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Jul 17 08:03:30 <zhh> 这里能说中文吗
Jul 17 08:03:55 <zhh> Can I say chinese?
Jul 17 08:03:55 <Stskeeps> english plese
Jul 17 08:04:15 <odin_> you can but I doubt anyone will understand, sorry... it looks pretty though
Jul 17 08:04:20 <zhh> Where can say chinese?
Jul 17 08:05:09 <odin_> maybe try using google translate ?  I don't think there is any non-english meego channel
Jul 17 08:05:10 <zhh> I'm a new
Jul 17 08:05:43 <zhh> Thanks
Jul 17 09:59:17 <Stskeeps> morn lbt
Jul 17 09:59:29 <lbt> hi
Jul 17 10:00:35 <lbt> got a new mboard and my 6-core CPU earlier in the week... so about to transplant my machine
Jul 17 10:00:57 <lbt> thanks to the LinuxGenuineAdvantage that should be a no-brainer ;)
Jul 17 10:02:20 <Stskeeps> hehe, cool
Jul 17 10:02:43 <Stskeeps> i am still wondering what to replace my analogue tv and media centre machine with
Jul 17 10:03:10 * lbt loves MythTV
Jul 17 10:03:36 <lbt> if you can dedicate a server to it it's forgettable
Jul 17 10:03:52 <Stskeeps> i'm fairly happy with boxee, cos of the dubbed tv here
Jul 17 10:04:16 <lbt> *nod*
Jul 17 10:04:23 <lbt> tend not to think of that kind of issue
Jul 17 10:04:42 <Stskeeps> we have considered to get a sat dish though
Jul 17 10:05:24 <lbt> DVB cards are easy in EU I think
Jul 17 10:11:30 <lbt> bbl8r .... I hope
Jul 17 14:32:04 <MasterMatan> Hi, how i can sell (or for free) my app for smartphone meego?
Jul 17 14:32:19 <MasterMatan> How and where
Jul 17 14:32:40 <GAN900> MasterMatan, first, there's no commercial deployed MeeGo Handset yet.
Jul 17 14:33:03 <MasterMatan> Ok, thx
Jul 17 14:33:07 <GAN900> Second, where there are, it's going to depend on who's selling the device.
Jul 17 14:33:17 <GAN900> Nokia will have Ovi
Jul 17 14:33:17 <dragonlinux> MasterMatan, third, give it to me and i will do the rest of marketing part, lmao
Jul 17 14:33:27 <GAN900> LG will have whatever they'll have
Jul 17 14:33:35 <GAN900> Samsung will have their own thing
Jul 17 14:33:53 <RST38h> I certainly hope you will still be able to distribute Meego software outside the so called "ecosystem"
Jul 17 14:33:58 <GAN900> So it'll be wonderfully simple to deploy a commercial application across multiple vendors.
Jul 17 14:34:10 <MasterMatan> i want only know what i can do with my apps
Jul 17 14:34:25 <MasterMatan> So now i know
Jul 17 14:34:36 <RST38h> Good!
Jul 17 14:34:52 <MasterMatan> Thx for help
Jul 17 14:37:54 <MasterMatan> bye
Jul 17 15:23:05 <ChildOfGod> Could someone share with me his/her meego-netbook-ux hacking workflow? I was trying to build individual modules from http://meego.gitorious.org/meego-netbook-ux but it was hellishly difficult.
Jul 17 15:23:18 <ChildOfGod> I was on Ubuntu. Does being on Fedora help?
Jul 17 15:24:02 <Stskeeps> a meego chroot usually works or your own obs
Jul 17 15:25:48 <ChildOfGod> Stskeeps: ok so inside the meego chroot i can build the modules and hack/debug, right? I am interested in modifying the netbook-ux itself.
Jul 17 15:26:07 <Stskeeps> you can do that with that too you know
Jul 17 15:26:50 <ChildOfGod> Stskeeps: so all the dependencies it looks for is already there in the chroot?
Jul 17 15:27:06 <Stskeeps> most likely, or you can install them
Jul 17 15:27:08 <Stskeeps> there's a netbook SDK
Jul 17 15:27:36 <ChildOfGod> Stskeeps: ya, i chroot into it and type start-meego to bring up the xephyr screen
Jul 17 15:27:55 <ChildOfGod> that is called the sdk as well
Jul 17 15:28:05 <Stskeeps> right - same code that's running in the netbook ux
Jul 17 15:28:05 <ChildOfGod> i mean the folder is named meego-sdk-something
Jul 17 15:28:14 <Stskeeps> in that chroot you can install your own version for instance
Jul 17 15:28:17 <ChildOfGod> Stskeeps: ok cool. So what about the obs?
Jul 17 15:28:52 <Stskeeps> that's for if you want to do cleaner compiles. you can also do things with the 'build' tool
Jul 17 15:29:06 <Stskeeps> if the procedures aren't described well enough in documentation, mail about it to meego-sdk
Jul 17 15:30:02 <ChildOfGod> Stskeeps: well i would definitely say that the documentation is very confusing and spread here and there
Jul 17 15:31:28 <Stskeeps> mail about your experiences as a potential contributor, best way to let them know
Jul 17 15:31:51 <ChildOfGod> Stskeeps: ya sure.
Jul 17 16:36:28 <VDVsx> Stskeeps, btw, how the CfP for the meego conference is going ? :)
Jul 17 16:59:02 <Stskeeps> VDVsx: i'm waiting for the system for papers to be up, which someone is doing
Jul 17 16:59:11 <Stskeeps> cfp should be fairly finalized
Jul 17 16:59:38 <CosmoHill> Hamster 8 - 73 Gravity
Jul 17 16:59:51 <Stskeeps> http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_Conference_2010/DraftCFP -> VDVsx
Jul 17 17:02:22 <VDVsx> Stskeeps, August 23 is a bit early imo, since the conference is only in Nov
Jul 17 17:03:32 <Stskeeps> VDVsx: there's two rounds, one for regular presentations and one for lightning talks, i believe
Jul 17 17:04:45 <Stskeeps> VDVsx: the reasoning is that 1 1/2 month before conference final program is done, allowing for proper sponsorship and trip organisation
Jul 17 17:05:15 <Stskeeps> as well as a draft program two months before, so people can decide if they want to go
Jul 17 17:06:26 <VDVsx> Stskeeps, true lets see if we don't face the same situation as last year, with a lot of late submissions :)
Jul 17 17:07:12 <Stskeeps> VDVsx: have tried to counter that with the early reveal, but yeah, we did discuss that too
Jul 17 17:07:37 <Stskeeps> the idea is also to avoid the dead july where no marketing would approve anything anyway :P
Jul 17 17:08:57 <Stskeeps> also, many topics are actually excellently covered by lightning talks :P
Jul 17 17:09:00 <odin_> is the MeeGo Ireland Nov bash require registration (to attendees) and/or free to turn up at ?
Jul 17 17:09:53 <odin_> ah found a half written Wiki entry
Jul 17 17:10:11 <Stskeeps> odin_: it is free after registration, to my knowledge - it is simply to avoid fire authorities problems and such
Jul 17 17:10:19 <Stskeeps> and limit of rooms/chairs, etc
Jul 17 17:18:28 <odin_> looks like the hotels are already booked (well the ones in the wiki)
Jul 17 17:31:06 * CosmoHill remembers that he needs a IDE hard drive for a computer by tomorrow
Jul 17 17:37:36 <Stskeeps> odin_: well, rooms are being held for sponsored participants i guess and such
Jul 17 17:37:37 <lbt> hi mord
Jul 17 17:37:38 <Stskeeps> on the ones mentioned
Jul 17 17:39:29 <odin_> registrations open sometime before 1st Aug
Jul 17 18:15:38 <Jaffa> Stskeeps: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODQxOA mentions EMGD, but I can't work out if it's an old story published recently or surprisingly new content.
Jul 17 18:15:44 <Jaffa> Stskeeps: I should probably read it better ;-)
Jul 17 18:57:01 <Stskeeps> Jaffa: blown out of proporitions, imho
Jul 17 18:57:26 <Stskeeps> imgtec drivers will be open kernel, closed libs on all platforms, no matter intel or arm
Jul 17 19:47:03 <Jaffa> Stskeeps: Indeed; random blog blows things out of proportion and it makes /. News at 11 ;-)
Jul 17 20:11:18 <CosmoHill> Stskeeps: I got made a IRCop on a unrealircd server :D
Jul 17 20:13:56 <Stskeeps> CosmoHill: my condolences
Jul 17 20:14:04 <CosmoHill> :D
Jul 17 20:47:36 <CosmoHill> Stskeeps: we got two of the kids in the oper channel and gave them hops
Jul 17 20:47:46 <CosmoHill> it's like giving monkey's knifes
Jul 17 22:45:42 <daniel__> hi all, has anybody successfully run the meego desktop on opensuse 11.3 please?
Jul 17 22:45:59 <ScottishDuck> ...why
Jul 17 22:47:02 <daniel__> i tried to do so, and failed
Jul 17 23:07:46 <CosmoHill> brb
Jul 18 00:07:06 <Cosmo[PB]> cyas
Jul 18 02:38:36 <sakirious> Anyone have experience with getting a touchscreen fully functioning?
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