**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jul 14 02:59:56 2010 Jul 14 05:49:08 * halton hello Jul 14 05:49:19 hello there :) Jul 14 05:49:26 hah. Jul 14 05:49:57 remember I asked last night if the subpages are enabled in the wiki? well as someone noted at the mailing list, it's not Jul 14 05:50:07 i thought they were Jul 14 05:50:23 http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900 Jul 14 05:50:28 spot the < ARM Jul 14 05:51:07 ah, I was looking on my mobile phone browser. my bad Jul 14 05:51:33 someone needs to do categorizing though Jul 14 05:53:00 oh crikey, I got up from bed too quick Jul 14 05:53:06 head hums Jul 14 05:55:51 'aaarrggghhh, Audible is having a sale :-( Jul 14 05:56:25 hello.. I'm getting this error http://pastebin.ca/1900289 while building rootfs for BeagleBoard. I'm on ubuntu-9.10. Any clues? Jul 14 05:57:02 you'll want to use -f raw Jul 14 05:57:08 not --format=fs Jul 14 05:57:57 thanks Stskeeps Jul 14 06:02:20 Stskeeps: it failed again with same error i.e 'AttributeError: "LiveCDYum' object has no attribute 'arch'" Jul 14 06:02:41 pundiramit: you'll have less pain trying from a fedora VM :/ Jul 14 06:02:51 is this mic2 from git? Jul 14 06:03:00 Stskeeps: why is the MIC2 keep taking "image_format=livecd" it should be taking raw I guess Jul 14 06:03:06 yes its from git Jul 14 06:03:39 i tried with all the recent checkouts i.e 0.17, 0.18, 0.19 but got same error Jul 14 06:05:40 Stskeeps: you said fedora VM.. am I suppose to run all the instructions from a Scratchbox or Virtualbox like environment? I thought it will work like bitbake/openembedded recipes. Jul 14 06:05:56 no, fedora vm is just because we know mic2 performs there )P Jul 14 06:05:58 =P Jul 14 06:06:42 mic2 basically downloads rpms, extracts them, makes images Jul 14 06:08:45 HI! Jul 14 06:10:24 Stskeeps: ok that means downloading pre-compiled rpms for your ARCH and creating images.. but what if I want to CROSS_COMPILE any package, lets say custom kernel, on my host machine.. how will I do that? From where can I get the toolchain? Is it possible? Jul 14 06:11:31 pundiramit: best way to do it is to set up your own OBS or look into the 'build' tool Jul 14 06:15:55 Stskeeps: cool OBS looks good.. surprisingly never heard of it before :(.. one final question before I go back and try it again, what do you recommend, OBS or MIC2 on fedora? Jul 14 06:16:31 OBS is for building packages. mic2 is for generating images Jul 14 06:16:52 meego isn't built from source each time you build an image :) Jul 14 06:17:26 Stskeeps: too bad Jul 14 06:17:39 it could do wonders for making the image production time worse :) Jul 14 06:19:42 Stskeeps: ohhh.. got it now.. thanks :) Jul 14 06:20:48 timeless_mbp: qt alone would be a bitch Jul 14 06:20:48 :P Jul 14 06:22:28 Stskeeps: in 1999 there was a time when i built one of Gtk or Qt every morning Jul 14 06:22:30 around 4am Jul 14 06:22:37 gtk was relatively cheap Jul 14 06:22:40 Qt was *not* Jul 14 06:22:50 i gave up building Qt daily and cached it Jul 14 06:23:19 in case people are wondering, my computer was a university machine w/ a 25mb homedir quota but lots of space in /tmp Jul 14 06:23:34 (which was deleted every morning at 4am when the boxes rebooted) Jul 14 06:23:48 so every day i'd download gecko and build it from scratch :) Jul 14 06:24:23 actually that might have been 2000 Jul 14 06:38:46 timeless_mbp: kind of hurting there Jul 14 06:38:48 heh Jul 14 06:42:12 Macer: it wasn't bad, i stayed up until 4, started a process, went to sleep Jul 14 06:42:16 when i woke up, the build was done Jul 14 06:42:37 (well, for the Xt, or Gtk case. for the Qt case, things sucked a lot more) Jul 14 06:46:42 well, building Qt builds more than just the Qt libraries Jul 14 06:51:58 hello Jul 14 06:52:14 * tripzero trolls Jul 14 06:54:42 speaking of trolls... Jul 14 06:55:52 so. any timeline on when meego will be beta for n900? Jul 14 06:56:03 the vids look nice Jul 14 06:56:28 if it is anything like maemo with actual portrait mode then it is definately worthwhile Jul 14 06:56:31 MacDrunk, link? Jul 14 06:56:42 Macer link? Jul 14 06:56:54 * tripzero grumbles about tab-complete fail Jul 14 06:57:08 wouldnt still have it. just went on youtube and searched for meego on n900 Jul 14 06:57:18 * tripzero searches Jul 14 06:57:29 one has someone using the pre alpha ui :) Jul 14 06:57:45 it looked like it was getting somewhere Jul 14 06:58:18 probably wont be usable until the n910 is out but we will see heh Jul 14 06:58:43 hopefully they just dont abandon the n900 otherwise i am never buying another nokia ever :) Jul 14 06:59:32 lol Jul 14 06:59:43 don't expect miracles Jul 14 07:00:09 it's like still holding out that people will still make games for the ps2 Jul 14 07:00:29 nokia will come out with a better phone Jul 14 07:00:33 and it'll run meego better Jul 14 07:00:39 that's how businesses work Jul 14 07:02:04 there's a really negative profit-to-effort ratio on porting new software to an old and rather obscure device Jul 14 07:03:20 especially if you consider that they probably want to maximize their efforts making the next product awesome Jul 14 07:04:00 but they did promise to keep maintaining and updating maemo Jul 14 07:04:19 and if they fix libmeegotouch on fremantle, then you can run meego apps too! Jul 14 07:05:07 which is "good enough for me" :) Jul 14 07:33:47 * Myrtti whistles Jul 14 07:51:13 * lbt starts a counterpoint tap on the desk Jul 14 07:53:03 help Jul 14 07:53:25 sabreman: it's easier to ask a question first, - if you're in danger, i would call the authorities instead of asking on a IRC channel :) Jul 14 07:53:49 :D Jul 14 07:59:53 lbt: when MeeGo target will be available on community OBS ? Jul 14 08:04:44 fabo: I started the download on sunday morning... the meego repo appears to offer a blazingly slow 50kbs Jul 14 08:04:54 and 16G.... Jul 14 08:05:30 * fabo isn't suprised ... Jul 14 08:05:35 so despite having set aside all sunday to do it ... I'll have to look at that tonight Jul 14 08:05:40 sorry Jul 14 08:05:53 np Jul 14 08:05:57 Hmm we might want to see if we can get an alternative way in then. Jul 14 08:06:12 Because that is just bad. Jul 14 08:06:13 X-Fade: yes... there's a kernel.org mirror Jul 14 08:06:19 which is a little better Jul 14 08:06:33 but also Nokia mirror this too Jul 14 08:06:47 so I'd like to leech of theirs (or vice versa) Jul 14 08:07:21 We should really get that repo on a proper CDN :) Jul 14 08:07:51 you know stephano ? Jul 14 08:08:01 Yes Jul 14 08:08:19 add it to his todo list when he goes over Jul 14 08:08:22 :D Jul 14 08:10:56 does the intel X driver support starting multiple X sessions? Jul 14 08:11:08 * thiago is getting: (EE) intel(0): [drm] failed to set drm interface version. Jul 14 08:11:13 MeeGo 1.0.1 Jul 14 09:07:18 Morning, all Jul 14 09:39:03 * thiago now running Plasma-netbook on MeeGo Jul 14 09:46:03 Hi, all! Jul 14 09:46:31 I have my own OBS instance, now how can I add/mirror/clone MeeGo repo? Jul 14 09:50:18 at 50kb/s, it seems like Jul 14 09:50:19 :P Jul 14 09:50:44 Just mirrored from kernel.org at great speads. Jul 14 09:50:56 *speeds Jul 14 09:51:28 http://mirrors.kernel.org/meego/ Jul 14 10:00:20 BTW, http://wiki.meego.com/Build_Infrastructure/Sysadmin_Distro/OBS1.8_setup_openSUSE112 at cloning repositories indicates that I should execute: osc -A http://api.meego.com meta prj Trunk prj.txt but api.meego.com needs credentials that I haven't, so where can I register to? Jul 14 10:01:14 Currently it is not possible to register to api.meego.com. Jul 14 10:01:28 which is the meego OBS api url. Jul 14 10:01:29 Sage: then, how can I clone meego repo? Jul 14 10:01:44 using OBS, of course Jul 14 10:02:45 Well, I'm not sure if you can currently do that with OBS. You can get the rpm package from daily repo though. Jul 14 10:03:55 Sage: well, then how can I use an own OBS to build MeeGo? Jul 14 10:04:02 fcocuadrado: We're working on cloning this way: http://wiki.maemo.org/OpenSuse_Build_Service/MeeGo_Setup Jul 14 10:04:21 fcocuadrado: That is what we do for the community OBS atm. Jul 14 10:05:05 X-Fade: then, I have to use this script Jul 14 10:05:13 X-Fade: thanks Jul 14 10:05:49 It is basically downloading the repo and importing it in your local obs instance. Jul 14 10:06:09 fcocuadrado: Hi Jul 14 10:06:18 X-Fade: yes, I see it Jul 14 10:07:03 That should work for now at least, but I agree it is not the friendliest way. Jul 14 10:07:05 fcocuadrado: currently I set -A to my local OBS and it works. Jul 14 10:07:38 copyleft: I don't know what you are saying Jul 14 10:12:09 fcocuadrado: Yes like X-Fade says, clone the repository by http://wiki.maemo.org/OpenSuse_Build_Service/MeeGo_Setup first Jul 14 10:12:29 ok Jul 14 10:15:21 X-Fade: I'm still having the local build problem. Even using the community beta OBS. :( python-urlgrabber fails to get packages from the OBS api. It still got a HTTP auth error. Jul 14 10:15:56 copyleft: We don't have everything imported yet. Jul 14 10:17:32 X-Fade: by the browser, I can fetch a package from the api like https://apiurl/build/MeeGo:1.0:Core/standard/i586/_repository/acl Jul 14 10:19:13 X-Fade: but on MeeGo 1.0 SDK, "osc build" command fails to do it. Jul 14 10:20:33 copyleft: Correct api url in osc config? Jul 14 10:22:36 X-Fade: yes it's correct. (osc ls/ osc co get correct result). But pdb shows http 401 error when running urlgrabber. Jul 14 10:23:40 X-Fade: Debugging for a few days :p I'm not a good python programmer. Jul 14 10:27:04 BTW, is there a guide to learn how to manage an OBS? Jul 14 10:27:25 The only difference I know now is , osc build is correct when running on python 2.5, but fails on python 2.6 Jul 14 10:28:33 Perhaps I can install python 2.5 into MeeGo SDK chroot to see if it works. Jul 14 10:47:17 X-Fade: BTW, on the community OBS, it looks like the xen machine fails to boot. Would you please check it? http://pastebin.ca/1900376 Jul 14 10:47:35 X-Fade: Is it the correct place here to report it? :) Jul 14 10:49:13 copyleft: Hmm I have seen this before some time ago. But then went away again. Jul 14 10:49:18 I wonder what happens there. Jul 14 10:50:35 copyleft: Does it happen again when you retrigger the build? Jul 14 10:51:24 X-Fade: yes I retrigger it once. Jul 14 10:51:37 X-Fade: Let me try again. Jul 14 10:52:00 copyleft: I'll monitor the livelog. Jul 14 10:53:33 X-Fade: Thanks, building. Jul 14 10:53:36 Ok, same issue. Jul 14 10:54:58 copyleft: can you try again? Jul 14 10:55:47 X-Fade: It's kind of slow connect from here. :p Ok trigger again. Jul 14 10:56:15 Hmm no luck. Jul 14 10:56:29 Ok, will try to find out what is happening here. Jul 14 10:57:41 X-Fade: Thanks. I'm new to OBS. If I bring any trouble please just correct me :p Jul 14 10:57:54 copyleft: No, this is not you :) Jul 14 12:33:22 hi! Jul 14 12:33:44 i'm trying to build an meego-image for my n900 Jul 14 12:34:27 but... i've got the latest mic-image-creator from git... but it always says "mic-image-creator: error: no such option: --run-mode" - anyone a solution? Jul 14 12:34:27 skyscraper: nice! Jul 14 12:34:41 ohh Jul 14 12:34:59 I tried it yesterday for building beagle board image, and it worked without any problem Jul 14 12:35:21 followed this wiki page: http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/Meego_on_Beagleboard_from_scratch Jul 14 12:35:43 i've tried this: http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=757 Jul 14 12:36:30 but mic-image-creator dont know the --run-mode and the --save-kernel parameter Jul 14 12:38:00 and i had a bit problems installing python-cElementTree - because using xubuntu 10.04 - cant apt-get install python-celementtree Jul 14 12:38:22 yes i also has the same problem for python-celementtree Jul 14 12:38:50 i've installed python2.6 - and xubuntu says this installs python-celementtree, too Jul 14 12:38:54 I directly installed it from: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/14411913/python-celementtree_1.0.5-10_i386.deb Jul 14 12:39:37 hm... i need x64 Jul 14 12:40:35 http://altruistic.lbl.gov/mirrors/ubuntu/pool/universe/c/celementtree/python-celementtree-dbg_1.0.5-10_amd64.deb ?^ Jul 14 12:40:57 oh http://altruistic.lbl.gov/mirrors/ubuntu/pool/universe/c/celementtree/python-celementtree_1.0.5-10_amd64.deb Jul 14 12:42:51 hm# Jul 14 12:42:55 thats not the problem Jul 14 12:43:11 rebuilded mic now... - but same error Jul 14 12:44:53 loool Jul 14 12:45:01 searched the history of this chan... Jul 14 12:45:42 "/usr/bin/python -t /usr/bin/mic-image-creator --run-mode=0 --cache=mycachedir --format=raw --arch=armv7l --save-kernel --config=meego-handset-armv7l-n900-nokia-closed-1.0.80.8.20100630.ks" -- worked for mee Jul 14 12:46:57 so maybe... i can try meego on n900 in a few minutes :D Jul 14 12:50:37 skyscraper: if you are dealing with meego on n900 then I guess meego-arm chat room is better than meego Jul 14 12:51:00 okay... dont know it before :D Jul 14 12:54:41 argh Jul 14 12:54:51 is there a nokia-flasher3.5 for amd64? Jul 14 12:56:32 no idea, better check out in meego-arm room Jul 14 13:17:16 Hello Jul 14 13:34:52 Why Meego Project does not provide alternative downloads by .torrent ? The way to download Meego now is *amazingly SLOW* and unreliable; using BitTorrent protocol would be better for data integrity and speed Jul 14 13:35:46 also please update the page for downloading Meego with Chrome browser (http://goo.gl/9uAp), it needs a MD5 sum: fields like the page without Chrome browser Jul 14 13:35:53 *field Jul 14 13:36:13 I'd suggest mailing meego-dev, IRC is a lot easier to not notice/remember things on Jul 14 13:37:38 or better yet, Jul 14 13:37:43 just go ahead and DO IT. Jul 14 13:37:50 :P Jul 14 13:42:39 haha Jul 14 13:43:12 can people seed the closed ed? Jul 14 13:44:44 can but takedown notices may appear? :P Jul 14 13:47:38 *cough* Tor *cough* Jul 14 13:47:59 Someone want to hand me some medicine I have a bad cough :P Jul 14 14:44:45 I'm having difficulties with uxlaunch on an Arm v6 dev board. How are people launching their x servers in meego? Jul 14 14:45:30 all of us has uxlaunch problems atm Jul 14 14:45:35 at least handset people Jul 14 14:45:45 uxlaunch is currently borked Jul 14 14:45:54 wait for the fix to hit upstream Jul 14 14:46:29 Hi Stskeeps - thanks for your work on getting the armv6 going - I'm successfully using some elements of your n8x0 port on my build Jul 14 14:46:37 ok - armv5 is fine, so :P Jul 14 14:47:41 What are you using for an x server if uxlaunch is out of action? Jul 14 14:48:00 it isn't an x-server Jul 14 14:50:36 Is it not possible to get x windows running on handset builds atm then? Jul 14 14:51:00 it does actually start x-windows, just no processes Jul 14 14:56:13 uxlaunch is a very thin forker of processes Jul 14 15:00:21 Okay - basically I'm failing to start any form of x windows from run level 3. Has anyone managed this or do I need to wait till the uxlaunch fix come upstream? Jul 14 15:00:56 i'd wait a day or two, it should appear soon as it's a bit annoying for handset images :) Jul 14 15:01:08 Thanks Jul 14 15:05:37 * CosmoHill growls and Ovi Maps' walk and drive Jul 14 15:07:35 hi there folks _o/ Jul 14 15:08:07 hello Jul 14 15:08:08 just have a question to a technical issue Jul 14 15:08:28 i am using a asus eeepc 100h Jul 14 15:08:33 *1000h Jul 14 15:08:46 and i am unable to use the internal bluetooth device Jul 14 15:09:15 in moblin everything was working fine. there was a switch in the bt manager to enable bluetooth Jul 14 15:09:28 but this switch is missing in meego Jul 14 15:09:41 i already mentioned this in the forums Jul 14 15:09:58 but this is about one month ago and nobody responded Jul 14 15:10:04 any ideas? Jul 14 15:10:30 i amjust asking before i open a new bug report ^^ Jul 14 15:14:09 * CosmoHill installs Nokia Maps 3 Jul 14 15:26:36 no one having an idea? Jul 14 15:32:26 g00fy: sorry, I don't Jul 14 15:32:43 kudos to nokia, I'm installing the PC suite and the installed GUI looks very nice Jul 14 18:19:39 ...with the wind Jul 14 18:21:33 DawnFoster: poing Jul 14 18:21:51 hey Myrtti! Jul 14 18:22:10 Myrtti: bi-directional ping? Jul 14 18:22:14 DawnFoster: I saw this in twitter, thought of you, retweeted it but want to make sure you see it: http://is.gd/drX0J Jul 14 18:23:00 geeky physics comparisons to real life are cool ♥ Jul 14 18:23:29 Myrtti, heh DawnFoster just got similar from twitter, i RTed manually and adder her nick ;) Jul 14 18:23:40 (for completely unrelated subject Jul 14 18:23:46 can anyone point me to the guide for dual-booting Meego on the N900? I can't find the wiki page :s Jul 14 18:24:13 sweet, thanks! I'm always up for geeky reading material :) Jul 14 18:24:54 PhonicUK: http://software.intel.com/en-us/blogs/2010/06/10/triple-boot-win7ubuntumee Jul 14 18:24:57 hope this helps Jul 14 18:24:59 also, I'm about three hours in on that cro-magnon book and so far it seems interesting. Well worth the 5.95+VAT I paid for the audiobook Jul 14 18:25:01 PhonicUK, the guide specified allows you to flash to external mmc, there is no real dual booting just yet because, well its not in place yet Jul 14 18:25:08 Cosmo, thats for on x86 hardware Jul 14 18:25:21 Myrtti - nice. I was just about to ask if you liked it. Jul 14 18:25:23 oh sorry, I was thinking of the EeePC 900 Jul 14 18:25:28 lol Jul 14 18:25:30 CosmoHill, !!! nice, we can triple boot ubuntu and windows 7 on n900 now :p Jul 14 18:25:43 i saw a good guide recently Jul 14 18:25:50 I'm a huge fan of reading about archeaology, anthropology, early man, etc. Jul 14 18:25:51 actually we can, someone managed to start win7 Jul 14 18:25:55 went through the steps of preparing the MicroSD card etc Jul 14 18:25:59 i think it took 14 hours or something to boot Jul 14 18:26:02 but it ran Jul 14 18:26:02 lcuk: with magic and an elevated blood achohole content, you can do anything Jul 14 18:26:14 DawnFoster, thats a misconception Jul 14 18:26:15 s/an/a/ Jul 14 18:26:18 CosmoHill meant: lcuk: with magic ad an elevated blood achohole content, you can do anything Jul 14 18:26:28 well that didn't work Jul 14 18:26:28 "early man never existed - we men like lie ins! Jul 14 18:26:48 If I was independently wealthy & didn't need to work, I'd go back & get a PhD in anthropology & spend all my time doing research Jul 14 18:27:03 DawnFoster: so am I :-) *sigh* still a bit bitter I didn't pass the entrance exam 11 years ago for general history Jul 14 18:27:15 instead I became a paid geek Jul 14 18:27:37 well, at least the pay is better :) Jul 14 18:27:40 is there a way I can get a PhD from Computing BSc? Jul 14 18:28:34 CosmoHill: don't bother, go into industry. want research experience? join a research project as a programmer while you study Jul 14 18:28:37 :P Jul 14 18:29:03 gaah i wanna use Meego :( Jul 14 18:29:09 but doctor sounds so much better when you're in a bar Jul 14 18:29:57 it's entirely possible (if drunk enough) to claim whatever Jul 14 18:29:57 :P Jul 14 18:30:51 also, in a bar everyone else except oddballs are drunk and they don't give rats ass if you're Dalai Lama Jul 14 18:31:46 * CosmoHill listens to a Podcast about Mozilla Firefox Moblie Jul 14 18:32:04 CosmoHill: Get a good job at a company with tuition reimbursement and go back to school part time while they pay for it :) Jul 14 18:32:09 * Stskeeps is still fairly happy he got turned down for phd studies admission Jul 14 18:32:22 I got an MBA for free that way after my CS degree Jul 14 18:32:31 meant i had to rethink life direction and well, now i'm doing this :) Jul 14 18:33:04 Stskeeps: lol Jul 14 18:33:23 which i'm inclined to think is more fun ;) Jul 14 18:33:28 I'm like learning so I seem to have an advantage over some people Jul 14 18:37:09 I swear some of my class mates are idiots who pay a lot of money for not turning up Jul 14 18:39:28 PhonicUK: what's stopping you? Jul 14 18:40:00 not wanting to trash my Maemo install :P Jul 14 18:40:14 wuss :) Jul 14 18:40:24 our install is non-destructive Jul 14 18:40:30 oh, wait.... no, that's sensible Jul 14 18:41:11 I really wanna just dual boot from my MicroSD Jul 14 18:45:27 hell yeah, chicken noodles! Jul 14 18:47:01 PhonicUK: It is in the wiki page. Just use the flasher to upload a one time boot kernel. Jul 14 18:47:43 PhonicUK: http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Releases/Daily and http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Install/MMC Jul 14 18:47:59 doesn't a one-time boot kernel only let me boot once? Jul 14 18:48:06 i.e. have to keep redoing it each reboot? Jul 14 18:48:13 Yes. Jul 14 18:48:41 There is no working kernel that can be shared between the both of them atm. Jul 14 18:48:52 ah i see Jul 14 18:49:08 i miss Mer :( Jul 14 18:49:31 Afaik there will be something later when kexec is working. Jul 14 18:49:37 cool Jul 14 18:50:45 hm... Stskeeps , when will ux for n900 be fixed? Jul 14 18:50:59 skyscraper: uxlaunch just made it into Trunk:Testing, so hopefully soon Jul 14 18:54:04 rebuilded my image a moment ago, but doesnt worked Jul 14 18:54:17 yes, things take time Jul 14 18:54:20 yup Jul 14 18:54:24 * CosmoHill needs a new computer for building Jul 14 18:54:47 * lbt just bought a 6-core CPU Jul 14 18:54:49 skyscraper: check your /etc/xdg/autostart files Jul 14 18:55:06 make sure *Show* fields use the right keys Jul 14 18:55:11 X-MEEGO-HS Jul 14 18:55:16 for handset Jul 14 18:55:28 * auke should buy lunch Jul 14 18:59:05 lbt: what are you going to use it for? Jul 14 18:59:19 thiago_home, it was a ps3 :p Jul 14 18:59:36 thiago_home: PC World say it's the minimum spec for MS word and facebook Jul 14 18:59:44 lbt, nice, which one ? Jul 14 19:02:00 CosmoHill: hex-core 12-thread with 8 GB? Jul 14 19:02:22 that would get you word, facebook and email Jul 14 19:02:33 maybe youtube too Jul 14 19:02:34 I see Jul 14 19:02:49 I should mention PC World in the UK is a computer shop Jul 14 19:02:54 thiago_home: you give me hardware envy fyi Jul 14 19:03:28 w00t_: Intel sent us a beefy machine and I have got to put it to good use Jul 14 19:03:32 as long as flash player runs smooth :) it's worth it Jul 14 19:03:54 I can watch youtube on my powerbook and do the ironing Jul 14 19:03:59 thiago_home: you can put it to better use -- by sending it to me Jul 14 19:04:00 :-) Jul 14 19:04:27 I've been playing with the other toy they sent us Jul 14 19:04:32 a netbook (the lenovo ideapad) Jul 14 19:04:36 ooo Jul 14 19:04:52 yum Jul 14 19:04:56 unfortunately it's a broadcom wireless, so I need to rebuild the driver after every upgrade Jul 14 19:05:03 no w00t_, zypper Jul 14 19:05:13 I've been running plasma-netbook since this morning and it works mostly fine Jul 14 19:05:34 Qt stutters sometimes though (qmlviewer's fps counter shows it all over the place) Jul 14 19:05:49 cos that be a power saving issue? Jul 14 19:06:11 like if windows 7 is on the battery and power saving mode the video will stutter Jul 14 19:06:35 I don't think so Jul 14 19:06:45 I think our OpenGL 1.x support is broken Jul 14 19:07:07 it is pretty much deprecated, isn't it? Jul 14 19:07:25 yeah, except that's what the Atoms have Jul 14 19:07:33 GMA3150 Jul 14 19:08:57 the weird thing is that there's some conflicting information Jul 14 19:09:22 I've seen somewhere said that it has OpenGL 2 on Linux... Jul 14 19:14:07 hmm Jul 14 19:14:16 moin lorn Jul 14 19:14:30 have them send us one of those U1's Jul 14 19:15:44 planning on committing connman plugin to 4.7 today, if the staging is clear Jul 14 19:16:09 which staging? Jul 14 19:16:15 oslo-1 Jul 14 19:16:17 o-s-1 was broken last I checked Jul 14 19:16:39 ya, it was yesterday Jul 14 19:16:48 two failures in tst_qdir (my fault) and two new ones Jul 14 19:18:00 I just need something with connman and 3g to test it Jul 14 19:18:34 well, gareth has two Aavas Jul 14 19:18:56 get a microSD, download the MeeGo handset 1.0.80 release, dd the image onto the SD and boot the phone Jul 14 19:19:00 and pray it boots Jul 14 19:19:51 as those are in short supply, I was hoping the n900 would be working enough.. heh. Jul 14 19:19:53 the netbooks don't have 3G Jul 14 19:20:07 I know, the netbooks are just cool Jul 14 19:20:14 but connman might be able to control wireless Jul 14 19:20:32 the lenovo I got because of the touchscreen Jul 14 19:20:48 its the 3g stuff I havent tested Jul 14 19:21:52 then the netbook won't do you much good Jul 14 19:22:02 check if you can get one nokia booklet 3g though Jul 14 19:22:11 would be nice to have meego running on that Jul 14 19:22:20 good point Jul 14 19:23:14 I suppose modem drivers might be an issue on that though Jul 14 19:23:24 I don't know... Jul 14 19:23:43 you can probably order a USB 3G modem though Jul 14 19:24:19 Huawei sells them like water in Brazil Jul 14 19:24:34 lpotter: what country are you in? Jul 14 19:25:00 I live in crickeymateland Jul 14 19:26:21 I don't think that conveys useful information :-) Jul 14 19:27:19 ok.. edgeoftheoutback Jul 14 19:31:00 thiago_home: crikeyland does convey useful information Jul 14 19:31:07 to those who speak the same lingo Jul 14 19:31:09 ;) Jul 14 19:31:44 I'll put down "far far away" Jul 14 19:31:57 Vodafone do 3G iirc Jul 14 19:39:17 thiago_home: http://openattitude.com/2010/01/29/nokias-booklet-3g-hates-linux/ Jul 14 19:39:35 I've seen it running Jul 14 19:39:52 wasn't fine, but was running Jul 14 19:40:16 no meeting tonight? Jul 14 19:40:56 lbt: postponed till August due to holiday season up north Jul 14 19:44:17 should i be worried i had forgotten about TSG meetings for a moment there? :P Jul 14 19:44:54 GMAxxx = Devil spawn Jul 14 19:45:13 Stskeeps: they add such value... Jul 14 19:45:15 Imagetech's Jul 14 19:51:34 Stskeeps: http://wiki.meego.com/BOSS/Presentation Jul 14 19:51:49 NokiaOBS? Jul 14 19:52:11 kinda our team name ... Jul 14 19:52:18 I suggested "Bob" Jul 14 19:52:30 Redshirts? Jul 14 19:52:30 :P Jul 14 19:52:37 I hope not ;) Jul 14 19:53:11 hobnobs Jul 14 19:53:31 McVities Jul 14 20:07:39 X-Fade: \o/ Jul 14 20:08:07 new prjconf ... needs to preinstall libblkid in VMs Jul 14 20:08:43 also something spooky wrt lua ... it preinstall's liblua which isn't in the repo mirror AFAICS Jul 14 20:12:58 X-Fade: and root = "/dev/hda1 rw" not root = "/dev/hda1 ro" in the xen.conf Jul 14 20:14:19 spam Jul 14 20:15:47 just got tricked by MohammadAG into using /wallchan xD Jul 14 20:31:12 what's /wallchan ? Jul 14 20:35:09 * lbt slaps CosmoHill Jul 14 20:35:32 Community OBS is actually working now... Jul 14 20:35:48 ow Jul 14 21:21:25 hello, is there an app on meego to use IRC? can't seem 2 find it Jul 14 21:21:44 I know there is one but not that it's called Jul 14 21:23:02 CosmoHill: TX Jul 14 21:23:15 basically, keep looking, you'll find it sooner or later Jul 14 21:24:10 also, if i install an app, how to start it when it does not show in applist? Jul 14 21:26:56 Installier: meegotouch-systemui ##################### [346/384] /bin/cp: Aufruf von stat für „/usr/share/themes/base/meegotouch/sysuid/images/flat_drop_big_lock.png“ nicht möglich: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden warning: %post(meegotouch-systemui-0.16.6-1.1.armv7l) scriptlet failed, exit status 1 Jul 14 21:27:12 is that a problem? Jul 14 21:49:17 lbt: ping Jul 14 22:36:47 hello everyone, hello DawnFoster :) Jul 14 22:37:08