 mail reader Jun 19 15:37:12 the trash icon Jun 19 15:37:38 {Placebo}: I don't think that you can install updates on a live system that way Jun 19 15:38:09 DawnFoster: getting PackageKit is blocking zypper.....tell packagekit to quit (yes/no) Jun 19 15:38:18 yes to quit it Jun 19 15:38:35 maybe should say in wiki ;) Jun 19 15:38:58 w00t_: Thanks for adding it to the proposed tasks and agenda for the next meeting - looks good! Jun 19 15:39:07 espen77: Good point Jun 19 15:39:18 DawnFoster: NP. Now I just need to try remember to be there and participate. I have a terrible memory. ;) Jun 19 15:39:40 we have calendars for that sort of thing ;) Jun 19 15:39:43 hehe Jun 19 15:39:47 yes, I need to use mine more Jun 19 15:40:27 espen77: you got the package kit error when you tried to add the first repo, tight? Jun 19 15:40:34 oops, right? Jun 19 15:41:00 DawnFoster: yes, not for the others Jun 19 15:43:14 espen77: good. I just updated the instructions. Jun 19 15:44:05 DawnFoster: DawnFoster rest was exactly as it was written Jun 19 15:44:33 awesome, and the gui update system has kicked off your updates? Jun 19 15:45:21 DawnFoster: no, it need bigger confirmation that fits to the screen Jun 19 15:45:40 oh no! Jun 19 15:46:03 DawnFoster: can yum do it, sins you are already doing cli? Jun 19 15:46:27 espen77: so you can't see the install updates button and there is no scroll bar to get to it? Jun 19 15:46:45 what netbook do you have (need to file a bug) Jun 19 15:47:24 DawnFoster: eee 1008 Jun 19 15:47:48 espen77: what was the last thing you could see on the bottom of the screen of the update window? Jun 19 15:48:01 i can drop a screenie soewhere Jun 19 15:48:03 espen77: And do you have the system tray enabled? Jun 19 15:48:11 perfect. Jun 19 15:48:32 you can email it to me or do you want to create the bug report and upload it with the bug report? Jun 19 15:50:36 espen77: BTW, yes you can continue to install the updates at the command line with 'zypper patch' Jun 19 15:51:23 espen77: You'll need to issue 'zypper patch' a couple of times, since it runs through part of the install to get dependencies then installs the rest Jun 19 15:52:32 DawnFoster: http://yfrog.com/3uscreenshotjwp Jun 19 15:52:44 great, thanks! Jun 19 15:54:46 DawnFoster: buttons on top, or smaller fields for the boxes would fix it, or a scroll bar for the whole window Jun 19 15:55:41 yeah, definitely a bug Jun 19 15:57:13 hey DawnFoster Jun 19 15:57:58 hey CosmoHill! Jun 19 15:58:18 I got Qt to compile on my mac from command line :) Jun 19 15:58:22 espen77: Looks like we're working on this bug already: http://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2856 Jun 19 15:58:35 CosmoHill: nice! Jun 19 15:58:48 DawnFoster: just started playing with megoo...so havent gotten arround to learning a new bug system....used to launchpad... Jun 19 15:59:15 DawnFoster: there is a "this bug apply to me to" button somewhere? Jun 19 15:59:37 You can vote for it Jun 19 16:00:23 Little tiny (vote) link next to importance Jun 19 16:01:03 DawnFoster: thanx :) Jun 19 16:01:13 espen77 Did zypper patch work to get everything installed? Jun 19 16:01:36 DawnFoster: so if a lot of people have the same problem they can +1 it and have it pushed up the pile? Jun 19 16:01:55 DawnFoster: havent gotten that far yet....didnt want to do it before we found out about this bug Jun 19 16:02:14 well, it's already marked as high importance & flagged as a blocker Jun 19 16:02:30 so, I'd say it's pushed to the top of the pile already :) Jun 19 16:02:36 it's a huge issue Jun 19 16:03:04 DawnFoster: patching now Jun 19 16:03:12 espen77: No hurry. I'm going to go back and add that to the instructions Jun 19 16:03:44 deltas....how nice :) Jun 19 16:03:45 * microlith is still baffled at software -updates- requiring new package installs Jun 19 16:06:57 DawnFoster: got 3x warnings after first zypper patch (2x "failed to parse default value" and one "patch affected packet manager") Jun 19 16:08:03 I assume it kept going past the warnings? Jun 19 16:08:56 DawnFoster: the 2 warnings was for font size, and it said to run again after 3'rd warning.. Jun 19 16:10:29 I got the same warnings, but they don't seem to be serious. Now running patch again as it said... Jun 19 16:11:00 I'm also following the update instructions on my netbook MeeGo on my Eee PC 901... Jun 19 16:12:11 Sazius, great! Thanks for helping test the instructions. Jun 19 16:12:35 I just made a few updates to add the patch command and a note about the warnings: http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_1.0_Netbook_Updates Jun 19 16:22:43 DawnFoster: only one warning after secound patching "saying to reboot" Jun 19 16:23:16 espen77: good - that's what you should be seeing Jun 19 16:25:57 DawnFoster: just reporting everything....that was it....nothing to do for a 3'rd run. Jun 19 16:26:41 great! Jun 19 16:27:09 I've been really happy with a lot of the updates - it fixed a few things that had been annoying me. Jun 19 16:27:12 * CosmoHill is watching a car chase between a flat bed lorry and a herse Jun 19 16:27:45 * Jaffa ponders whether to spend ages reporting loads of MeeGo 1.0 Netbook bugs (probably already there); play with Qt on MeeGo/Linux/Maemo or spend time with littlest and wait for Doctor Who. Jun 19 16:28:24 why not do all of them? ;) Jun 19 16:28:46 Jaffa: teach your littlest how to find meego 1.0 netbook bugs Jun 19 16:28:55 in the meantime, you'll report them Jun 19 16:28:59 and you both wait for doctor who? Jun 19 16:30:00 DawnFoster: "http://www.linuxscrew.com/2007/10/11/why-use-sudo-instead-of-su/" Jun 19 16:31:12 Jaffa, last. Jun 19 16:32:49 Given that most linux installations are single user ones, i don't see the need for sudo tbh Jun 19 16:33:20 th0br0: running as root is bad.... Jun 19 16:33:28 you never have to run as root Jun 19 16:33:42 th0br0 / espen77: yeah, when I was a sys admin for boxes doing real stuff, I was a big fan of sudo - on single user netbooks, it's less of an issue Jun 19 16:33:44 but as in most cases you know the root password anyway, why not use it... Jun 19 16:33:49 yep DawnFoster Jun 19 16:33:58 you definitely have to differentiate there, but yah... Jun 19 16:36:03 if you run as user and use su you tend to sometimes run commands not requiering root access as root to...while sudo is issued per command needing root Jun 19 16:36:28 sudo is an unlimited count of characters more than just running a simple su - Jun 19 16:36:40 s/unlimited count/uncountable amount/ Jun 19 16:36:40 th0br0 meant: sudo is an uncountable amount of characters more than just running a simple su - Jun 19 16:40:15 * Stskeeps makes a note to himself his wife looks really good in a MeeGo tshirt Jun 19 16:40:22 +that Jun 19 16:41:48 there are MeeGo tshirts already o.O Jun 19 16:41:49 ? Jun 19 16:43:03 I need to do something about script kiddies Jun 19 16:43:11 yeah Jun 19 16:43:16 * thiago_home got two in the OSTS Jun 19 16:43:23 some people got them in the collab summit Jun 19 16:43:28 OSTS? Jun 19 16:43:36 DawnFoster: do you know if any are being shipped to Akademy, in two weeks? Jun 19 16:43:37 * w00t_ demands a tshirt :< Jun 19 16:43:42 are they like stickers, do you have to turn up to a sumit to get them? Jun 19 16:43:43 We're making more shirts / stickers soon Jun 19 16:43:47 ah cool ;) Jun 19 16:43:56 th0br0: internal Intel meeting that lots of Nokians were invited to Jun 19 16:43:59 Doubt we'll have any at Akademy Jun 19 16:44:03 ah ok thiago_home Jun 19 16:44:09 if I hada sticker I'd put it on my powerbook and confuse people Jun 19 16:44:14 designs look really nice at least, kudos for the people who made them Jun 19 16:44:15 aht are the final dates for the conference btw? Jun 19 16:44:22 The meego confence should have shirts Jun 19 16:44:25 Nov 15 − 19 Jun 19 16:44:32 w00t_, got one medium. $100 USD? :P Jun 19 16:44:38 http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_Conference_2010 Jun 19 16:44:47 oops, 15 − 17 (typo) Jun 19 16:44:50 that's too far away :-) Jun 19 16:45:10 mhk... too bad that it's during the week :( Jun 19 16:45:18 don't think i'll be able to come. Jun 19 16:45:47 GAN900: that's annoyingly tempting. Jun 19 16:46:03 http://www.flickr.com/photos/geekygirldawn/4505576032 Jun 19 16:46:05 looks good Jun 19 16:46:10 w00t_, ahaha Jun 19 16:46:15 Only worn once! Jun 19 16:47:00 I've also got an XL Fixed in Fremantle shirt. Jun 19 16:47:23 I'd not be able to wear that really, I wasn't around much pre-F Jun 19 16:47:47 we should come up with a new 'MaemoMeeGo is Open' design Jun 19 16:49:42 :D Jun 19 16:54:13 w00t_, somebody needs to get timsamoff's enthusiasm level up again, then. Jun 19 16:55:27 th0br0: I use Ubuntu Netbook Remix with different users for me, my wife and eldest. Jun 19 16:57:01 There are way better ideas for Meego tshirt designs... Jun 19 16:57:28 RST38h, such as? Jun 19 16:57:37 a moment Jun 19 16:58:25 Here is a good MeeGo mascot: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mi-go Jun 19 16:59:06 huh, lovecraft Jun 19 17:00:39 Also, refer to this image: http://www.hamsterizer.com/Art/images/Items/MiGo01b.jpg Jun 19 17:00:52 Here you can see the frontend, also known as UI, supplied by Nokia Jun 19 17:00:57 Yes, it is pink. Jun 19 17:01:35 The backend is obviously supplied by Intel, as evidenced by its age and the number of callouses Jun 19 17:02:17 Sharp parts have been borrowed from RedHat. Jun 19 17:03:24 GAN900: *g* Jun 19 17:05:50 :D Jun 19 17:07:10 redhat you say Jun 19 17:14:40 of course, CosmoHill... Jun 19 17:17:40 Is Poulsbo the evil graphics processor? Jun 19 17:20:24 Poulsbo is not a graphics processor Jun 19 17:20:25 but it is evil? Jun 19 17:20:25 It is a netbook south cluster Jun 19 17:20:25 Of course it is evil. Jun 19 17:29:41 http://www.archos.com/products/nb/archos_10/specs.html?country=gb&lang=en << looks meego compatable Jun 19 17:33:57 plus I have work experience at uni with computers and cisco gear Jun 19 17:41:13 didn't know that archos doing netbooks now, too Jun 19 17:41:25 they have done at least one Jun 19 17:41:29 mh Jun 19 17:41:41 there are betters out there than the one CosmoHill just posted though Jun 19 17:41:52 s/betters/better ones/ Jun 19 17:41:53 th0br0 meant: there are better ones out there than the one CosmoHill just posted though Jun 19 17:41:58 ... my english sucks today. Jun 19 17:42:08 meh, mine sucks most of the time Jun 19 17:42:34 oo that reminds me, I got 84% for a 1300 word essay I did over the weekend :D Jun 19 17:44:21 gosh, why are they honking... there isn't even any game going on right now Jun 19 17:44:57 I'm gonna see if I can get a button to do something in Qt Jun 19 19:04:02 I'm trying to build image, but: Jun 19 19:04:02 Error: failed to create image : URLGrabber error: [Errno 14] HTTP Error 404 : http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/devel/trunk/repo/arm/os/repodata/repomd.xml : http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/devel/trunk/repo/arm/os/repodata/repomd.xml Jun 19 19:04:09 is it temporary? Jun 19 19:06:12 no, they moved around the URLs after codedrop Jun 19 19:06:23 we're working on a 1.0 closed image still, facing some problems with BME Jun 19 19:08:54 will handhel ui appear this month? Jun 19 19:10:36 hopefully Jun 19 19:11:03 Stskeeps: does that mean, that MeeGo development is now closed? Jun 19 19:11:12 smoku: no Jun 19 19:11:20 smoku: it is still there but under a different repo url Jun 19 19:11:23 sec Jun 19 19:12:23 http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/0.9/0.9.80.3.20100518.1/core/repos/armv5tjel/packages/ Jun 19 19:13:02 Stskeeps: is there a .ks for this? Jun 19 19:13:25 no, just edit yours Jun 19 19:13:58 is it possible that app written for netbook ui could work (although not having optimal interface) by just compiling for handhel ui, or is there some 'common denominator' in qt to have same codebase working on desktop/netbook/handheld? Jun 19 19:18:59 Stskeeps: it's running now. thanks :) Jun 19 19:19:31 np Jun 19 19:22:26 so, now I have to relearn writing SPECs :/ Jun 19 19:24:03 saw my hildon port? Jun 19 19:24:14 no Jun 19 19:24:32 hrm, sec Jun 19 19:25:02 http://lists.meego.com/pipermail/meego-dev/2010-June/003201.html Jun 19 19:25:09 would love someone following up on that.. at least that's a basis Jun 19 19:25:34 count me in Jun 19 19:25:49 I just ordered XT720 :) Jun 19 19:25:54 i don't plan on doing anything further with it, but wouldn't mind seeing some work around it Jun 19 19:26:46 i'm subscribed to meego-dev, but there's so much noise there I don't have strength to follow Jun 19 19:27:56 gour, baseline qt is buildable on each of the platforms, however its the UX of your app that will make the difference to usability. Jun 19 19:28:18 and obviously the devices have dfferent capabilities Jun 19 19:32:23 does anyone know what's wrong? http://pastebin.com/aGtdXcGi Jun 19 19:37:03 lcuk: my intention is to write desktop app and 'lite' & portable version for handheld, i.e. not trying to target netbook...in that case i wouldn't need to buy netbook device, but just using desktop for development and testing app via simulator until there will be some new meego device or successor to n900 Jun 19 19:38:00 there will be Jun 19 19:38:07 * thiago_home has been playing with it in the office Jun 19 19:38:43 thiago_home: :PPPP Jun 19 19:38:53 they finally sent us some batteries Jun 19 19:39:00 it was lying in a drawer for two weeks Jun 19 19:39:09 lol Jun 19 19:39:47 welcome to the corporate world... where the left hand isn't talking to the right hand, because the left hand is busy jacking off. :P Jun 19 19:39:49 thiago_home: this year? Jun 19 19:40:02 gour: you know better than to ask that :-) Jun 19 19:40:12 too bad there's a chain connecting it to the frame of the building Jun 19 19:40:17 says the man baiting the people in the channel Jun 19 19:40:20 :P Jun 19 19:40:31 thiago_home: not until we see handhel ui released :-D Jun 19 19:41:26 eep battery finally died Jun 19 19:41:45 is thejoojooforum.com down? Jun 19 19:42:04 oops, wrong channel! Jun 19 19:53:10 Error: Please specify main repo name using --mainrepo option. Jun 19 19:53:11 ? Jun 19 19:57:28 no wonder moblin/meego has so low traction Jun 19 19:57:48 one has to be VERY determined even to build a default image Jun 19 19:58:08 with this mic python crap :/ Jun 19 19:58:09 mic2 is .. interesting Jun 19 19:58:12 and i tend to agree Jun 19 19:58:49 looking forward to OBS hurdles :/ Jun 19 20:00:09 i'm giving it another half of ballantine's Jun 19 20:01:49 what OS are you running mic2 on? Jun 19 20:02:12 Arch Linux Jun 19 20:02:22 is there a log of what it tried to do? Jun 19 20:04:52 python is so nice. I added prints to debug the problem, and... no output. only the error line changed Jun 19 20:05:48 heh Jun 19 20:43:29 hi y'all, just about to download Meego ... which version is better for user experience and extension? Meego Chrome version or Meego ordinary version? Jun 19 20:48:27 i'll get them both, then install one and see if i like it. Jun 19 21:01:43 bye dudes, ttyl Jun 19 21:05:04 hi Jun 19 21:05:26 anyone already working with the qt nokia sdk and programming for n900? Jun 19 21:06:09 I wonder how I can reproduce the settings widget that scrolls in from the bottom screen, like in n900's program manager. Jun 19 21:06:19 should probably ask in maemo, hm? :) Jun 19 21:06:53 try an icon view Jun 19 21:07:57 alright. never heard of that, will read about it Jun 19 21:10:45 thiago_home: Q3IconView? guess not hm? Jun 19 21:11:15 no Q3 in Maemo or MeeGo Jun 19 21:11:36 QListView, with an icon mode set Jun 19 21:13:44 my question was more on how I get a widget thats a child widget of my mainwindow, to bahave like those widgets on n900 that appear to scroll in from the bottom Jun 19 21:14:08 like the catalogues settings from n900's program manager Jun 19 21:16:39 a list view or widget Jun 19 21:18:17 a widget Jun 19 21:20:41 just booting up my new Acer Aspire One 532H into Windows 7 ... for the first and only time Jun 19 21:20:47 * brokendatapoint drools for Meego Jun 19 21:24:07 ahhh Jun 19 21:24:16 found the documentation: http://doc.qt.nokia.com/qt-maemo-4.6/examples-maemo5.html Jun 19 21:24:20 sorry :) Jun 19 21:24:30 Goliath23: you learning Qt? Jun 19 21:26:46 where can I download MeeGo to test it on my desktop (AMD)? Jun 19 21:26:46 CosmoHill: nah. not really. it's something I look into now and then if I have the time. Jun 19 21:27:06 they are only intel-atom or ARM Jun 19 21:27:09 fengshaun: come back in a year or 2, we might have AMD support by then Jun 19 21:27:21 ah, thanks! Jun 19 21:27:35 but the Qt SDK for maemo has gotten really good. the remote deplayment works really fine! Jun 19 21:27:44 I hope they keep all that with meego Jun 19 21:28:01 I rather doubt it would just be thrown out the window :) Jun 19 21:28:07 Hi, is the meego netbook image supposed to work only on certain netbooks ? I tried to load it into virtualbox and it freezes during boot. any ideas if I can run it in a VM ? Jun 19 21:28:28 benno2: it won't work in a virtual machine due to the 3D requirments Jun 19 21:29:13 hello everyone. iam trying to dual boot meego with my installed linuxmint. can anyone tell me how. Jun 19 21:29:17 CosmoHill, thanks. and can it work on a dell latitude with nvidia 3d chip ? Jun 19 21:29:24 nope Jun 19 21:29:30 Nvidia isn't supported yet Jun 19 21:29:31 benno2: not unless you shoehorn nvidia drivers inside it Jun 19 21:31:39 CosmoHill, w00t_ thanks for the info. so is it possible to add nvidia drivers with some trick ? any howto ? what is the "officially" supported gfx driver by the meego image? Jun 19 21:32:03 I've not been able to get nvidia working Jun 19 21:32:18 w00t_: lets hope so. I mean. the SDK now creates .deb's automatically. meego is rpm, right? Jun 19 21:32:24 apparently http://www.madeo.co.uk/?p=87 is supposed to work Jun 19 21:32:25 any1. help me fix wireless with compaq mini110c with meego Jun 19 21:32:25 and as far as I know there isn't anyone who has yet Jun 19 21:32:34 w00t_: at least that has to be rewritten Jun 19 21:32:36 someone has made a meego image for QEMU Jun 19 21:32:40 Goliath23: the two aren't all that different Jun 19 21:32:47 benno2: http://www.madeo.co.uk/?p=87 was at you btw Jun 19 21:32:47 w00t_: true Jun 19 21:32:50 docboy: broadcom? Jun 19 21:33:17 yes, i cant install the broadcom driver Jun 19 21:33:18 w00t_: iirc that's what I tried and it didn't work Jun 19 21:34:28 thanks w00t_ ! wondering why meego does not support nvidia. at least it would be easier for developers to try it out since nvidia is widely in use. Jun 19 21:34:29 cosmohill: yes broadcom? Jun 19 21:34:32 CosmoHill: well, someone on the ML got it working, so. Jun 19 21:35:04 docboy: http://slaine.org/_slaine/Meego_1.0_Wifi.html Jun 19 21:35:19 Hi, I am following this document http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/Meego_chroot_install_on_N900 and there is "Unpack the Meego image", where can I find this image? Is it meego-n900-open-armv7l-1.0.0.20100525.1-sda.raw.bz2 ? Jun 19 21:35:21 benno2: pretty sure it's because the drivers are nonredistributable, and the main DE requires 3D acceleration - so there's no way (for now) to prompt people to set it up. Jun 19 21:36:09 cosmohill: yah ive tried that and followed. but the the last step is to download the driver. always failed. Jun 19 21:36:29 docboy: step 6? Jun 19 21:37:13 cosmohill: ya, its the last step to download and install the driver. Jun 19 21:37:25 link works for me Jun 19 21:37:39 cosmohill: is there any other way to do that? Jun 19 21:38:21 I could host the file if you're having trouble getting it Jun 19 21:38:37 cosmohill: are you running dual boot? or just meego on your netbook.. Jun 19 21:38:48 I don't run meego at all Jun 19 21:39:05 benno2: i do not know the real reason but am guessing because Meego is a project between Intel and Nokia, then Intel-based onboard graphics and CPU's will be first priority. Also makes continuity of development initially more simple and reliable. Jun 19 21:39:57 netbook works fine, now to kill Windows and install Meego... Jun 19 21:40:38 cosmohill: i installed is 3x and i always failed to fix wifi connection. now iam using linuxmint again. Jun 19 21:41:35 any comments on Meego with the Chromium browser? Jun 19 21:42:13 bit leaky? Jun 19 21:43:42 screen door on a submarine leaky Jun 19 21:43:57 k, hmm, might try the other Meego first Jun 19 21:45:47 can any one tell me if meego is working ok. Jun 19 21:46:24 brokendatapoint, thanks for the infos. but interesting that they use the chromium browser. google makes android which is probably the main competitor to meego. why support google by including their browser in meego ? Jun 19 21:48:30 not giving an easy way to a large number of developers to try out and run meego on a broad range of hardware is IMHO not such a good move. not all devs are going to buy new hw only to play with meego only to discover that it does not suit their needs. Jun 19 21:48:35 NFI other than it is light, open source (sort of) and is 100% net focussed as opposed to a stripped down full-system browser Jun 19 21:49:21 benno2: i'm with you, have a fancy, high-speed ATI CPU/Nvidia GPU system ... can't use it for Meego ... so I bought a Netbook 8-) Jun 19 21:50:06 * brokendatapoint remembers why he hates Windows ... stupid anti-virus apps/notifications Jun 19 21:50:20 chrome is fast, so it should be good on a computer that isn't powerful Jun 19 21:50:37 brokendatapoint, yes. strange. so one has to look for etbooks with intel chipset ? did you look at the audio system ? is that already working (pulse audio server etc) ? Jun 19 21:50:58 the reason meego only supports intel at the moment is because it's intel developing it Jun 19 21:51:21 they don't have AMD or Nvidia hardware at their disposal to develop on Jun 19 21:51:44 CosmoHill: as i thought Jun 19 21:53:32 CosmoHill: I don't think Intel have a problem getting AMD or NVidia h/w ;-) Jun 19 21:54:57 using image-writer to write a meego.img to USB stick ... is an awfully long 2 mins 40 secs... Jun 19 21:57:45 Jaffa: yeah then they actually have to pay for it :p Jun 19 22:04:33 is a usb stick a USB FDD or a USB HDD? Jun 19 22:04:54 usually usb hdd Jun 19 22:05:08 satmd: thanks, will try that Jun 19 22:06:51 it will come up as /dev/sdX Jun 19 22:13:03 CosmoHill: this was in conntext of boot device priority in netbook Setup utility, not onboard a functioning linux system Jun 19 22:13:14 but thanks anyway! Jun 19 22:13:23 oh my bad Jun 19 22:14:17 CosmoHill: no matter, what you upto? my Meego is installing... Jun 19 22:15:49 I'm watching family guy and about to do some push ups Jun 19 22:16:14 haha cool Jun 19 22:19:23 I just remembered, I was meant to become a irc server admin a few weeks ago Jun 19 22:19:43 doing post-install setup => re Creat User, what does "Encrypt data" mean? encrypt the adduser info or the entire drive data? Jun 19 22:20:21 I think it would be /home Jun 19 22:20:57 ah, would you recommend encrypt? Jun 19 22:21:18 last time I did that I forgot the password Jun 19 22:21:27 haha, whoops Jun 19 22:21:52 it would depends on how long you plan to keep meego on your drive and what data you plan to keep on it Jun 19 22:22:04 i'll do it to see how it goes, can only generate more crack backtraces for the /devs Jun 19 22:22:08 my mac is my personal every day computer and has 5 years of my life on it Jun 19 22:22:32 my windows laptop is just used for work and has pretty much nothing about me on it Jun 19 22:22:35 meego: forever data: nothing special, all *serious* stuff is offline Jun 19 22:24:02 wow, a fully functional Meego in 33 mins ... with sound, awesome!!!! Jun 19 22:24:13 damn you Jun 19 22:24:20 do you know how long it took me? Jun 19 22:24:33 you are not using it, saw your post above Jun 19 22:24:50 correct Jun 19 22:25:05 that's how long it took me to get meego working Jun 19 22:25:15 haha, so why you here? Jun 19 22:25:26 cos I'm interested in meego Jun 19 22:25:51 I want to learn more about desktop services for linux and GUI Jun 19 22:25:52 fair enough, in what capacity? user/dev/vendor Jun 19 22:25:57 ah k Jun 19 22:26:25 also to gain experience at being in a larger community than I'm used to Jun 19 22:27:22 I need to see if I can grab a Core 2 computer from uni Jun 19 22:28:36 you in the US? Jun 19 22:28:40 nope Jun 19 22:28:54 in a "western" nation? Jun 19 22:29:33 yes Jun 19 22:29:54 you're to me west (assuming your american) Jun 19 22:30:02 Kiwi Jun 19 22:30:46 there's an easy way to find out Jun 19 22:31:00 I am a Kiwi ... New Zealand Jun 19 22:31:15 ah okay, my bad Jun 19 22:31:38 in fruit terms, I'm a limey Jun 19 22:32:35 hahaha, Pom, there should be many IBM/Intel-based systems in your neck of the woods to buy to run Meego Jun 19 22:33:03 yeah but they cost money Jun 19 22:33:28 i paid $NZD930 for this Aspire One 532h, a 2GB SODIMM stick and a carry bag ... a second-hand Intel Core 2 would have been cheaper Jun 19 22:35:12 I'm quiet lucky Jun 19 22:35:23 I live off decent hand my downs / throw outs Jun 19 22:35:54 quite* not quiet, sorry am pedantic about English Jun 19 22:36:18 that's alright, helps me improve Jun 19 22:36:23 else it will sound like some mangled patois from Africa etc Jun 19 22:36:38 are you a Brit, or just living there? Jun 19 22:36:53 I am british Jun 19 22:37:01 great! Jun 19 22:37:08 indeed Jun 19 22:37:55 I think we scared everyone into being quiet Jun 19 22:38:40 haha, hmm is night time for the Yanks now, date/time where you are? Jun 19 22:38:52 erm Jun 19 22:38:59 late afternoon for american Jun 19 22:39:20 haha, my bad, at the bottom of the world, we forget stuff like that Jun 19 22:39:42 just write down "yesterday" Jun 19 22:39:50 yeah Jun 19 22:42:44 right, i have to go and see a man about a job, enjoy! Jun 19 22:43:52 good luck Jun 19 22:47:31 CosmoHill: thanks Jun 19 22:47:46 * brokendatapoint is *gone* Jun 19 23:42:03 is there any way I can test meego with qemu? I couldn't find any pointers in the wiki Jun 19 23:43:13 I've seen something about ARM7 on QEMU Jun 19 23:43:50 someone also made a meego image for QEMU Jun 19 23:43:51 http://www.neopeek.com/de/stories/meego/85-meego-10-gui-qemu Jun 19 23:44:23 CosmoHill: thanks a lot! Jun 19 23:46:08 cool! Just what I wanted! Jun 19 23:47:08 i think i also heard that you can use the SDK on systems that support SSSE3 and have an ATi graphics card Jun 19 23:53:23 tomorrow I'll have a go at booting meego on one of my things Jun 19 23:53:35 for now I'll sleep, cyas **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Jun 20 02:59:56 2010